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The "Lost" Ten Tribes
Things To Come -- A Journal of Biblical Literature | July, 1894 | Editors

Posted on 07/17/2008 4:35:12 AM PDT by John Leland 1789

THE "LOST" TEN TRIBES

In a recent discussion of the subject, by P. Asmussim, in a German periodical, the writer shows that the ten tribes never were "lost." Both in the Books of Kings and in the Assyrian inscriptions we have records of the deportations of the inhabitants of the Northern Kingdom, and in leading particulars the accounts agree.

In 734 Tiglath-Pileser led into captivity the people of Gilead and of Galilee, and the districts of Issachar, Zebulon, Asher, Naphtali, Northern Dan, Eastern Manasseh and Gad were incorporated into the Assyrian monarchy. The last king of Israel accordingly ruled over nothing but what was afterwards called Samaria, i.e. the territory of Ephraim, West Manasseh, and the remnants of Benjamin. (Benjamin had not been joined to Judah, as is generally supposed; but Judah had extended her boundaries in the north at the expense of Benjamin as early as the reigns of David and Solomon. The district of Reuben had disappeared during the time of the Kings.)

From this limited territory, Sargon, in 722, according to his own report, led into captivity 27,280 persons, and later on until 711 some few more. In both deportations from all ten tribes the entire number of captives could not have numbered more than 50,000, including women and children.

The system of deportation then practiced by the despots never sent the entire population of a land into exile, and only those influential families who might stir up rebellion against the conqueror, and the artisans who made weapons. These captives formed a small minority in the communities where they settled, and being not very zealous Jews, religiously, they underwent a religious and social amalgamation with the foreign people. (It was different with Babylonian exiles of a century and a half later; they were zealous Jehovists, and were promised a return, so that they adhered to Judaism, lived together in Babylon, the prophetic activity continued, and some of them later returned to Jerusalem as a congregation.)

Those who were deported from the Northern kingdom were an insignificant number compared with the masses that remained, perhaps one-tenth. They were not tribes or large parts of tribes, but only individuals, or at most families. These persons were "lost" to be sure, but the tribes as such remained in Canaan, and absorbed the heathen settlers that were sent in. In later times the division into tribes signified little or nothing, the division into tribal territory was not regarded. In general, the Jew of the New Testament era knew as little from what tribe he came as does the modern Jew. Among modern Jews all these tribes, without any doubt, are their descendents. In other words, the "lost" tribes never have been and are not now "lost."

[Note: All Twelve Tribes were represented in Jerusalem at Pentecost in Acts chapter 2.]


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To: Cronos
Because the Restoration of the Kingdom of Israel teachings are so controversial I try to be able to have a scripture for any point I make. Looking at EZK 4:4-6 it answers your question.

(Ezek 4:4 KJV) Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.

(Ezek 4:5 KJV) For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.

(Ezek 4:6 KJV) And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

61 posted on 07/19/2008 3:59:36 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: Gamecock

Thanks for the map. This may help when I go see Journey to the Center of the Earth. :)


62 posted on 07/19/2008 4:19:37 AM PDT by ChessExpert (This enemy is more dangerous than any threat we faced in the 20th century, LTG Sanchez)
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To: Cronos
The book of Genesis answers all of your questions, scripture by scripture starting with Gen.13:16 Yahweh's call to Abram to leave his country and family. Gen. 15:1-6,
Gen17:3 and Gen 22:18. These scriptures initiate and show Yah’s ETERNAL plan and PROMISE in effect today 2008, where Yahweh said 1.Abraham's descendent's would be as many as the stars and sand. Yah says this 4X so we had better take notice! When Abraham believed this part of the promise it was accredited to him righteousness. (so this is a serious facet of the PROMISE) 2. Yah gave Abraham the land. 3. Yahweh said He would be a elohim to Abraham's descendent's forever. WOW!!!! WHAT A PROMISE. Why do we like Essau despise our BIRTHRIGHT!!! We won't even read the scriptures to find out because the “church” doesn't teach this so we won't bother to go search the scriptures for the truth.

No I do not endorse British Israelite WWCOG doctrine. It isn't scriptural. The tribes were scattered into ALL nations, red and yellow black and white. For Yahweh so loved the WHOLE WORLD that He gave His only begotten son...

