Posted on 11/08/2007 5:23:05 PM PST by Colofornian
Nice cop-out. You know, I'd say a good chunk of God's revelations to prophets in OT times made it into God's Word, even if (& actually ESPECIALLY if) we've lost any books along the way. [IOW, at least the prophets were still faithful in recording those revelations; preservation was perhaps a matter beyond their stewardship]
Now compare that to Doctrine & Covenants. Exactly how many "fresh" post-Smith "prophets'" "revelations" are included in this LDS "Scripture?" [So few that it'd only take a one-second breeze to blow 'em away]
So, of course, the standard apologetic line you've been fed by the professional LDS apologists, "You are talking about a personal opinion of his, not a revelation" would then HAVE to apply to about 100% (rounded off) of what most LDS "prophets" have commmunicated. Why? Well, if these were important "revelations" from God (and frankly, I don't think what God has to say on matters is NOT important, do you?), why hold them back from worldwide present & future worldwide Mormons who might not have access to West-laden General Conference Web sites or subscriptions to Ensign Magazine?
So, tell me, then how DO you test any statement of an LDS "prophet"--given that most LDS "prophets" have NEVER couched what they've said as a "revelation" & of the few that have, only a sliver in 100 forests of what they've communicated would amount to that level of "OFFICIALDOM MORMONDOM?"
This is NOT simply a rhetorical question. It's vital. Because elsewise an LDS "prophet" could make 100 predictions about 2008...but never couch them as a "revelation" or "from the Lord"...and then your nice cop-out would apply to all 100 predictions.
Perhaps they could. Why don't you badger them until they do.
Are you casting the first stone?
Don't care whether or not they join me. Their religion is just as good as mine or yours.
Ooh the pseudo mithraic writings are cutting me to the quick.
Oh yer one of those..... Any religion is just as good as another.
Alrighty then. It seems strange that you are here to defend a religion that is even MORE exclusive than Christianity. You DO know that Mormonism is the ONLY true church, right?
It’s been real......
Grig, I notice you don’t have a tagline...may I suggest “The BoM is clear that there are times God commands it and times he forbids it according to his wisdom and purposes.”...would save you lots of time in formulating non-answers.
Ya I'm one of those.
Alrighty then. It seems strange that you are here to defend a religion that is even MORE exclusive than Christianity. You DO know that Mormonism is the ONLY true church, right?
Ya I know all that stuff. I know enough to know that you believe you have the truth and Mormonism doesn't. Pot meet kettle.
Its been real......
Ya a real pressure ah pleasure.
Answered your own question there very nicely, didn't you?
It's called "PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY" a phrase popularized during the Clinton Administration, . When the goals of the GAs in Salt Lake City change, or political correctness becomes troublesome, the "non-revelations" can be changed in a twinkle of the eye.
And, because the LDS membership believes that "When the Leaders speak, the thinking has been done" WE are supposed to give credence to the same arguments by the apologists here.
Boggles the mind, doesn't it?
But not physically, according to their testimony.
Oh??
When was that??
Isaiah 9:1-2
1. Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the Jordan--
2. The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.
Isaiah 42:6-7
6. "I, the LORD, have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles,
7. to open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
Isaiah 49:5-6
5. And now the LORD says-- he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength--
6. he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth."
Isaiah 49:22-23
This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "See, I will beckon to the Gentiles, I will lift up my banner to the peoples; they will bring your sons in their arms and carry your daughters on their shoulders.
13. Leaving Nazareth, he went and lived in Capernaum, which was by the lake in the area of Zebulun and Naphtali--
14. to fulfill what was said through the prophet Isaiah: =========================
Dang!!
Now you are MINDREADING ol' Joe!!!!
Joseph Smith made that change in the 1840 edition to clarify the intended meaning, but subsequent editions of the BoM were based on the 1837 Edition so the change was accidentally dropped until the 80s.
So much for PROOFREADING!!!!
(Let's SEE that 1840 edition)
Then the intro should be TAKEN OUT instead of MISLEADING people into BELIEVEING something that isn't true.
TADA!
Nah; merely pointing out that the Jews CANNOT worship G*D like they are supposed to, for the TEMPLE is GONE!
Never argue against a fellow’s ScreenName...
Perfect answer.
Of course that explanation is almost impossible for most of us to verify.
However, this webpage, written by LDS apologists specifically concerning this issue, does not mention the change of "white" to "pure" at all, and in particular not in reference to changes in the 1840 edition.
What is this? tag team? Let's let G-d decide what worship he accepts. You're a mere human.
Speaking of screen names, have you been milked lately?
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