Posted on 08/22/2008 2:01:06 PM PDT by NYer
I was able to visit the Los Angeles Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels yesterday. More will be said on its architecture in a later post. However, I did visit the gift shop, which has many nice Catholic books and other things. The problem came when I began talking with a man who worked there. His customer service couldn't have been better. His shiny jewelry and over-the-top attitude was a bit off-putting, but it was California, after all. My friend was looking for a rosary for his girlfriend, and the store worker started asking him about her favorite colors, what kind of clothes she wore, what sort of textures she liked, etc., in order to help him pick a rosary that best agreed with her fashion sense. So far, very Californian, but not a big problem. Kind of HGTV: Rosary Edition.
Then he asked what I did for a living and I told him that I teach architecture and theology, and he said with a casual smile: "oh, that's great, my partner would love that. He was a monk for 4 years." Again, this was California, and maybe even the cathedral shop has legal issues about who it can hire and who it can't. Then I started talking to my friend about one of the architects who was a finalist for the cathedral design a few years back, whose architectural philosophy is radically anti-Incarnational and anti-Catholic, and the salesman said "well, everyone is welcome in this cathedral." Being cheeky, I said "how about Satanists?" He responded: "Satanists aren't devil worshipers, you know. I know some Satanists and they aren't devil worshipers." So, following up, I said: "OK, then what about devil worshipers? Are they welcome here at the cathedral?" He replied: "Well, devil worshipers are actually Christians, because God made the devil." Another woman in line chimed in with a smile: "that's right, God made the devil." I decided it was best to leave at that point.
Honestly, I couldn't have made this up. A staff member of the cathedral gift shop might be the first and only person a visitor might talk to who represents the cathedral, as it was in my case. And what do we get? A person who gladly flaunts his open defiance of the Church's moral teaching and has a positive view of devil worship.
Who's asleep at the wheel here?
The title is a stretch.
A real stretch. (Goooooofballs ....)
Only in California.
Grow a pair.
You're asleep at the wheel.
A really, really really BIG stretch.
Where did I miss this bit of theology: “Well, devil worshipers are actually Christians, because God made the devil.”
I guess my 1950’s Indiana Sunday school teachers were not just this theologically advanced!
He was right the first time. Well, it is California!
Could of well been Austin,TX.
And then Mike Huckabee innocently asked if the devil and Jesus were brothers...
Well you (the writer) answered your own question several times. It was Calimexihomoia in which the cathederal resides.
They do not follow or recognize the US Constitution why would you expect them to understand or follow the Bible or any other Church related doctrines?
I have found CMR to be very reliable...and I suggest that the bishop be contacted immediately about this. If that response is not what it should be...contact the Vatican....specifically the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal William Joseph Levada.
Note, often any warm body is accepted to work in such places without much attention paid to their background...maybe even more so on Mahoney’s watch. ;-/
Look ... I am NO fan of Mahony. I personally battled liturgical dance at my parish ... and won! But ...there are limits to what the Vatican can do. These abuses are not limited to the US but pervasive in other countries as well.
For some reason "Kafka" pops into my head when I see that.
And God threw the devil (fallen angel) out of heaven because of disobedience.
Wonder what these people’s excuse is.
Sickening story to say the least.
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