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Fatima: The secret's out, despite claims to the contrary
CNS ^ | May 11, 2007 | Cindy Wooden

Posted on 05/11/2007 1:27:17 PM PDT by NYer

Fatima: The secret's out, despite claims to the contrary

By Cindy Wooden
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Despite claims there are still secrets connected to the apparition of Our Lady of Fatima, Pope Benedict XVI and his secretary of state said the entire message has been published and has been interpreted accurately.

The Marian apparitions to three children in Fatima, Portugal, began 90 years ago May 13, and Pope John Paul II ordered the so-called "third secret" of Fatima to be published in 2000.

As the Fatima anniversary approached, the Vatican bookstore was selling copies of "The Last Fatima Visionary: My Meetings With Sister Lucia." The 140-page, Italian-language interview with Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Vatican secretary of state, opens with a letter of presentation from Pope Benedict.

The two men worked with Pope John Paul to publish the "third secret" and to write an official commentary on it, describing its depiction of a "man dressed in white" shot down amid the rubble of a ruined city as a prophetic vision of the 1981 attempt to assassinate Pope John Paul.

In the new book, Cardinal Bertone said Carmelite Sister Lucia dos Santos, at the time the last surviving visionary, confirmed the Vatican's interpretation.

He also said Pope John Paul felt that since the assassination attempt had already taken place and he survived, the 2000 beatification of Sister Lucia's cousins, Francisco and Jacinta Marto, was an appropriate occasion for announcing the publication of the secret.

The continuing rumors that the Vatican is still hiding something puzzle Cardinal Bertone and, he said, they irritated Sister Lucia, who died in February 2005 at the age of 97.

In the book, Cardinal Bertone said, "The most diehard 'Fatimists,' like those who follow Father Nicholas Gruner's Fatima Crusader magazine, remain disappointed."

Father Gruner, a priest based in Canada, repeatedly has said that the Vatican's text does not match other accounts by Sister Lucia and, basically, does not contain anything worrying enough to have prevented Popes John XXIII, Paul VI and John Paul II from publishing it earlier.

The strange thing, Cardinal Bertone said in the new book, is that Pope John Paul decided to publish the secret precisely to put an end to the wild speculation that had surrounded it.

"The pressure from the 'Fatimists' was extremely strong," the cardinal said.

"The most absurd theses" were being spread, mainly presuming that the secret predicted catastrophic world events or widespread heresy at the top levels of the church, Cardinal Bertone said.

"Clearing up the question was a pastoral concern," he said.

Pope Benedict's letter, written in late February, reflects that concern.

The publication of the third secret "was a time of light, not only because the message could be known by all, but also because it unveiled the truth amid the confused framework of apocalyptic interpretations and speculation circulating in the church, upsetting the faithful rather than asking them for prayers and repentance," Pope Benedict wrote.

The pope, as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said he wrote the Vatican commentary "after having prayed intensely and meditated deeply on the authentic words of the third part of the secret of Fatima, contained on sheets written by Sister Lucia."

Pope Benedict said that for him the secret can be summarized "by the consoling promise of the Most Holy Virgin: 'My immaculate heart will triumph.'"

Cardinal Bertone's knowledge of the Fatima secret is not something that comes just from a book.

As secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, he was sent by Pope John Paul to Fatima to discuss the upcoming publication of the secret with Sister Lucia.

What was known as the "third secret" was, in fact, the third part of a vision shown to Sister Lucia and her cousins.

Sister Lucia had made the first two parts public in the late 1930s. They included a vision of hell shown to the children, along with prophecies concerning the outbreak of World War II, the rise of communism and the ultimate triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, especially in Russia if the country was consecrated to her Immaculate Heart.

Sister Lucia wrote down the third part of the message, sealed it in an envelope and gave it to her local bishop. The message was sent to the Vatican in 1957, where successive popes read it, but decided not to reveal its contents.

