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The Early Church Fathers on Justification - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
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Posted on 02/14/2007 2:14:45 PM PST by NYer

The Early Church Fathers believed we are justified by faith and works. The works in question are not accomplished by the goodness of the individual, but by the grace of God.

Clement of Rome

Let us therefore join with those to whom grace is given by God. Let us clothe ourselves in concord, being humble and self- controlled, keeping ourselves far from all backbiting and slander, being justified by works and not by words. . . . Why was our Father Abraham blessed? Was it not because of his deeds of justice and truth, wrought in faith? . . . So we, having been called through his will in Christ Jesus, were not justified through ourselves or through our own wisdom or understanding or piety or works which we wrought in holiness of heart, but through faith, whereby the almighty God justified all men. (Letter to the Corinthians 30:3, 31:2, 32:3-4 [A.D. 110]).

Theophilus of Antioch

Give studious attention to the prophetic writings, and they will lead you on a clearer path to escape the eternal punishments and to obtain the eternal good things of God. He who gave the mouth for speech and formed the ears for hearing and made eyes for seeing will examine everything and will judge justly, granting recompense to each according to merit. To those who seek immortality by the patient exercise of good works, he will give everlasting life, joy, peace, rest, and all good things, which neither has eye seen nor ear heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man. For the unbelievers and for the contemptuous, and for those who do not submit to the truth but assent to iniquity, when they have been involved in adulteries and fornications and homosexuality and avarice and in lawless idolatries, there will be wrath and indignation, tribulation and anguish, and in the end such men as these will be detained in everlasting fire (To Autolycas 1:14 [ca. A.D. 181]).

Clement of Alexandria

When we hear, 'Your faith has saved you,' we do not understand the Lord to say simply that they will be saved who have believed in whatever manner, even if works have not followed. To begin with, it was to the Jews alone that he spoke this phrase, who had lived in accord with the law and blamelessly and who had lacked only faith in the Lord (Stromateis or Miscellanies 6:14:108:4 [post A.D. 202]).

Origen

Whoever dies in his sins, even if he profess to believe in Christ, does not truly believe in him; and even if that which exists without works be called faith, such faith is dead in itself, as we read in the epistle bearing the name of James (Commentaries on John 19:6 [A.D. 226-232]).

Cyprian

You, then, who are rich and wealthy, buy for yourself from Christ gold purified in fire, for with your filth, as if burned away in the fire; you can be like pure gold, if you are cleansed by almsgiving and by works of justice. Buy yourself a white garment so that, although you had been naked like Adam and were formerly frightful and deformed, you may be clothed in the white garment of Christ. You who are a matron rich and wealthy, anoint not your eyes with the antimony of the devil, but with the salve of Christ, so that you may at last come to see God, when you have merited before God both by your works and by your manner of living (Works and Almsgiving 14 [A.D. 252]).

Aphracrtes

Great is the gift which he that is good has given to us. While not forcing us, and in spite of our sins he wants us to be justified. While he is in no way aided by our good works, he heals us that we may be pleasing in his sight. When we do not wish to ask of him, he is angry with us. He calls out to all of us constantly; "Ask and receive, and when you seek, you shall find" (Treatises 23:48 [A.D. 336-345]).

Gregory of Nyssa

Paul, joining righteousness to faith and weaving them together, constructs of them the breastplates for the infantryman, armoring the soldier properly and safely on both sides. A soldier cannot be considered safely armored when either shield is disjoined from the other. Faith without works of justice is not sufficient for salvation; neither is righteous living secure in itself of salvation, if it is disjoined from faith (Homilies on Ecclesiastes 8 [ca. A.D. 335- 394]).

John Chrysostom

He that believes in the Son has everlasting life." Is it enough, then, to believe in the Son,' someone will say, 'in order to have everlasting life?' By no means! Listen to Christ declare this himself when he says, 'Not everyone who says to me, "Lord! Lord!" shall enter into the kingdom of heaven'; and the blasphemy against the Spirit is alone sufficient to cast him into hell. But why should I speak of a part of our teaching? For if a man believe rightly in the Father and in the Son and in the Holy Spirit, but does not live rightly, his faith will avail him nothing toward salvation (Homilies on the Gospel of John 31:1[circa A.D. 391]).

