Why the world wants believers to shut up — and why we mustn't

Biblical Christianity bibchr.blogspot.com ^ | Thursday, November 25, 2004 | Dan Phillips

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Be sure to read the rest of it here. There are wise and godly men left in the world. I needed this encouragement.

[Condor 63]

If you wrote that - kudos.

Interesting and thought provoking.

Long have I ruminated on what appears to be an obvious fact. For many of us Christians we consider it our duty to witness yet this act of witnessing is frequently what stirs up the nastiest form of hate against Christians and fuels much of the attempt to remove Christian thought from the public square.

That and a distaste of anything decent and moral which I have occasionally observed in some far leftists.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I didn't write it. I could have worked for the rest of my life and never produced such eloquence and organization. Um...er, no....it's what I was going to write except he beat me to it.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

---Told to shut up, we must respond, "Thanks for the suggestion, but no." ----

Exactly.

[Condor 63]

Um...er, no....it's what I was going to write except he beat me to it.

Well, let me put it another way. IMO no religious person worth his or her salt has never at least pondered it.

I would also go so far as to say any religious person that answers the call to "witness" should at least stop long enough to seriously think about what it means, the best way to do it and what possible effect good or bad it has on the religion in question and people both saved and unsaved.

It is a very interesting topic - and one that I've seen precious few attempt to tackle.

[Quix]

Great truths.

Thanks.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

---Told to shut up, we must respond, "Thanks for the suggestion, but no." ----

Yeah, I'm glad you pulled that out. The calm in that is so perfect.

[Lee N. Field]

There are wise and godly men left in the world.

He's also a denizen of Free Republic.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Really? That's cool.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Ping!

Thought you all might enjoy this article.

[oyez]

bfl

[HoosierHawk]

I needed this encouragement.

Me too. Many thanks for the ping.

[TommyDale]

Thanks!

[xcamel]

Thanks..

[Tax-chick]

This is from our own BibChr, isn't it?

(Howya, FRiend!)

[JockoManning]

Thank you.

Marker for self to read later.

[BibChr]

Thanks. Yep, that's-a me. Now invading the internet from two directions. (Well, three, counting FR!)

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG
Pyromaniacs

[.30Carbine]

The article brings together appropriate teachings of God that apply in the same direction. I'm so glad it was posted here, and grateful to read it at your blog, Dan. Good work, and thank you!

I was in Matthew 24 this morning, specifically verses 8 and 9. From my notes, here is a reminder that I think walked out in front of your thesis in '04, but now walks right beside us:

Deception...wars and rumor of wars...
nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom...
famines, pestilences, and earthquakes...

"All these are the beginning of sorrows (birth pangs).

"Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and
YOU WILL BE HATED BY ALL NATIONS for My Name's sake."

[TomSmedley]

Excellent read. For example:

And here's the problem: that facile bifurcation. Why is it an either-or? When we preserve a Christian framework, are we not building the sort of society that will afford us the greatest opportunities for preaching Christ? Besides, who is advocating anything like "Repeal Row v. Wade, and you will go to Heaven!"?

echos something I just posted in another forum:

The Helenic culture envisioned an unbridgeable gap between "spiritual" and "physical" realities. The Berlin wall in modern man's mind is the barrier between "public" (Caesar's realm) and "private" (one's internal "universe").

However, the term "Lord" is not another synonym for "guru" or "personal spiritual advisor" (like an invisible Madam Rose the palm reader!). No, the last time I checked, "Lord" was a political term, indicating authority over all creation, visible and invisible.

Since the guy I was responding to is a premillenial pietist, I had to also add the following choice words:

I know, I know, you're convinced that God is holding His cards, and throwing us into the meatgrinder of battles He intends for us to lose, as our government did in Vietnam. You're convinced that God has already conceded the public sphere to the enemy.

But not all faithful believers share your unshakeable faith in the futility of the Gospel, when it escapes the narrow gaol of our own "heart."

[100-Fold_Return]

Question: Which act of terror will the mythical "evangelical Christian" "militia" perform before Mrs. Clinton inauguration in 2008?

You got the I.Q., 4cj, but someone else has the memory LOL!