As for objections that the secret could not refer to Pope John Paul since he did not die, Cardinal Bertone said such objections show an ignorance of the spiritual purpose of prophecy.

"Prophecy is not guided by a deterministic fatalism," he said. "Prayer and penance are stronger than evil and than bullets."

While prophecy warns of what could happen if people do not pray and repent, he said, it also demonstrates the fact that "conversion, penance and prayer can change the course of history."


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; fatima; sisterlucia

1 posted on 05/11/2007 1:27:18 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

FATIMA STORY

2 posted on 05/11/2007 1:28:41 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
shot down amid the rubble of a ruined city

Was PJII shot in a "ruined" city?

3 posted on 05/11/2007 1:47:14 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: fatima

ping


4 posted on 05/11/2007 1:51:57 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: Rodney King

>>Was JPII shot in a “ruined” city?<<

Kind of.
It’s being built again with B16.


5 posted on 05/11/2007 1:57:54 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Rodney King

Here is the 3rd secret.
“J.M.J.

The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917.

I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.

After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!’. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it’ a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father’. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

Tuy-3-1-1944”.

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:d0cKPPpbiyYJ:www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html+3rd+secret&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us


6 posted on 05/11/2007 2:36:13 PM PDT by fatima (Free (((Hugs))) today.)
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To: patton

Thanks Patton:)


7 posted on 05/11/2007 2:36:51 PM PDT by fatima (Free (((Hugs))) today.)
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To: fatima

((((hugs))))


8 posted on 05/11/2007 2:39:46 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: patton

You know this is a free hug day:)(((Hugs)))


9 posted on 05/11/2007 2:41:19 PM PDT by fatima (Free (((Hugs))) today.)
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To: NYer
basically, does not contain anything worrying enough to have prevented Popes John XXIII, Paul VI and John Paul II from publishing it earlier.

Unless you count the various crazies who would try to become part of the prophesy! Who wants to wear a sign over their head saying 'Assissinate me - it's been foretold'.

10 posted on 05/11/2007 4:01:25 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Patriotic1

I agree. I think it was a good decision to keep the secret hidden for the time it was.


11 posted on 05/11/2007 5:48:39 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: fatima

As a prophecy, that one is as clear as mud. Considering that then-Cardinal Ratzinger’s published official commentary on Fatima states regarding Fatima that “No great mystery is revealed; nor is the future unveiled.” this new announcement is hardly surprising.


12 posted on 05/11/2007 6:05:05 PM PDT by DiogenesTheDog
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To: All; vox_freedom; Canticle_of_Deborah
the entire message has been published and has been interpreted accurately.

And I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you.

Watch on line:

Heaven's Key to Peace


13 posted on 05/11/2007 6:19:29 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE

Thanks MurphE.


14 posted on 05/11/2007 6:26:53 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: DiogenesTheDog

It’s the language of the apocalypse. It’s meaning is as hard to interpret as a dream.


15 posted on 05/11/2007 7:41:19 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: murphE
And I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you.

Well that was weird. I read the article and said the same thing.

16 posted on 05/11/2007 9:27:45 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (tired of voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: NYer
Our Lady of Fatima, May 13

Litany of Our Lady of Fatima

Last Fatima child buried in final resting place (Sr. Maria's remains transferred to Fatima)

Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

SISTER LUCIA RIP

LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97

Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies

Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)

Mourning for Fatima seer (Portugal declares day of mourning)

Third Secret of Fatima is not fully revealed.

Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

Sr. Lucia, Fatima, and Islam

Mystery Fatima: Death of Lucia Accents Famed Secrets & Area's Hidden History

"No More Secrets," Visionary Said in 2001 (Sr. Lucia Confirmed Russia Consecrated to Mary)

Papal praise at Sister Lucia's funeral

Our Lady of Fatima, ‘counterrevolutionary’ and ‘ecumenical’

Fatima Statue Due at Vatican to Mark a Fateful Day 25 Years After Attempt on John Paul II's Life

Sister Lucia's Unpublished Writings Released - Visionary Reflects on Marian Apparitions

17 posted on 05/11/2007 11:50:54 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

In another thread we learned that it was not the BVM who appeared but rather Fatima the daughter of Muhammad.