Jerome

But since in the Law no one is justified before God, it is evident that the just man lives by faith.' It should be noted that he does not say that a man, a person, lives by faith, lest it be thought that he is condemning good works. Rather, he says the 'just' man lives by faith. He implies thereby that
whoever would be faithful and would conduct his life according to the faith can in no other way arrive at the faith or live in it except first he be a just man of pure life, coming up to the faith by certain degrees (Commentaries on Galatians 2:3:11 [A.D. 386]).

Augustine

"He was handed over for our offenses, and he rose again for our justification." What does this mean, "for our justification?" So that he might justify us, so that he might make us just. You will be a work of God, not only because you are a man, but also because you are just. For it is better that you be just than that you are a man. If God made you a man, and you made your-self just, something you were doing would be better than what God did. But God made you without any cooperation on your part. You did not lend your consent so that God could make you. How could you have consented, when you did not exist? But he who made you without your consent does not justify you without your consent. He made you without your knowledge, but he does not justify you without your willing it (Sermons 169:13 [inter A.D. 391-430]).

But we know that God does not hear sinners: but if any man is a worshiper of God and does his will, that man God will hear. He still speaks as one only anointed. For God does listen to sinners too. If God did not listen to sinners, it would have been all in vain for the publican to cast down his eyes to the ground and strike his breast saying: "Lord, be merciful to me, a sinner." And that confession merited justification, just as the blind man merited enlightenment (Homilies on the Gospel of John 44:13 [A.D. 416]).


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To: WriteOn

Thank you, I didn't know the tradition.

I am no Bishop, but otherwise it stays.


21 posted on 02/14/2007 7:15:35 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: rrc; Religion Moderator; Alex Murphy

It is because using the word "deformation" to derogate the protestant Reformation is a violation of the Religion Moderator's rules for the Religion Forum.

The RM permits caucuses as sort of "closed door business meetings" for the groups invovled.

However, if they engage in negativity toward other groups, then they lose their caucus status.


22 posted on 02/14/2007 7:29:37 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: rrc; Religion Moderator; Alex Murphy

They are the rules. Other rules are no profanity, no personal attacks, and no racism or violence.

Do you find those to be annoying impositions "so as not to bother anyone's sensitivities?"

Perhaps it isn't clear to you that on a caucus thread, the protestants (in this case) are NOT ALLOWED to respond to your attacks?

(BTW, the quote from Clement that leads this section has Clement agreeing that salvation is by faith and not by works.)


24 posted on 02/14/2007 7:36:28 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins; NYer

Oh, dear. The RM is at last invoked and our crosses look like spears.

Alas.

The Group Hug thing is right out by now, I suppose.


26 posted on 02/14/2007 7:47:24 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh

Alas....

Crosses actually look more like swords.


28 posted on 02/14/2007 7:50:59 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: rrc

The rules do not permit me to discuss it with you.


29 posted on 02/14/2007 7:53:12 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: rrc
well then, your refutation flies in the face of the church fathers.....

Nothing could be more false.

Was Peter a Christian before he put ink to paper?

30 posted on 02/14/2007 7:53:43 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: xzins

;)


31 posted on 02/14/2007 7:54:43 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: rrc
peter doesnt enter into this discussion

What an odd thing for a Catholic to say.

How about Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?

Were they Christians before they set ink to paper?

35 posted on 02/14/2007 8:07:15 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: sandyeggo

Thanks.


36 posted on 02/14/2007 8:08:24 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: rrc

Please allow me to remind you that the title is "The Early Church Fathers on Justification"

Peter, I think, qualifies.

And, you did not answer my question.


38 posted on 02/14/2007 8:21:01 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: rrc; Enosh; xzins

If you wish to discuss the doctrines and beliefs outside the Catholic/Orthodox confession (this caucus) then the thread will be opened for rebuttal.


39 posted on 02/14/2007 8:54:54 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: NYer
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40 posted on 02/14/2007 9:07:41 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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