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FIRE LIKE WE'VE NOT SEEN BEFORE [PENTECOSTAL CHARISMATIC CAUCUS--PROPH 4 PRAYER & SOUL SEARCHING]
OPENHEAVEN.COM DIGEST ^ | 27 DEC 2006 | RON MCGATLIN

Posted on 01/07/2007 1:56:59 PM PST by Quix

NOTE: BOLD & COLOR EMPHASES by Quix

OpenHeaven.com Digest December 27, 2006

Ron McGatlin

Dec 27 2006 07:07PM

Published By Ron & Barbara McGatlin OpenHeaven.com

In This Edition
1. FIRE LIKE WE’VE NOT SEEN BEFORE
2. "A Year Like None Other!"
3. "The Day Is Coming"
4. Kingdom Growth Guides Added
5. TOP NEWS Headlines

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1. FIRE LIKE WE’VE NOT SEEN BEFORE

Jesus Baptizes With The Holy Spirit & Fire

By Ron McGatlin

"You have never yet seen the fullness of outpouring of My fire. You have seen outpourings of My Spirit and My love"

I tremble and tears fill my eyes as I hear these words. Anticipation and deep emotional excitement swell within my heart. Suddenly desire goes far beyond hunger. My spirit, soul, and body scream with intense yearning. I am again touched by the Fire of God. I am overcome in the glory of His holiness.

Eye hath not yet seen what God has prepared for those who love Him.

But by His Spirit, He is today speaking of a pouring out of HOLY FIRE as never before seen on earth. At Pentecost a tiny group of people were baptized in SPIRIT and FIRE and the world was impacted forever. The Pentecost experience was a beginning, a seed, not the fullness of the HOLY FIRE of God to be poured out upon millions.

Christ returned in the Spirit to be spread across the world in the lives of those who walk in the Spirit. Christ Jesus is alive today in the lives of those who are in Him and in whom He dwells by the HOLY Spirit of God. Christ Jesus is the source of the Spirit and Fire baptism coming upon the world. We have grasped the experience of the Spirit and we will come to identify with and be fully baptized in the FIRE OF HOLINESS.

As you read what is being said here, don't allow your religious mind to take you back to hearing any weak segmented and departmentalized teachings that you may have had in the past regarding baptism and Holy Spirit. Only those who are losing their religious minds will hear the reality of what God is doing in our day. God is doing a far greater thing than the wonderful revivals and the renewals of recent decades. He is about an even greater work than the fire of revival of the past centuries.

The works prophesied by John the Baptist are now before us and not far ahead.

Luke 3:16-17: John answered, saying to all, "I indeed baptize you with water; but One mightier than I is coming, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to loose. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire."

This is not just about your personal experience or your personal need. John was speaking to a group standing before Him and prophetically to the world to come.

John's message was a baptism of repentance.

Luke 3:3-9: And he went into all the region around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, as it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, saying: "The voice of one crying in the wilderness: 'Prepare the way of the LORD; Make His paths straight.

Every valley shall be filled And every mountain and hill brought low; The crooked places shall be made straight And the rough ways smooth; And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.'"

Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire."

THE OUTPOURING OF HOLY FIRE

The major revivals of the past have all at some point came to an end because the fire that brought the work was lifted. Much speculation has been offered as to why the fire lifted and probably there are several facets of truth involved. However, it is becoming apparent that these revival, renewals, and outpourings were steps in a process toward the fullness of the kingdom revival filling the earth with the glory of God.

Man eventually became the focus of past revivals. This led to the humanization of the work of God. Indeed there is need for man to be transformed, but the need of man is a secondary thing and has never been the primary focus of God in the outpouring of the HOLY Spirit and fire in revival. The salvation of man is a means to the glory of God and the rule of God on earth as it is in heaven. God is not a means for the goal of the happiness of man.

Some of the older past revivals carried a major message theme of be saved so you can go to heaven and not SUFFER in hell. The person's motivation for repenting was sometimes purely man-centered from a desire to not suffer and to be happy. There was nothing about God in this motivation, and it was all about man's desire to not suffer.

This humanistic gospel has evolved through time into things like give to receive, or give your life so others won't suffer, come to God so you can be happy and prosperous, and God wants to make you rich. All of these things may happen when people truly come to God, but they are not the primary purpose of God and the reason for the cross and redemption of man.

And it gets worse. Eventually this mis-focused humanistic gospel can mutate into the purely human focused false gospel of universal reconciliation and other forms of new age, feel-good perversions. Eventually a spirit of pleasure rules and every sordid evil immoral pleasure can become acceptable in the "church." Shallow repentance without change, form without fire, and "church" without holiness can become the norm.

This kind of widespread belief in the "church" does little or nothing to restrain evil and even spawns ungodly and immoral culture into the world. The worst part of all this is that revival is squelched and prevented from coming in and through the "church." Even though there may be cries coming forth for revival, a wide-spread revival of holiness and the holy fire of God is restrained from coming and remaining under the canopy of this man-centered church tied to worldly culture.