I know these are radical teachings but when Yahshua came the first time He said you follow man's traditions and doctrines. He will accuse this generation, when He returns of the same thing. NOW IS THE TIME TO STUDY THE SCRIPTURES FOR YOURSELF!!! There is no man leading this movement. I came to these teachings on my own through study and revelation. I was as fundamental and evangelical as they come. I could out Baptist any Baptist. But I was a seeker of truth, a polygraph examiner by profession, trained in investigations. What I heard in church did not line up with Scriptures. I studies for years and the Father honored my seeking by revealing these teachings which shows His grand plan as revealed from Genesis to Revelation.

I could write for hours on these teachings to answer your questions. I am a Bible teacher and have put the basic Restoration of Israel teachings on a CD with a insert containing ALL of the Scriptures to back up these teachings, line upon line, precept upon precept. If anyone is interested in these teachings please privately reply to me and I will send you the CD free of charge. I challenge anyone to listen to this CD and check out every scripture and show me any error! I have made this challenge for years and NO ONE has been able to scripturally refute the teachings when studied in context and in completion. These teachings will change your life and deepen your faith walk.
If the Spirit is nudging you, I will be happy to send you the CD. No strings attached.

63 posted on 07/19/2008 4:27:25 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: Cronos

Read Genesis 49 and see what each tribe’s characteristics will be in the last days, which means they are alive and well in the last days. If you believe the Bible.

(Gen 49:1 KJV) And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

(Gen 49:2 KJV) Gather yourselves together, and hear, ye sons of Jacob; and hearken unto Israel your father.


64 posted on 07/19/2008 4:31:36 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: Cronos
The Arabs are descendent's of Ishmael who was promised 12 sons who would be like donkeys. Ishmael was the bastard son of Abraham and Haggar, Sarah's handmaiden. This was her cockeyed idea to produce a son for Abraham. At 13 yrs. old Sarah cast Haggar out of the camp. There has been conflict between the descendents of Isaac, who Yahweh says was Abraham's only son (Gen. 22) and the descendent's of Ishmael. Muslims believe the PROMISE belongs to Ishmael but Gen. 22 states 2x that Isaac was Abraham's only son.
65 posted on 07/19/2008 4:36:50 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: tang-soo

Just to jump in here. During the
Assyrian invasion there were people from each tribe who ran to the South into Judea for protection. So yes, there were Asherites, Gadites, Ephriamites etc. but the bulk of the people were carried off and assimilated into the Gentile world. They lost their identity just as Yahweh said they would in the book of Hosea. That was part of their punishment. It was Yahshua’s primary purpose to come to this world to REGATHER the house of Israel and restore the Kingdom of Israel. What was the apostles last question to Yahshua before He ascended? When are you going to RESTORE
the Kingdom of Israel? and what did Yahshua answer?

(Acts 1:7 KJV) And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

These are the times of Restoration. We are being given back our identity. We are being shown the paganism that infiltrated our Faith. We are going back to the Scriptures of the entire Bible to rediscover the Truths that the Father wants us to walk in. Today the call of Eliyah is going out make STRAIGHT your paths, the Messiah of ISRAEL returns. I fear the holy Scriptures far more than any doctrine of man.


66 posted on 07/19/2008 4:51:21 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: Cronos
We are Abraham's seed. We are Israelites., do you mean everyone? African-Americans? Japanese-Americans too?

YES! and if we are a “foreigner” without Abraham's DNA then the Torah said there were three conditions a person must meet to become an Israelite: 1. They must be circumcised. When we Gentiles became Believers scripture says our hearts were circumcised. 2. They must partake of the Passover. Yahshua is our Passover lamb and when we take communion we are partaking of that lamb. 3. They must walk with the Israelites, in the way of the Israelites. Unfortunately, church tradition and doctrines have kept Believers from walking in the faith walk of the Israelites commanded and taught by Yahweh in the first five books of the Bible so we fall very short in this directive from Yahweh. This is what we are trying to straighten out as Messianic Israelites or Believers who recognize the Restoration teachings.

67 posted on 07/19/2008 5:01:10 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: Cronos

Oh PS Abraham, Issac, Jacob and Moses WERE NOT JEWS!!!


68 posted on 07/19/2008 5:02:34 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: John Leland 1789

Correct on all counts.


