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Emergent church leader says 'gay' can be biblical lifestyle
WND ^ | Nov 23, 2008 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 11/23/2008 1:43:37 PM PST by driftdiver

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To: driftdiver
****In his "The New Christians" blog, Jones opens up a discussion and debate on the issue of homosexuality with his readers and with a fellow theologian/blogger, a self-described political conservative, Rod Dreher.****

Isn't Rod Dreher a writer for National Review? Or am I thinking of some one else. Feel like I've seen that name somewhere.

61 posted on 11/23/2008 4:42:23 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

“Isn’t Rod Dreher a writer for National Review?”

You are correct

http://www.nationalreview.com/dreher/dreher200311170844.asp


62 posted on 11/23/2008 4:44:09 PM PST by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: driftdiver

Well, it is portrayed in the Bible, so in that sense it could be considered a Biblical lifestyle. A Biblical lifestyle that ends in a spectacularly catastrophic fashion, to be sure, but a Biblical lifestyle.


63 posted on 11/23/2008 4:44:17 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: driftdiver

I had a friend that I had known all my life. Last January he decided he was gay, left his wife and 2 kids and adopted the homosexual lifestyle.

To that point he had been a practising Christian, and very devout. Now, I have absolutely no idea what he believes.

He is a different person. Since his “coming out” we have corresponded once, and it was like communicating with a stranger. Apparently he has “always been gay”.

I had no idea: in fact I find it hard to believe. My private theory is that someone put something in his food: maybe a “gay drug” or something like that.

I wish him well. If he lives a “fulfilling Christian life” well good luck to him: I have no way of knowing. It’s not obvious anyrate.


64 posted on 11/23/2008 4:50:02 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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I had no idea: in fact I find it hard to believe. My private theory is that someone put something in his food: maybe a “gay drug” or something like that.

Nothing satisfies like Possession.


65 posted on 11/23/2008 4:59:09 PM PST by theJoker
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To: theJoker

> Nothing satisfies like Possession.

(big grin!!)


66 posted on 11/23/2008 5:19:55 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: driftdiver

The Greeks and Romans I guess had a lot of shall I say, abnormal behaviors back then regarding sex.


67 posted on 11/23/2008 5:48:35 PM PST by RGPII
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‘The Greeks and Romans I guess had a lot of shall I say, abnormal behaviors back then regarding sex.”

Yep and we all know how it turned out for them.


68 posted on 11/23/2008 5:55:19 PM PST by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Old Sarge

ping


69 posted on 11/23/2008 6:00:32 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: PAR35

Don’t know who Pilla is. Fortunately, the sucessor of St Peter is there to try to put him back in line. But Pilla is one man, not an entire religion (though Protestantism is dying out).

Hey, let’s remember those pillars of Protestantism. Luther who joined a monastery to avoid marriage and had his ‘enlightenment’ in the outhouse (esp that he wanted to marry some nun). Or Henry VIII, who wanted a divorce. Or Elizabeth who ran the first totalitarian regime known to man. Yep, pillars of Christianisty.


70 posted on 11/23/2008 6:22:51 PM PST by sobieski
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To: driftdiver

“Emergent”, as in, emerging or coming out of the closet.


71 posted on 11/23/2008 6:23:47 PM PST by fishhound (America is failin' without Sarah Palin....working on a western song.)
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To: driftdiver

So he’s wrong.

Wouldn’t be the first time, I’m sure.


72 posted on 11/23/2008 6:25:44 PM PST by airborne
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To: driftdiver

ummm pardon my ignorance but why do they distinguish b/w “gay” and “queer”? What’s the difference?


73 posted on 11/23/2008 6:42:23 PM PST by jtal
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“ummm pardon my ignorance but why do they distinguish b/w “gay” and “queer”? What’s the difference?”

Cause anything they want is ok.


74 posted on 11/23/2008 6:43:36 PM PST by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Ask them to show a gay in any ministry or blessed position in the Bible. They’ll twist and turn and lie but there are none.”

Hey, they’ve already changed Sodom and Gomorrah to read the inhabitants were “inhospitable” instead of wicked, so I imagine they can twist just about anything.


75 posted on 11/23/2008 6:49:16 PM PST by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: driftdiver

Nothing to add here, most of these comments cover it pretty well. Technical question though, if someone can help me out. It used to be ‘gays and lesbians’, then they added bisexuals and then transexuals, now I see that ‘queers’ have ascended into the acronym. My question is - In what way is a ‘queer’ now differentiated with a regular gay person? (Just trying to keep up.)


76 posted on 11/23/2008 6:57:52 PM PST by Funee Kat
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“My question is - In what way is a ‘queer’ now differentiated with a regular gay person? (Just trying to keep up.)”

I think the gays are the men who try to act like men in every other way. Queers are the flaming ones.

Just a guess.


77 posted on 11/23/2008 7:04:02 PM PST by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: sobieski
Don’t know who Pilla is.

You've never heard of the former Bishop of Cleveland, who left office abruptly not because of his open mindedness about homosexuality, but because of financial irregularities? Try Google for Bishop.Pilla or bishop.anthony.pilla

78 posted on 11/23/2008 7:59:53 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

Jude 5Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

I guess that takes care of the inhospitality story! In fact the former inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah are now wishing that their present circunstances were more, well......hospitable.


79 posted on 11/24/2008 4:45:43 AM PST by Diapason
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To: LiteKeeper

“Emergent Church” = The Church of What’s Happ’n’ Now!


80 posted on 11/24/2008 8:27:26 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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