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Oriana Fallaci, RIP, the Pope, and a Sad Age
Works and Days ^ | September 16, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/17/2006 4:09:32 PM PDT by TaxachusettsMan

Benedict XVI in a disastrous display of public sensitivity, makes the point that Christianity, in its evolution, has learned to forsake violence and defend its faith through appeals to reason—and thus can offer its own experience in the current crisis of Islam.

By quoting from the emperor rhetorician Manuel Paleologus . . . the Pope failed to grasp that under the tenets of radical Islam,

context means little,

intent nothing,

learning less than zero.

If a sentence, indeed a mere phrase can be taken out of context, twisted, manipulated to show an absence of deference to Islam, furor ensues, death threats follow, assassins load their belts—even as the New York Times issues its sanctimonious apologies in the hope that the crocodile will eat them last.

We learned the now familiar rage

with the Danish cartoons,

Theo Van Gogh,

the false flushed Koran story,

the forced change of “Operation Infinite Justice” to “Enduring Freedom”,

the constant charges of “Islamaphobia”,

and a horde of other false grievances that so shook the West, traumatized in fear of having its skyscrapers, planes, trains, buses, nightclubs, and synagogues blown apart or its oil cut off.

So, yes, we know the asymmetrical rules:

a state run-paper in Cairo or the West Bank,

a lunatic Iranian mullah,

a grand mufti from this or that mosque,

can all rail about infidels, “pigs and apes”, in language reminiscent of the Third Reich—and meet with approval in the Middle East and silence in the West.

But for a Westerner, a Tony Blair, George Bush, or Pope Benedict to even hint that something has gone terribly wrong with modern Islam, is to endure immediate furor and worse.

In short, no modern ideology, no religious sect of the present age demands so much of others, so little of itself.

(Excerpt) Read more at victordavishanson.pajamasmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; History; Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi

1 posted on 09/17/2006 4:09:34 PM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I really really enjoyed the book "The Rage and The Pride" by Oriana Fallaci. You can get it online from various book sellers. GREAT book! You can read it in an afternoon. In fact, you can't put it down.


2 posted on 09/17/2006 4:18:51 PM PDT by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: buffyt

I like VDH, but this essay will not have the reach, scope, or impact of what the Pope said this week.


3 posted on 09/17/2006 4:49:32 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I think this Hanson guy may be something of a moron. He wrote: "context means little, intent nothing, learning less than zero"

If he had read what the pope wrote he would know that that was exactly what Pope Benedict XVI was talking about at that point. I guess he didn't even read the document?


4 posted on 09/17/2006 4:51:17 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
And McCain imagines that these beasty-minded people are going to honor the Geneva Convention when it comes to our soldiers?

Self-serving does not begin to describe McCain. . .

I hope Repubs send him to political oblivion; when push, finally comes to shove. . .

5 posted on 09/17/2006 5:12:39 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
In short, no modern ideology, no religious sect of the present age demands so much of others, so little of itself.

He forgot the idiology of American Liberalism. . .

6 posted on 09/17/2006 5:30:31 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .)
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To: vladimir998

VDH meant that these things don't mean anything to the Islamists. VDH is one of the brightest thinkers out there.


7 posted on 09/17/2006 5:31:34 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo; TaxachusettsMan; vladimir998
VDH is one of the brightest thinkers out there.

I was all set to be confused and upset that VDH would actually consider that the Pope 'failed to grasp' the possibility that his quote of the Emperor would be pulled out of context. Until I got to the last line of his essay:

And dear Pope: clarify, contextualize, express sorrow over the wrong interpretation of your remarks, but please don’t apologize for the Truth—not now, not ever.

8 posted on 09/17/2006 7:32:44 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: vladimir998
"This Hanson guy...something of a moron"
Do you have any idea who he is, what he has written, how you might compare to this " moron"?
Next time you post, try going to a web address that is called " google", and enter the topic about which you lack information. Then read a bit before you make yourself look foolish.
9 posted on 09/18/2006 4:32:36 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: vladimir998

"context means little, intent nothing, learning less than zero"

VDH was refering to Islam never grasping it.


10 posted on 09/18/2006 5:51:45 AM PDT by AliVeritas (The road to hell is paved with bishops - St. Athanasis)
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I have NO sympathy for Ratzinger (as Oriana preferred to call him as do I). For an individual who during the controversy of the Danish muzzie cartoons said that people (the cartoon creators) "cannot entail the right to offend the religious sentiment of believers.". Well guess he should have listened to his OWN advise. And further, IMHO, it's BS for him to say that just b/c he quoted the emperor didn't mean that he agreed w/ him. Uhmmmm????? Let me see, what is SOP for when someone quotes another but DISAGREES w/ the statements of the other - Let me think - thinking - thinking - thinking - OH YEAH, they USUALLY SAY THEY DISAGREE W/ THE STATEMENTS or GIVE COUNTER-ARGUMENTS to the statements. So for him to say NOW that he doesn't agree w/ the emperor seems to me to be just CYA in hindsight on his part.

And now the terrorists muzzies that are PO'd about his remarks are providing proof of the words of the Byzantine Emperor by attacking churches, nuns & so on incl the "mujahideen's army" movement threatening the life of Ratzinger himself.

As Paige Hopkins & others have pointed out (& even Barbara Walters, I hear)...when the leader of iran threatens to "wipe Israel off the face of the Earth" you didn't see supporters of Israel nor the Jews themselves bombing mosques & killing islamic workers OVER WORDS spoken by iran...nor did you hear most of the same muzzie & non-muzzie folks who are now complaining about Ratzinger's speech content making the same "dust-up" over the iranian comments then either.

cricket, McCain & his ilk keep IGNORING the FACT that 99.999999999999% (if not all) of the "detainees" are NOT REPEAT NOT covered by the GC b/c they fall into the category of "un-uniformed" hostiles. IMHO, he is still just PO'd that the torture he went thru got him to sign a CONFESSION.


11 posted on 09/18/2006 1:58:40 PM PDT by CommonSense1stOverParty (Oriana's pen was like Thor's Hammer re pointing out islamofascism.)
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