Florida 'Church for Men' Features Rock Band, One-Hour In-and-Out Guarantee

FoxNews ^ | 4/7/2007 | AP

[Terriergal]

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. — No hymnals. No pews. No steeple. No stained glass windows. And no women.

This ain't your grandma's church.

Organizers of the Church For Men say that guys are "bored stiff" in many churches today.

The Church For Men meets one Saturday evening a month, drawing about 70 guys dressed in everything but straight-laced shirts and neckties. The service features a rock band, a shot clock to time the preacher's message and a one-hour in-and-out guarantee.

[Terriergal]

Insanity.

What about ME? I want a church that does *guy* stuff for ladies!

[Terriergal]

ping!

[John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?]

Sorry you will have to start your own. By the way what will you call it?

[JoeSixPack1]

Hey, woman have “The View” !! :-)

[Quix]

I think churches and Christianity have been far too feminized but that it’s men’s fault, on the whole. Abdicating their PRIEST OF THE HOME role and avoiding much spiritual involvement leaves a vacuum which the women ahve thankfully—for the kids’ sake—filled overwhelmingly productively and faithfully.

But that has to change if the church is going to accomplish all it needs to in our era—as well as be ready for Christ’s return.

I don’t know that this effort is the ideal effort. But a lot of thought and prayer needs to go into changing things so that men are eager to take their proper roles in congregations.

Thankfully, our pastor is very keenly sensitive to such issues and experimenting in a host of ways that seem to be working.

Thanks for the article.

[uptoolate]

Organizers of the Church For Men say that guys are "bored stiff" in many churches today.

Stagehand approaches dressing room door with star on it...
Knock...Knock...Knock...
"Holy Spirit!? You're on in five...Remember to keep it short."
"Metallica takes the stage at 6:30 followed by NCAA Basketball...You know how the network execs hate it when we run late..."

[jobim]

Well, that's what you Protestants get for casting aside Christ's Church Service (aka Mass) for something man-made.

Just having a little fun with fellow Christians - a blessed Easter to all brothers in Christ! (And come home, please)

[steadfastconservative]

Having men act as “priests in the home” is quite a comedown from having them function as priests in the sanctuary. It looks as though Protestantism’s rejection of the ministerial priesthood has ultimately led to the feminazation of Protestantism. Just another good reason for the Catholic Church to retain its male priesthood.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

>>casting aside Christ’s Church Service (aka Mass) for something man-made.<<

The Mass IS man-made. Christ died once for all.

>>Just having a little fun with fellow Christians<<

Same here. Post Tenebras Lux, my FRiend - it’s more than a saying, it’s the truth! :-)

And a blessed Resurrection Sunday to you as well!

[Lee N. Field]

Maybe it's just me, but most of what I see that's pitched specifically to men falls completely flat. I'm not interested in Harleys in church, or fishing gear or loud clangy "music". Give me the Word, in large amounts.

[hiho hiho]

“The old cross slew men; the new cross entertains them. The old cross condemned; the new cross amuses. The old cross destroyed confidence in the flesh; the new cross encourages it.”

A. W. Tozer (1897-1963)

[ItsOurTimeNow]

This is disgraceful, but typical, by-product of the man-centered church ‘growth’ movement.

Evangelical Christianity has been hijacked by touchy-feely drippy nonsense. The Christian giants of old would be ashamed of what we’ve allowed to happen to the church that they suffered and died for.

The men who want their comforts met on Sundays are not the men who will go to prison for the faith. The men who make conditional demands on their worship of God are not the men who will suffer the loss of finances, shelter, family, etc in order to worship God. They are creating a god in their own image, they are putting comforts ahead of the one true God, they are dishonoring the Sabbath, and they treat His name recklessly. The first 4 commandments habitually broken - all for rock music and jeans.

This fluffy bunny garbage needs to stop. This may sound defeatest - but I actually hope for Christian persecution in this country. By and large, Americans take their faith for granted, and it’s about time we’re put to some purging tests to remove the dross. The wheat needs to be separated from the tare in a big way.