69 posted on 07/19/2008 12:46:52 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: ladyL

Not disagreeing with any of your points, but many from the Northern Kingdom migrated to the Southern Kingdom well before the Assyrian invasion. Not from fear of conquest but because of the apostasy started in the Northern - the worshiping of idols in the “High Places” begun after the split by Jeroboam (I Kings 12).


70 posted on 07/19/2008 12:58:38 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Cronos
Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, etc. are all genetically similar to Jews. These are the primary descendants of the Israelites who would have been taken out of Israel.

So....according to your reasoning [Amos 9:9] is "Phony Baloney"! For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. God didn't really want them to migrate and cover the earth. He wanted them (the primary ones) all to stay in the Middle East. Balderdash!

Benjamin, Simeon were assimilated into Judah due to natural pressures for smaller similar groups to merge into larger, more powerful relatives. Ditto for Reuben merging into the similar culture of the Moabites.

Simeon was not assimilated into Judah. Benjamin was. [II Chronicles 11:1] And when Rehoboam was come to Jerusalem, he gathered of the house of Judah and Benjamin an hundred and fourscore thousand chosen men, which were warriors, to fight against Israel, that he might bring the kingdom again to Rehoboam. Judah and Benjamin at war against Israel! Simeon, at this time, is one of the ten tribes of the north....at war against Judah (Judah and Benjamin).

Simeon was one of four brothers by Jacob and Leah [Genesis 29:31-35]....Simeon, Reuben, Levi and Judah. Joshua took this into account when he allotted land to Simeon [Joshua 19:1] And the second lot came forth to Simeon, even for the tribe of the children of Simeon according to their families: and their inheritance was within the inheritance of the children of Judah. [Joshua 19:9] Out of the portion of the children of Judah was the inheritance of the children of Simeon: for the part of the children of Judah was too much for them: therefore the children of Simeon had their inheritance within the inheritance of them.

When Solomon continued in his sin God took ten tribes, leaving two tribes under the control of Solomon's son, Rehoboam. Jeroboam took control of the other ten: [I Kings 11:29-32] And it came to pass at that time when Jeroboam went out of Jerusalem, that the prophet Ahijah the Shilonite found him in the way; and he had clad himself with a new garment; and they two were alone in the field: And Ahijah caught the new garment that was on him, and rent it in twelve pieces: And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee: (But he shall have one tribe for my servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel:

Ditto for Reuben merging into the similar culture of the Moabites.

You know....you're not following scripture when you make statements like this. Reuben did not merge into Moab. We've gone over this before.... and I offered scripture as proof that Reuben was still around during the deportation to Assyria. You have chosen to ignore it and prattle on about a non existent melding of Reuben and the Moabites. Here is another. This time....why don't you acknowledge it and tell me (and the folks reading this thread) why scripture is in error here?

[1 Chronicles 5:1-6] Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel, (for he was the firstborn; but forasmuch as he defiled his father's bed, his birthright was given unto the sons of Joseph the son of Israel: and the genealogy is not to be reckoned after the birthright. For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph's:) The sons, I say, of Reuben the firstborn of Israel were, Hanoch, and Pallu, Hezron, and Carmi. The sons of Joel; Shemaiah his son, Gog his son, Shimei his son, Micah his son, Reaia his son, Baal his son, Beerah his son, whom Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria carried away captive: he was prince of the Reubenites.

It would be very difficult for the King of Assyria to carry away the Reubenites to exile and captivity if they had melded into Moabite culture and were no longer a viable entity with in Israelite culture. Wouldn't you agree?

You do realize that you are busy spouting Victorian theories brought forth by English in the late 1600s, fully thought up in the Victorian age to justify England's role in the world.

Don't confuse Biblical scripture with man made beliefs. I am no British Israelite!

71 posted on 07/19/2008 3:25:30 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: tang-soo
Not disagreeing with any of your points, but many from the Northern Kingdom migrated to the Southern Kingdom well before the Assyrian invasion. Not from fear of conquest but because of the apostasy started in the Northern - the worshiping of idols in the “High Places” begun after the split by Jeroboam (I Kings 12).

