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Devil Worship Promoted at the Front Lines of the LA Cathedral (Catholic Caucus)
CMR ^ | August 22, 2008 | D Mac

Posted on 08/22/2008 2:01:06 PM PDT by NYer

I was able to visit the Los Angeles Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels yesterday. More will be said on its architecture in a later post. However, I did visit the gift shop, which has many nice Catholic books and other things. The problem came when I began talking with a man who worked there. His customer service couldn't have been better. His shiny jewelry and over-the-top attitude was a bit off-putting, but it was California, after all. My friend was looking for a rosary for his girlfriend, and the store worker started asking him about her favorite colors, what kind of clothes she wore, what sort of textures she liked, etc., in order to help him pick a rosary that best agreed with her fashion sense. So far, very Californian, but not a big problem. Kind of HGTV: Rosary Edition.

Then he asked what I did for a living and I told him that I teach architecture and theology, and he said with a casual smile: "oh, that's great, my partner would love that. He was a monk for 4 years." Again, this was California, and maybe even the cathedral shop has legal issues about who it can hire and who it can't. Then I started talking to my friend about one of the architects who was a finalist for the cathedral design a few years back, whose architectural philosophy is radically anti-Incarnational and anti-Catholic, and the salesman said "well, everyone is welcome in this cathedral." Being cheeky, I said "how about Satanists?" He responded: "Satanists aren't devil worshipers, you know. I know some Satanists and they aren't devil worshipers." So, following up, I said: "OK, then what about devil worshipers? Are they welcome here at the cathedral?" He replied: "Well, devil worshipers are actually Christians, because God made the devil." Another woman in line chimed in with a smile: "that's right, God made the devil." I decided it was best to leave at that point.

Honestly, I couldn't have made this up. A staff member of the cathedral gift shop might be the first and only person a visitor might talk to who represents the cathedral, as it was in my case. And what do we get? A person who gladly flaunts his open defiance of the Church's moral teaching and has a positive view of devil worship.

Who's asleep at the wheel here?


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: la; mahony; tajmahony
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1 posted on 08/22/2008 2:01:07 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

The title is a stretch.


2 posted on 08/22/2008 2:02:02 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

A real stretch. (Goooooofballs ....)


3 posted on 08/22/2008 2:03:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Obama: Can't kill the innocent fast enough, can't free the guilty soon enough!~ Diana in WI)
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To: NYer

Only in California.


4 posted on 08/22/2008 2:04:53 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: NYer
I decided it was best to leave at that point.

Grow a pair.

You're asleep at the wheel.

5 posted on 08/22/2008 2:05:01 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: NYer

A really, really really BIG stretch.


6 posted on 08/22/2008 2:06:15 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: zot; SeraphimApprentice

Where did I miss this bit of theology: “Well, devil worshipers are actually Christians, because God made the devil.”

I guess my 1950’s Indiana Sunday school teachers were not just this theologically advanced!


7 posted on 08/22/2008 2:09:41 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead (3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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To: NYer
O..........Kay...........! I am so glad I am no where near California.
8 posted on 08/22/2008 2:10:36 PM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow-RIP TONY, we love you.)
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To: NYer
He replied: "Well, devil worshipers are actually Christians..."

NO, THEY'RE NOT!!!
9 posted on 08/22/2008 2:12:49 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: NYer

He was right the first time. Well, it is California!

Could of well been Austin,TX.


10 posted on 08/22/2008 2:14:33 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: NYer
Another woman in line chimed in with a smile: "that's right, God made the devil."

And then Mike Huckabee innocently asked if the devil and Jesus were brothers...

11 posted on 08/22/2008 2:25:56 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (We have standards & tradition, otherwise we'd be little better than the DUmmies.)
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To: NYer

Well you (the writer) answered your own question several times. It was Calimexihomoia in which the cathederal resides.
They do not follow or recognize the US Constitution why would you expect them to understand or follow the Bible or any other Church related doctrines?


12 posted on 08/22/2008 3:03:36 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: NYer

I have found CMR to be very reliable...and I suggest that the bishop be contacted immediately about this. If that response is not what it should be...contact the Vatican....specifically the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal William Joseph Levada.

Note, often any warm body is accepted to work in such places without much attention paid to their background...maybe even more so on Mahoney’s watch. ;-/


13 posted on 08/22/2008 3:18:51 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: NYer


This picture was taken from the inside of the LA Cathedral by the LA Times during the opening ceremonies of the place.
14 posted on 08/22/2008 3:35:02 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: NYer
Who's asleep at the wheel here?

Asleep at the wheel? That would imply that it's simple nonfeasance that's responsible for the mess in LA. I maintain that it's active malfeasance.

Holy God, send us Catholic bishops to be our shepherds!
15 posted on 08/22/2008 3:47:29 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents give their children are siblings.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Dragon processing down the aisle during Mass, Chinese New Year at the Cathedral, 2004.


16 posted on 08/22/2008 3:59:55 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Dr. Sivana
This picture was taken from the inside of the LA Cathedral by the LA Times during the opening ceremonies of the place.

Look ... I am NO fan of Mahony. I personally battled liturgical dance at my parish ... and won! But ...there are limits to what the Vatican can do. These abuses are not limited to the US but pervasive in other countries as well.

Why Doesn't the Pope Do Something about "Bad" Bishops?

17 posted on 08/22/2008 4:05:40 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/02/19/keep-god-out-of-california/


18 posted on 08/22/2008 7:40:18 PM PDT by BaBaStooey ("Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light." Ephesians 5:14)
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To: NYer

For some reason "Kafka" pops into my head when I see that.

19 posted on 08/22/2008 7:58:12 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (A community in Chicago is missing an organizer.)
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To: GreyFriar

And God threw the devil (fallen angel) out of heaven because of disobedience.

Wonder what these people’s excuse is.

Sickening story to say the least.


20 posted on 08/22/2008 8:08:31 PM PDT by Salvation (<a href="http://www.universalis.com/20080821/vespers.htm">)
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