Already Muslims are rewriting history for when they take over Europe.

Maybe someday Oxford will be a Qu’ran school.


18 posted on 05/12/2007 1:54:37 AM PDT by Macoraba
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To: NYer

Those of us of “an age” and who went to Catholic School may remember the nuns terrorizing us children with this “third secret” stuff; that the Pope read it but that he wouldn’t make it public because “the world couldn’t take it.” In an era of “duck and cover” drills, the conclusion of elementary school kids was quite obvious. My sister and I had nightmares for weeks after hearing that stuff. It was an awful thing to do to children.


19 posted on 05/12/2007 4:53:14 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: pjr12345

You made here, after all.

I thought we were going to miss you.


21 posted on 05/12/2007 6:38:28 AM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: Running On Empty

Where would a post like this be without my entertaining observations?
How can I deny the masses of lurkers checking out these posts a bit of comic relief?
After all, I’ve got my fans to consider.


22 posted on 05/12/2007 6:44:27 AM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Radicaleftists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: Kolokotronis

I agree that kids shouldn’t have to be terrorized with things they aren’t capable of understanding or correcting.

I agree that nuns often did, said and taught foolish things.

Having acknowledged that, I also don’t believe that the events of Fatima were fake or false. Nor were the events at Lourdes. Nor were the events at Guadalupe.

As for children being terrified, they have just as many things, people and events to terrify them today and the present day terrors are very real nor do they hold out the same hope as the events at Fatima, Lourdes and Guadalupe.

I am not ashamed of those events and only regret that they weren’t (and still aren’t) presented in a correctly prophetic and hope-filled way.


23 posted on 05/12/2007 6:50:29 AM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: pjr12345

Fans are always helpful when there is hot air around.


24 posted on 05/12/2007 6:51:44 AM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: pjr12345

All your ridicule won’t make a difference to me.


26 posted on 05/12/2007 7:28:05 AM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: pjr12345

Knock it off!


27 posted on 05/12/2007 12:26:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

I didn’t realize this was a “caucus” thread. It was my understanding that as long as I don’t make it personal, which I hadn’t, my posts demonstrating my disagreement with the topic were acceptable.

Please clarify which specific forum rule(s) I have violated.

Thank you.


28 posted on 05/12/2007 4:35:25 PM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Radicaleftists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: Religion Moderator

Are you the same as the “Admin Moderator”?


29 posted on 05/12/2007 4:39:03 PM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Radicaleftists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: Rodney King
Ruined City -- just look at the persecutions of the Church when Pope John Paul II was pope (and during the 20th Century...

There were quite a few martyrs in the church during the Papacy of Pope John Paul II.

Additionally, there were many vocations lost to the Catholic Church after Vatican II (priests, sisters, brothers).

One only need to read The Miracle of Hope about the life of Francis Xavier Cardinal Nguyen van Thuan to see the persecution in Vietnam, let alone other places such as Africa, the Middle East, China, and in the Soviet Union (under Communist rule).

Reading the story of Josyp Terelya of the Ukraine can give one the sense of persecution in the Soviet Union...

As for Pope John Paul II, there is one red square (where the assassination attempt occurred on his life) in Saint Peter's Square at the Vatican. Seminarians from the North American College point this out to visitors when they give tours...

30 posted on 05/12/2007 7:10:52 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: pjr12345
You have one strike against you on this thread -- Post #20 was removed (for some reason)... Are you a three strikes and you're out type of poster?
31 posted on 05/12/2007 7:14:28 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: All
Dear faithful Catholics. Please take note that when such threads are published, Mormons remain respectful and refuse to take part in the Catholic bash-fest instigated by others.

Devout Catholics are fine people. Their faith produces good fruit.