And they became know as Jews also....citizens of Judah. During the first century it was known as Judea. Here is the Biblical definition of Jews: The first time in scripture the word appears is [II Kings 16:6] At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day. Jews: 3064. Yhuwdiy (yeh-hoo-dee') a Jehudite (i.e. Judaite or Jew), or descendant of Jehudah (i.e. Judah) The first time the word Jews appears in the New Testament: [Matthew 2:2] Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. Jews: 2453. Ioudaios (ee-oo-dah'-yos) Judaean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah

The ten tribes of the north were never considered to be, or were called, Jews. This appellation belonged only to the citizens of the southern kingdom of Judah. This continued to the first century when the area was called Judea. That's why, when Our Lord directs the Apostles to their commission, He says....."Go to the Lost sheep of the House Of Israel" [Matthew 10:5-6]. He doesn't call them Jews. Jews were....and still are....only one of twelve distinct tribes that were the children of Israel. The folks who came south because of the sins of Jeroboam [ 2 Chronicles 11:13-17] became part of Judah....and were called Jews also.

Reading the Books of Ezra and Nehemiah that Chronicle the return of Judah (Jews) from their own captivity in Babylon 125 years after the exile of the ten tribes to Assyria, you will find no mention of any tribes other than Judah, Benjamin and Levi. You will see that Israelites are included in the population as the "Children of Israel" are mentioned quite a few times.....but the Jews (Judah, Benjamin and Levi) were also the Children of Israel as well.

72 posted on 07/19/2008 4:08:26 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: tang-soo
Yes, that's true. We really can't put any numbers to the population that went South and the ones who were carried off in the North.
What we can know with certainty is that Yah’s judgment came upon the whole House of Israel as stated in scripture. We also know that Yah told Jacob his descendent's would become a nation and a company of nations, Gen 35:9-12. He also said Abraham's decendents would be as many as the stars and sand uncountable. Well today there are 16 million Jews and approx. 230 million Ishmaelites. If Ishmael produced that many descendent's surely there are that many if not more descendent's of Isaac. So we have at least 230 million of Gentiles out there who have Abraham's DNA. So these are the only numbers I use to try to understand the Father's grand plan.
73 posted on 07/19/2008 5:00:10 PM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

A documentary lately traced some Jews who dispersed to Africa. It was an extremely interesting documentary. These Africans still abide by Jewish traditions that couldn’t have been taught to them by outsiders. Wish I could remember the name of it.


74 posted on 07/19/2008 6:48:18 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: John Leland 1789

I believe that was called the diaspora?


75 posted on 07/19/2008 6:50:26 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Cronos

and don’t forget those raping and pillaging Vikings. Lots of red hair there! Erik the Red comes to mind.


76 posted on 07/19/2008 6:52:09 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

Yes, the diaspora. It included the Jews to whom Paul preached during the acts period outside of the land of Israel.


77 posted on 07/20/2008 4:21:44 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
More fuel for the fire:

The United States and Britain in Bible Prophecy

It concentrates on the theory that the physical blessings promised by God to Abrahams descendents were to be primarily reaped by the the United States and Great Britain and that the descendent of the tribes that was heir to this promise (Ephraim and Manasseh) are concentrated primarily in these two countries.

78 posted on 07/20/2008 4:35:35 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Quix
Really? What's so preposterous? you said I wonder what some of the authors do with the 144,000 Israelite evangelists in the end times . . . 12,000 from each tribe? --> now the Jews are God's chosen people who have stayed true to God's word continuosly for millenia. So, as the chosen people, they should be the ones saved and 144,000 is far too small a number for all the Jewish holy men and women, but still they'll pick straws. So, as the select of the Chosen people, the 144,000 will all be Jews.
79 posted on 07/20/2008 5:03:37 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: ladyL
Let's see, you say:

(Ezek 4:4 KJV) Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.

A judgement by God at that point in time to let Ezekial demonstrate to the House of Israel in c. 800 B.C. of how long they HAD strayed. Past tense, as Ezekial demonstrated in his person on how long they HAD strayed

(Ezek 4:5 KJV) For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.

As you quote, God laid upon Ezekial, the years of their PAST iniquity converted into days. All PAST tense.

(Ezek 4:6 KJV) And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

And here Ezekial demonstrated the PAST iniquities of Judah

In both cases, they say that Israel strayed for 390 years BEFORE 800 B.C. and Judah strayed for 40 years BEFORE 800 B.C. (when Ezekial lived). It's very clear in Scripture that it is talking about what happened BEFORE Ezekial underwent this.
80 posted on 07/20/2008 5:08:55 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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