[Condor 63]

The men who want their comforts met on Sundays are not the men who will go to prison for the faith. The men who make conditional demands on their worship of God are not the men who will suffer the loss of finances, shelter, family, etc in order to worship God. They are creating a god in their own image

Well said.

It is not the feminization of the Church it is the liberalization of the Church.

More of the same I'm OK - You're OK crap from the 60's & 70's that seems to be infecting everything else in American life these days. IMO too many Churches have taken the focus away from salvation and moved it to making everyone feel good about themselves and others.

Clearly love and brotherhood of man is a critical part of the Christian experience but many have taken them and completely replaced the teaching against sin.

Men react to this instinctively since everyone knows we tend be geared more to problem solving than discussions of love and feelings.

[uptoolate]

This may sound defeatest - but I actually hope for Christian persecution in this country.

I agree with you in a sense. I pray, first, for a moving of the Holy Spirit to convict the church of her sins and give her an opportunity to repent, then secondly, for sifting to separate the true followers from the false, which will more than likely come through persecution.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Amen to that!

It’s an easy-sell because there’s no conviction. Osteen sells out 50,000 seat stadiums to preach on the powers of positive thought and prosperity, and subsequently deludes those 50,000 into a false belief.

We need STRONG G O D L Y MEN, not just in the church, but leading their FAMILIES in holiness and obedience to God’s Word. The man who defaults to the church to teach godliness to his children is going against Scripture.

>>Clearly love and brotherhood of man is a critical part of the Christian experience but many have taken them and completely replaced the teaching against sin.<<

Amen again. The difference is that many believe they go to church to be served. The truth is, we go to church to SERVE. To serve God, and to serve the brethren.

God’s commands are, at their root, simple. It’s the man-centered, seeker-friendly motives that complicate things.

[Tribune7]

You’d appreciate this.

[P-Marlowe]

The Founder of this Movement makes some legitimate points:

Lovey-dovey songs push erotic envelope

Some of the latest worship songs border on the erotic. I was standing in church a couple of weeks ago when these lyrics popped up on the screen:

Your love is extravagant

Your friendship, it is intimate

I feel I’m moving to the rhythm of Your grace

Your fragrance is intoxicating in our secret place

Your love is extravagant

Spread wide in the arms of Christ is the love that covers sin

No greater love have I ever known

You considered me a friend

Capture my heart again

When I saw the phrases “moving to the rhythm” and “spread wide” I just about fainted. Lyrics like these leave little doubt: today’s praise music targets love-starved women. (Gals buy about 75% of the praise and worship CDs) I don't know any man who follows Christ for his "intoxicating fragrance."

Meanwhile, the masculine hymns of a generation ago have been banned in most churches. We no longer sing of battle, blood or sacrifice. Onward, Christian Soldiers is forbidden. Rise Up O Men of God has been gender neutralized. We've retired the action songs and replaced them with relationship songs.

There's nothing wrong with worship songs that evoke strong emotion. I'm not afraid to admit that just last Sunday I was moved to tears by a worship song I heard in church. But we cross the line when we imagine Jesus as our lover rather than our leader.

[Larry Lucido]

Hmm, not much info in the story. I guess one could go here if they want to investigate whether there is any Word being taught there.

http://www.churchformen.com/

[Condor 63]

Onward, Christian Soldiers is forbidden.

Not in my neighborhood. ;0)

I only live three blocks away from my Church and the bells toll that song every Sunday at 10 AM for the call to worship. You can hear it for miles around and it is quite inspirational.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

What about ME?~snip!~

That's just the whole point. The whole concept is What about me, and not a thing to do with 'What about GOD?'

That said: With all due respect to your gender, sit back and quietly watch what happens when men in any particular congregation try to have some sort of men only event.

99 out of 100 times there will be some woman who just has to poke her nose into the matter. A couple of times, i've had to tell "Ms. Nosy Parker" to P!$$ off and go home. ...a single man can get away with that, not recommended for married men.