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Pope to Announce New Archbishop of New York
Newsmax ^ | 1/29/2009 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 02/02/2009 3:43:05 PM PST by markomalley

Pope Benedict XVI is set to announce a new Archbishop of New York to replace Cardinal Edward Egan, an informed Vatican source tells Newsmax.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source says the decision was made today and an announcement is expected “within the next week to ten days”. He says Cardinal Egan’s successor is from the “conservative and orthodox” wing of the Church.

Speculation on the next leader of the New York Archdiocese, one of the most important posts in the U.S. Roman Catholic Church, has been going on for some time among church-watchers.

Cardinal Egan, 76, submitted his resignation in 2007 when he reached the mandatory retirement age of 75, but the Pope asked him to stay on in the post. Many commentators saw Pope Benedict XVI’s visit to New York last year as a final farewell to the cardinal.

Names often cited as Egan’s possible successor include Archbishop Harry Mansell of Hartford, Archbishop Timothy Dolan of Milwaukee, Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta, Archbishop John Myers of Newark, Archbishop Roberto Gonzalez Nieves of San Juan.

Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, has also been named as a potential candidate in the past, however the new archbishop will not be him, according to the source.

The Pope has chosen an archbishop who is “dynamic, conservative and orthodox”, he says – traits which Vatican watchers say best match those of Archbishop Dolan. The 59 year old prelate is said to be good with the media, genuine, and intelligent. He also has Irish ancestry, a common characteristic of previous archbishops of New York.

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KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; egan; ny; nyc; vatican
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1 posted on 02/02/2009 3:43:06 PM PST by markomalley
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To: NYer; narses; Pyro7480; Coleus
The Pope has chosen an archbishop who is “dynamic, conservative and orthodox”, he says

Good news?

ping for your lists

2 posted on 02/02/2009 3:47:10 PM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley

YES!!!!! If he is INDEED conservative and orthodox!!! I LOVE THIS POPE!!


3 posted on 02/02/2009 3:49:45 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: markomalley
The Pope has chosen an archbishop who is “dynamic, conservative and orthodox”, he says
Good news?


Better news, I suppose, than if they were describing the new guy as "stagnant, liberal and heterodox."
4 posted on 02/02/2009 3:51:05 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: markomalley
Names often cited as Egan’s possible successor include Archbishop Harry Mansell of Hartford, Archbishop Timothy Dolan of Milwaukee, Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta, Archbishop John Myers of Newark, Archbishop Roberto Gonzalez Nieves of San Juan.

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The Pope has chosen an archbishop who is “dynamic, conservative and orthodox ...

Cognitive dissonance? But coming from Cardinal Levada who knows what this really means.

5 posted on 02/02/2009 3:51:39 PM PST by jtal
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To: markomalley
Names often cited as Egan’s possible successor include Archbishop Harry Mansell of Hartford, Archbishop Timothy Dolan of Milwaukee, Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta,

Wilton Gregory?? LOL. Hardly a pillar of the conservative/orthodox wing of the Church.

6 posted on 02/02/2009 3:54:40 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: markomalley; saradippity; Coleus; Patrick Madrid

Conservative/orthodox/

Archbishop Harry Mansell of Hartford, ?
Archbishop Timothy Dolan of Milwaukee, ?
Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta, Absolutely not!
Archbishop John Myers of Newark, ?
Archbishop Roberto Gonzalez Nieves of San Juan. ?

What are your opinions?


7 posted on 02/02/2009 3:55:44 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pgkdan
Wilton Gregory?? LOL. Hardly a pillar of the conservative/orthodox wing of the Church.

Think about the rumors of who would replace JPII...don't recall many prognosticators considering Joseph Ratzinger!

8 posted on 02/02/2009 3:59:31 PM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Salvation

Wilton Gregory happens to be black. If Gregory is named New York’s Archbishop, we’ll all have to endure weeks of hearing ONLY about the fact that Gregory is black. I really can’t listen to that stuff anymore. God spare us this, please.


9 posted on 02/02/2009 4:01:13 PM PST by utahagen
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To: markomalley

Actually a good number of us predicted Ratzinger.

Myers is pretty solid; Dolan’s okay. I don’t know about the rest of them.

I wish he’d choose Chaput, but since he’s a Westerner, I imagine that’s simply impossible.


10 posted on 02/02/2009 4:19:14 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: markomalley; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
He says Cardinal Egan’s successor is from the “conservative and orthodox” wing of the Church.

