Posted on 06/01/2007 2:28:41 PM PDT by Gamecock
LOL,Now you know that some people only accept the books they want to and their interpretation is the only one acceptable.
I ride to work with an Evangelical and he reads out loud while we go to work at 4am. I have a Roomate that is Jewish and converted and he quotes all day Long...
I give him the catholic take and tell him about the Liturgical Calendar Like Pentecost sunday and last Sunday being Trinity Sunday....
I even explained to Him St Faustina and Christ declaring Divine mercy Sunday! the Sunday after Easter! Thats Christ speaking about HIS Church....to St faustina in the 1930’s
Thats the reward we get as Catholics we can draw off of so many Saints of the church as a Matter of fact the Liturgy combines that with scripture every day!
GOD Bless!
“Some people” know better.
Who’s fooling who? The largest used portion of the Bible serves by most RCC households is convenient family records section. There they record all the “sacramental” events in the lives of their children.
Other than the extra books that justify non-Biblical doctrine, I have found the RCC translations to be generally reasonable, even good. But let’s face it, there’s little risk of an RCC member actually reading it.
You ought to brush up on the dispersed nature of early Believers and their congregational independence.
As to Tobit, I have this to share. It is an uninspired piece of literature that ought to be taken as such.
There’s nothing wrong with studying history, and if you’re that interested in Scripture, why don’t you read it for yourself. You’re a smart person; you’re certainly capable of understanding what you read.
Why is it that your church is okay with its members reading and decyphering its liturgy, canons and other tomes, but when it comes to the Bible... you guys are considered complete dolts, incapable of comprehending it? When I bought my car I made sure I understood the contract. I took great care to read through every (tedious) word of it to make sure to understand my rights and obligations. I certainly wouldn’t have signed the document without reading and understanding. And if the salesman tried to get me to ignore the contract and sign my name, I would have walked out. Shouldn’t we be even more diligent with our eternal souls?
Apparently you need to brush up on early believers so that you would recognize that their customs and beliefs were wholly Catholic. You wouldn't make these spectacularly ignorant statements:
As to Tobit, I have this to share. It is an uninspired piece of literature that ought to be taken as such.
You diminish any credibility you might enjoy by making these outlandish comments. How can you advise people to read scripture when you don't even know what it is?
LOL. What a shallow understanding you display. You have been thoroughly propagandized.
I guess we'll have to do away with the FReeper prayer threads.
You have no idea what you speak of. And I’ll kindly ask you to refrain your comments to the content of the discussion rather than resorting to the last bastion of a failed argument: personal attack.
Maybe I'm underestimating them because they seem to speak as though they have all knowledge and understanding. They seem to be setting themselves up as gods who can judge the actions and beliefs of others. They seem to think that their eisegesis is applicable to everyone. Some, in their conceit, believe that they have more human knowledge than that assembled by the believers of Christ for 2000 years. I don't begrudge them their belief because God is supreme, He will save who He will.
As for me and my house, I will serve the Lord, my God through His body of believers through the Catholic Church. Others have chosen their own way and I trust that God will lead them.
And that is certainly your choice through the exercise of the free will that God grants all men.
As for me, I defer to the Authority of Scripture, and choose to study it directly to learn what God has done for, and requires of me.
I know exactly what I speak of. I've seen these bigoted anti-Catholic stereotypes a thousand times. And nothing I have written should be construed as personal attack, but that just speaks to the fallacy inherent in personal interpretation.
What failed argument? I haven't argued about anything. Your understanding of what constitutes sacred scripture is different from the perrenial belief of the community of saints. That is just a fact, not an argument.
There are some people out there who imply to others and obviously believe in there own minds that Catholics don’t study scripture directly and learn, like the Pharisees they believe that only they have it right. I wonder if they are so thankful that they strike their breasts and thank God that they are so holy.
Matthew 7:6
Goodbye
A sweeping generalization will almost always turn up exceptions, and if you are one of those exceptions I apologize for lumping you in.
It would be disingenuous for you to have the world believe that more than a small percentage of RCC laity actually read the Bible for themselves. They are not taught such. They are taught the catechism, and gather their knowledge of spiritual things at mass on Sunday and the occasional HDOO (holy day of obligation). While certain Scriptures are recited at mass, it is not studied there. Furthermore, there is little opportunity for, and small participation in (percentage-wise) actual study of Scripture.
Remarkably similar to your own MO, wouldn't you say?
Scour internet to find stories of disaffected Catholics (date irrelevant), post and add provocative comments until debate ignites, then disappear and watch inferno. Reappear occasionally to stoke fire and ping others to bring gasoline.
Repeat daily or as fuel availability permits.
Let's see I'm making "sweeping generalizations" and you are doing what?
It most certainly is studied through the homily.
Here read this,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1845279/posts?page=423#423
Not only that but obscure people who no one but their own parents have ever heard of and we’re supposed to take their new religion as gospel. The difference with Beckwith, Hahn, Grodi...is that their “pedigrees” are known and can be checked.
So, I take it you believe in sweeping generalizations and for a few minutes I just thought you were being pretty hypocritical.
I don't live my life or beliefs on sweeping generalization, and I don't think God does either, He KNOWS the heart of all of His faithful and I really don't believe you do.
this is the Part about reading the Bible every day!I do.. so why do you keep saying I don’t!
it is really sad however when you lose the reading of Books by Catholic Saints.. who have loved the Bible and gave us insights into the Bible Like the Old Testament being full filled in the New.. or Explain Hell or Purgatory or our Souls in depth or experiences or Show us in the Bible the levels of heaven...
People who think they are born again and gain entry into heaven automatically like My carmate Really are reading the Bible just ommitting the Part about Sin... and what Happens..as a result of it ...Hell is real...and you suffer the consequences of your unfullfilled life on Earth.
It Irks me when Catholic Politicians who claim they are special because they were Altar Boys growing up or went to catholic Schools like it Gave you some special dispensation into heaven..it doesn’t, GOD expects more from a catholic because we were raised in CHRISTS OWN CHURCH
I am Glad God gives us Novena’s and Litanies he passed down through our Saints.. June Being the Month of the sacred Heart of Jesus... passed Through St Mary Alconque
http://www.catholicculture.org/liturgicalyear/prayers/view.cfm?id=1055
I am on Fire with My FAITH and when people Insinuate that just the BIBLE and just them talking to GOD is enough I hope it is for their Sake!
When they mock me it’s ok..when they Mock Jesus church I will defend it!
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