As best I remember the story, a godly man from China was once asked about his trip to America. What impressed you most about the church in America? To which he replied, I am amazed at what they have been able to accomplish without God.

The outpouring of the Holy Spirit and fire of holiness from God must come outside the man-focused church to a God-focused people.

Revival can come to those who seek to serve God just because He is worthy to be served. He is God Almighty, Who created all that exist. He is glorious. He is holy, holy, holy and above all that exist. He is the God Who gave His only begotten Son to redeem all that was lost. He is the God Who is love, Who is all powerful, Who is jealous, Who is the King of kings and Lord of lords. Lay down your life to serve Him because He is worthy whether you receive anything or not, whether you are healed or not or have riches or not. Serve Him because of Who He is and seek to glorify Him in all the earth. We are made for God, He is not made for us. He is worthy of the sacrifice of our lives as living sacrifices unto Him.

The prayer of a few righteous can allow God to send His fire in a spot.

It has been clearly evidenced through past revivals that the prayer of a few HOLY people who are led of the Spirit can cause the fire of God to come down in a spot on earth. Holy people are those who continuously walk in the Spirit. Holiness comes from being saturated (baptized) in the HOLY Spirit and fire. Jesus is the baptizer and lives in those who have given their lives to Him.

The prayers of an army of God's pure hearted people baptized in the Holy Spirit and fire and planted in many spots across a nation can allow God's fire to come down and draw many to Jesus, baptizing them in the Holy Spirit and Fire. This can spread into that nation as the fire of God redeems what is redeemable and removes what is unredeemable. God will have a holy people and holy nations.

Holy fire comes to the people of God who yet have impurities as chastening and comes as destruction to the wicked who will not turn to God and seek His kingdom and His righteousness above all else.

The coming kingdom revival will be different from past outpourings, because it will be all about God and His glory and His kingdom and not about me or you.

God alone is worthy.

Rev 4:11 "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created."

Rev 5:9-13: And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth."

Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: "Worthy is the Lamb who was slain To receive power and riches and wisdom, And strength and honor and glory and blessing!"

And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: "Blessing and honor and glory and power Be to Him who sits on the throne, And to the Lamb, forever and ever!"

Without Christ we are not worthy of the love of God. We are not worthy of the costly salvation He has provided. In our sinful fallen state apart from Christ, we are worthy of eternal separation from God Who is holy and worthy of all praise and honor. As we are in Christ and He in us by the Holy Spirit we are worthy to carry the fire of God into the world.

Just because the cross happened and just because the resurrection took place does not mean that we are redeemed and carriers of the fire. There is only two ways to live in life on this earth. One is to walk by the flesh and fulfill the lust of the flesh. The other is to walk in the Spirit and not fulfill the lust of the flesh but fulfill the divine will and purpose of God in the world. Those without Christ have only one choice and that is to walk in the flesh. Those in Christ have two choices. If we are not walking in the Spirit we are not in the Spirit and will fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

The holy fire that brings revival will only come in a people seeking God with their whole hearts and who walk in the Spirit. Many, if not most, "church" people have disqualified themselves from revival fire. They have simply not become living sacrifices to God and have been conformed to this world. Ignoring all God is and all God has done, they continue in their comfortable way of conformity to the world. As far as the coming revival fire of holiness this kind of life is as chaff that will be burned with unquenchable fire.

He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire."

Rom 12:1-2: I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

1 Cor 6:9-11: Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Gal 6:7-8: Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

"You have never yet seen the fullness of outpouring of My fire."

He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

It is at hand.

Ron McGatlin

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I believe that this is a true prophecy with much fruitful food for prayerful pondering and Spirit-led discussion encouraging and exhorting one another toward such a day . . . redeeming the time . . . particularly if other predictions of terrorist nukes in places like LA etc. are going to come to pass this year as some believe.

May we all search our hearts and ask God what He would have us do to prepare for such a baptism of fire.

Note, this is for an in-house discussion amongst the Pentecostal/Charismatic caucus.

1 posted on 01/07/2007 1:57:03 PM PST by Quix
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To: Quix

I'm having trouble following it... can you summarize the prohpecy for me?


2 posted on 01/07/2007 2:01:30 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; airborne; American in Israel; AnimalLover; auggy; backhoe; backslacker; Baraonda; ...

ENDTIMES; PROPHECY; DREAMS; VISIONS PING LIST PING FOR THE PENTECOSTAL/CHARISMATIC IN-HOUSE PRAYER, MEDITATION, ENCOURAGEMENT, EXHORTATION, DISCUSSION CAUCUS THREAD

Please let me know if you want on or off this ping list.

Blessings,


3 posted on 01/07/2007 2:05:18 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
Note, this is for an in-house discussion amongst the Pentecostal/Charismatic caucus.

In other words, if you're here to fight or insult, leave now.

If you are here to discuss in the spirit of love, discuss.

Have I got that right, Quix?