32 posted on 05/12/2007 7:20:27 PM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: pjr12345
Hollywood, in the 1940's and 1950's, made the movie Miracle of Fatima.

One reason the movie was made was that four of the predictions made by the woman from heaven had come true by that time.

One was that Jacinto would go to heaven shortly (she died about 1919). The second one was that her brother Francesco would join her in heaven. He also died about 1919. But the woman from Heaven said that Lucia Santos would have to remain on earth for a while to perform work that heaven wanted done (she died almost 85 years after the apparitions, and just weeks before Pope John Paul II).

The third prediction of the woman from heaven was that Russia would spread its errors through the world. This made the three kids the laughing stock of people in 1917, and the last apparition occurred in October of 1917 -- the month of Red October -- the Russian Revolution.

Russia had been knocked out early in World War I because it was falling apart. So the fact Russia would spread its errors throughout the world seemed like a joke at the time.

But the warning was about atheistic communism, which Russia did spread in the 1920's until the fall of Communism in Russia in 1990...

The last prediction (that people would know about it) was that if people did not repent, an even worse war would come upon the earth than the War going on then (World War I). This was the prediction for World War II -- but it was a conditional prediction.

Lastly, the children were mocked by the freemason government of Portugal, and since the children predicted a miracle on October 13, 1917, this event was going to be covered by the Lisbon newspaper -- because the freemasons knew the miracle would not occur (which it did).

If you can read Portugese, you can read the article about the Miracle of the Sun that occurred that day -- October 13, 1917 -- at the Cove de Iria (Cove of Peace) at Fatima, Portugal.

There were many predictions that did came true. One prediction the children muffed was because they did not understand time and heaven. The woman from heaven said that World War I would end soon. It ended over a year later... But the children thought that it would be over in days or a few weeks...

That is sort of like what the womand from heaven said about Lucia Santos staying on earth -- for a while longer. That for a while longer was over 85 years and almost 90 years...

33 posted on 05/12/2007 7:32:11 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Kolokotronis
nuns terrorizing us children with this “third secret” stuff;

Our Lady showed those children a vision of hell. They said that if she had not assured them they would go to heaven before hand they would have dropped dead on the spot it was so terrifying. However, it did make them lead very holy lives and do penance so that poor sinners might not suffer that fate. Of course, Our Lady would probably be brought up on child abuse charges today...

34 posted on 05/12/2007 8:20:42 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: All

Fatima on Demand


35 posted on 05/12/2007 8:38:07 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: pjr12345

Sometimes.


36 posted on 05/12/2007 9:29:29 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Could you explain to me why my post was pulled? I made no personal attack, nor was the thread posted as a caucus. If there is some other criteria of which I am unaware, I’d like to know for future reference.

Thanks.


37 posted on 05/12/2007 9:46:22 PM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Radicaleftists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: topher

These “predictions” aren’t all that specific. Surely the Psychic Hotline could do equally well.


38 posted on 05/12/2007 9:56:49 PM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Radicaleftists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: NYer
As for objections that the secret could not refer to Pope John Paul since he did not die, Cardinal Bertone said such objections show an ignorance of the spiritual purpose of prophecy.
"Prophecy is not guided by a deterministic fatalism," he said. "Prayer and penance are stronger than evil and than bullets."
While prophecy warns of what could happen if people do not pray and repent, he said, it also demonstrates the fact that "conversion, penance and prayer can change the course of history."

Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

39 posted on 05/13/2007 6:56:39 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: murphE; All

Blessed Feast day of Our Lady of Fatima.The Pope is on for Holy Mass right now on EWTN in Brazil.


40 posted on 05/13/2007 7:27:59 AM PDT by fatima (Free (((Hugs))) today.)
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To: fatima
American Catholic’s Saint of the Day

                                                            
May 13, 2007
Our Lady of Fatima

Between May 13 and October 13, 1917, three Portuguese children received apparitions of Our Lady at Cova da Iria, near Fatima, a city 110 miles north of Lisbon. (See February 20 entry for Blessed Jacinta and Francisco Marto). Mary asked the children to pray the rosary for world peace, for the end of World War I, for sinners and for the conversion of Russia.

