Posted on 03/10/2007 1:25:48 PM PST by CatQuilt
Sean Hannity... Wow. Well, this should be a surprise to exactly no one, but ... watch this. (Source)
(Actually, it might be better to just go here - look the right side at "Hot Video." 'Cause it's hot. - "Judgment Day for Sean."
In short: Sean Hannity running all over Fr. Tom Euteneuer of Human Life International for questioning his rejection of the Church's teaching on birth control.
(Excerpt) Read more at amywelborn.typepad.com ...
Fr. Euteneuer teaches what the Magesterium and the Catachism states. He does not make the rules as he goes along.
The best kept secret in the Church today is Natural Family Planning. This is perhaps because progressive Catholics, who control most of the Church's teaching apparatus, have never focused on it. They think it part of the baggage of Humanae Vitae, a document they condemn out of hand without really pondering its contents.
This attitude shows people that the Church sees the conjugal act as more than just for having babies, but is also an expression of love and unity between the husband and wife.
You wrote:
"What if My wife and I want to have sex just for the pleasure of it and we aren't looking to have any kids?"
Oh, so you just want to use each other for pleasure, right? No, of course not. I always think of what that very non-Christian Ghandi said: "Contraceptives are an insult to woman hood. The difference between a prostitute and a woman using contraceptives is only this that the former sells her body to several men, the latter sells it to one man."
"Is it such a bad thing to take measures to prevent it?"
When exactly is it a good thing to do what is evil just because it is convenient and accepted by society?
"Would you support a ban on birth control?"
I would, but then again, our society DID ban contraceptives not all that many decades ago.
http://www.godspy.com/life/Gandhi-on-Sex-Marriage-and-Birth-Control-by-Daniel-Vitz.cfm
Years ago, when I was young and apostate, my wife used oral contraceptives. When we eventually decided to have children it took us 3 and a half years to finally conceive.
I can't help but wonder about what these pills may have done to my wife's body in the long run. Hopefully, I just worry too much.
Its result is heinous though. God gives positive commands to multiply, and calls children a blessing. Euteneuer stubs all this out and then slides in under a technicality of avoiding explicit edicts of Humanae Vitae of articial birth control.
His process and program is most destructive however. It basiically destroys catholic progeny, allows for family planning at a percentage far greater than anyone ever claims for condoms. Irony of ironies......
No one knew of such science-based process prescriptive methods until the last 15-20 years. Explain the same program to St Pius V or X and what would they say about it? They would throw up and the former would flog him.
There are several problems with that:
This is weasel wording. "Healthy spacing" of children is strict abstinence until St. Paul admonishes you coming back together so as not to "burn with passion." (1 Cor 7).
Euteneuer promotes this process as a hugely successful contra (against) ception (conception) that one poster on this forum bragged about "we've been successful with this for 7 years..." meaning, I've avoided getting any new brats from the Lord. He may be willing but I'm not. btw, (implied,) the sex is great) "
Agree on your points here but consider while Mosaic law gave stricter penalties (some 35 capital statutes), the Sermon on the Mount raises the standard very high. Instead of getting by with being a "non-murderer" Christ says you can't get angry without a cause. Instead of being a "non-adulterer" Christ says you can't lust in your heart. So, Christ teaches us about the spirit of the law.
Euteneuer is patting himself on the back by being a non-IUD/non-drug-pill promoter but he violates the spirit of God's law by showing hundreds and thousands of Catholics how to AVOID children at a better rate than artificial methods.
Hannity was out of sorts. Invalid arguments all over the place. He was completely wrong when he said that Fr. Eutenauer was doing more damage to the faith than he was.
Since when does bartering pieces of our faith help the faith?
Doesn't the Church's position come from an encyclical? Isn't it therefore "ex cathedra"?
I was shocked and appalled by the way Sean attacked the Catholic Church and Father Tom. I wish I could slap Sean's fat little face. He is a LOSER!
I had to quit watching it. The Reverend is correct, he is a heretic.
BTTT!
"Go forth and be fruitful."
No birth control mentioned. Just "be fruitful"
Once on one other thread was enough already.
2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception). |
2370 Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:
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New Study Shows Natural Family Planning Technique More Effective Than Contraception
Clerical Contraception (Important Read! By Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer)
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Couple say Natural Family Planning strengthens marriage |
the only type of bc i'm aware that prevents fertilization is a condom
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