:-)

4 posted on 01/07/2007 2:09:53 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Rodney King
My very paraphrased summary:

GET READY! BRACE YOURSELVES! CLEAN UP YOUR ACT!

God is going to soonish enter the world as never before in a purifying refiner's fire of holiness and Holy Spirit power and might. Whatever can be shaken will be shaken. Whatever's chaff in a believer's life [and likely elsewhere] will be vulnerable to being incinerated.

This life is not about comforts and parties for man's fleshly pleasures. It's about God's Glory. HE WILL BE GLORIFIED IN AND THROUGH US according TO HIS GOOD PLEASURE AND PRIORITIES, not our own.

SURRENDER ALL. There is no other option. Whatever you thought was your "all" is likely to be shown to be anemic. Surrender your all as best you can and ask God to take the rest regardless of how much of a death grip your flesh tries to maintain on whatever it is.

Determine to will God's will, Oh, Lord. Make that a confession and a desire. Determine to then DO God's will as He enables.

Buckle your seat belts. The "G" [vs E] ticket ride is about to begin.

I also believe the prophecy hints at grand things God is going to do in behalf of His Kingdom and His saints in the coming months and years. The light will get lighter and the dark, darker. But living and walking in His light with Him will cost us our all. We will look back and see it was all worthless anyway.

As Jim Elliott said--he is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

Quix commentary on his summary:

God loves to give good gifts to His kids. He's even happy to give us some comforts AS LONG AS THEY DON'T DETRACT FROM OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

Personally, I believe that even requiring that HIS GLORY BE UPPERMOST is for the benefit of us and all creation. HE WILL NOT HAVE REBELLION IN HEAVEN AGAIN. I don't believe He is some egomaniacal super tyrant NEEDING adoration etc. HIS GLORY AND OUR ADORATION are in our best interests and in the best interests of all creation. Just imho.

5 posted on 01/07/2007 2:15:37 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

thanks.


6 posted on 01/07/2007 2:18:02 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: fanfan

Yes. That's my understanding of the forum's rules on such threads.

I earnestly work to post such within the RM's guidelines and SOMETIMES at the RM's specific exhortation and counsel.

Of course, I first endeavor to follow Holy Spirit's leading on such while sometimes checking with the RM for discernment and a check on my own sense of such things.


7 posted on 01/07/2007 2:18:04 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Rodney King

De nada;
Bu Xie;
You're welcome.


8 posted on 01/07/2007 2:18:53 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!!!


9 posted on 01/07/2007 2:21:33 PM PST by navygal (Numbers 6:24-26)
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To: navygal

Thanks for saying so.

Any particular confirmation in your spirit or word from The Lord to you as you read it?


10 posted on 01/07/2007 2:25:34 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

A FREEPER has informed me that this has already begun to happen in his very traditional congregation/denomination.

I'm asking him to consider posting about what's happened and the results.


11 posted on 01/07/2007 2:47:16 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

All I know is that this is the second time that I have read/heard something like this.


12 posted on 01/07/2007 4:21:44 PM PST by navygal (Numbers 6:24-26)
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To: navygal

Ahhh. Thanks.

I've been hearing such for some time, too.

What did you think of the LA FREEPMAIL? Sure hope not but have also been convinced myself that that is on the schedule.


13 posted on 01/07/2007 4:30:12 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

In this day and age, I can see something like that happening. I do think it is an interesting post.


14 posted on 01/07/2007 4:36:57 PM PST by navygal (Numbers 6:24-26)
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To: navygal

The idea that the puppet masters are likely in cahoots with terrorists is certainly an issue worth prayer.

But mostly . . . that we and our loved ones must be walking closer and closer to God. It's never been really optional for those seeking life. It will become less so, imho.

But that fellow's dream was particularly vivid and specific, it seems to me. Very intense.

Is the fiery furnace experience slated to be part of God's Holy Spirit fire or are they different things?


15 posted on 01/07/2007 4:41:51 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

Is the fiery furnace experience slated to be part of God's Holy Spirit fire or are they different things?

I hope I understand this correctly, we need to be on fire for God. I believe it to be a part of God's Holy Spirit. God let's us go through trials and tribulations (refining). Remember the potter and the clay.


16 posted on 01/07/2007 5:56:14 PM PST by navygal (Numbers 6:24-26)
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To: Quix

I reread it again, I believe it to be apart of God's Holy Spirit.


17 posted on 01/07/2007 6:03:25 PM PST by navygal (Numbers 6:24-26)
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To: navygal

I think you're right.

But after the baptism WITH fire, I bet we go through trials and tribulations a LOT easier.


18 posted on 01/07/2007 6:20:54 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: navygal

But after the baptism WITH fire, I bet we go through trials and tribulations a LOT easier.

Perhaps like the 500 lb canary saying

HERE, KITTY, KITTY . . .


19 posted on 01/07/2007 6:21:23 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

wow. I read the article and something I've never experienced before is happening. I'm speaking aloud in Bible Code. xym 231rt w45rw xxmz. Hallelujah. :-)


20 posted on 01/07/2007 6:38:35 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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