Mary gave the children three secrets. Since Francisco died in 1919 and Jacinta the following year, Lucia, who later became a Carmelite nun, revealed the first secret in 1927, concerning devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. The second secret was a vision of hell.

Pope John Paul II directed the Holy See's Secretary of State to reveal the third secret in 2000; it spoke of a 'bishop in white' who was shot by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows into him. Many people linked this to the assassination attempt against Pope John Paul II in St. Peter's Square on May 13, 1981.

The feast of Our Lady of Fatima was approved by the local bishop in 1930; it was added to the Church's worldwide calendar in 2002. Sister Lucia died in 2005 at the age of 97.

Comment:

The message of Fatima is simple: Pray. Unfortunately, some people—not Sister Lucia—have distorted these revelations, making them into an apocalyptic event for which they are now the only reliable interpreters. They have, for example, claimed that Mary's request that the world be consecrated to her has been ignored. Sister Lucia has agreed that Pope John Paul II's public consecration in St. Peter's Square on March 25, 1984, fulfilled Mary's request. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith prepared a June 26, 2000, document explaining the “third secret” (available at www.vatican.va).

Mary is perfectly honored when people generously imitate her response “Let it be done to me as you say” (Luke 1:38). Mary can never be seen as a rival to Jesus or to the Church's teaching authority, as exercised by the college of bishops united with the bishop of Rome.

Quote:

“Throughout history there have been supernatural apparitions and signs which go to the heart of human events and which, to the surprise of believers and non-believers alike, play their part in the unfolding of history. These manifestations can never contradict the content of faith, and must therefore have their focus in the core of Christ's proclamation: the Father's love which leads men and women to conversion and bestows the grace required to abandon oneself to him with filial devotion. This too is the message of Fatima which, with its urgent call to conversion and penance, draws us to the heart of the Gospel” (The Message of Fatima, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, June 26, 2000).



41 posted on 05/13/2007 7:41:25 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

(((Hugs)))Prayers for All on this wonderful day.I was getting to you Beautiful-gotta run.


42 posted on 05/13/2007 7:43:29 AM PDT by fatima (Free (((Hugs))) today.)
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To: pjr12345; Religion Moderator
To: Religion Moderator ....... Are you the same as the “Admin Moderator”?

As I understand it, this is "Religion Moderator":

and this is "Admin Moderator":


43 posted on 05/13/2007 8:00:14 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: fatima; patton

Darn, I missed it. Any day-old hugs left?


44 posted on 05/13/2007 8:09:54 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: Larry Lucido

Free hugs today too Larry:)(((Hugs)))


45 posted on 05/13/2007 8:12:27 AM PDT by fatima (Free (((Hugs))) today.)
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To: pjr12345; Religion Moderator
Are you the same as the “Admin Moderator”?

The identity of the Moderator was spoken by a visionary, then placed in a sealed envelope.

The Vatican has decided not to release that information. It is for your own good.

46 posted on 05/14/2007 8:55:51 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: NYer

the Vatican’s page on Fatima....

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html

Poor Fr. Gruner - he won’t be able to keep his yap shut about this, we’re sure to hear from him this week.

Catholics need their own version of 9/11 conspiracy theorists I suppose.


47 posted on 05/14/2007 9:13:25 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: BlackVeil; Religion Moderator

Given the yanking of my posts which violated no rule, the unwillingness to provide a reason, and the deafening silence that has ensued, I’m inclined to believe your vatican connection theory.


48 posted on 05/15/2007 6:20:59 AM PDT by pjr12345
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To: fatima

Merry Christmas bump!


49 posted on 12/03/2010 7:20:07 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

WooHoo Arthur Wildfire! March,Merry Christmas:)((((((hugs)))))


50 posted on 12/03/2010 8:55:57 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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