You have given a hat tip to Patrick Madrid. Is this the answer to his request for prayer, yesterday? I'm very confused. However, if what he says is true, then I have only one word that needs to be expressed.

Allelulia!

11 posted on 02/02/2009 4:20:22 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: markomalley; NYer; Salvation

This is EXACTLY what is needed in New York.


12 posted on 02/02/2009 4:22:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

I doubt that the anticipated event had anything to do with retirement of a bishop, judging by the way it was played up so dramatically.

Egan was kind of middle of the road in terms of tradition and orthodoxy, right?


13 posted on 02/02/2009 4:24:37 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: markomalley
The Pope has chosen an archbishop who is “dynamic, conservative and orthodox”, he says – traits which Vatican watchers say best match those of Archbishop Dolan.

Oh ... please let this be true! In his favor are the increasing number of bishops in this jurisdiction that are very liberal and will soon be retiring. What better successor to Cardinal O'Connor than Archbishop Dolan!

14 posted on 02/02/2009 4:25:27 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: utahagen; Salvation
Wilton Gregory happens to be black. If Gregory is named New York’s Archbishop, we’ll all have to endure weeks of hearing ONLY about the fact that Gregory is black. I really can’t listen to that stuff anymore. God spare us this, please.

ROFL ..... Only those of us who have suffered through and endured the miserable bishops assigned to NY can truly appreciate how the media would have a 'hay day' over such an announcement. Let's pray that Egan's successor is Dolan or one like him. After 50+ years of liberal leadership, I don't think we can endure much more.

15 posted on 02/02/2009 4:29:12 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer
You have given a hat tip to Patrick Madrid. Is this the answer to his request for prayer, yesterday?

Nope. 'Twas referenced on a separate post on his blog. To the best of my knowledge, there is no relation between the two.

16 posted on 02/02/2009 4:30:21 PM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley

Come Holy Spirit and Fill the Hearts of Your Faithfull . . .


17 posted on 02/02/2009 4:39:34 PM PST by mgist (Thus in Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hear)
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To: annalex
Egan was kind of middle of the road in terms of tradition and orthodoxy, right?

Absolutely. He was no Cardinal O'Connor or Spellman. For the most part, NYS has some 'way out there, ultra liberal' bishops who need a good smackdown. I don't imagine the new Archbishop would react so quickly but we can be certain that he will hold them in check until they retire.

Countdown Clock until Bishop Hubbard's Retirement

18 posted on 02/02/2009 4:40:38 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Houghton M.

A real conservative choice would be Bishop Vasa!


19 posted on 02/02/2009 4:40:49 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

** Let’s pray that Egan’s successor is Dolan or one like him.***

All I can say is AMEN!


20 posted on 02/02/2009 4:43:46 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: utahagen

Whaddya mean? It would be HISTORIC!


21 posted on 02/02/2009 4:49:44 PM PST by firebrand
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To: NYer

“conservative and orthodox” wing?

What other wing is there besides the separated wing?


22 posted on 02/02/2009 4:51:34 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (If you defend baby-killing in this life, you will have no defense in the after-life.)
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To: NYer

Bishop Hubbard in Albany has been a disaster — as you know, too well! — and Matthews in Rochester have been disasters, so I think the Pope will not appoint a lefty to New York.


23 posted on 02/02/2009 5:09:45 PM PST by utahagen
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To: pgkdan
Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta,

. . . we can only hope . . . .

My dad used to say that the only way to get rid of certain politicians was to kick them upstairs to Washington D.C., but New York would certainly be far enough away.

Abp. Gregory is not a really good fit for Atlanta.

24 posted on 02/02/2009 5:48:27 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: markomalley; saradippity; Coleus; Patrick Madrid; NYer

I thought I read on a FR thread that it may be bishop serratelli from the paterson, nj diocese. Did nyer or someone else post it? or did I read it in the newspaper.


25 posted on 02/02/2009 5:49:58 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: markomalley

Prayers,prayers, prayers.


26 posted on 02/02/2009 5:53:47 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Salvation

The archbishops you listed were mainly silent on the abortion issue.How about someone like Archbishop Chaput?I hope Archbishop Burke has a lot to say in the new appointment.


27 posted on 02/02/2009 5:57:15 PM PST by ardara
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He says Cardinal Egan’s successor is from the “conservative and orthodox” wing of the Church.

Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta

Pentin contradicts himself.

28 posted on 02/02/2009 5:58:14 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: ardara

Chaput is not that conservative or orthodox; re his not so covert suppression of Summorum Pontificum in the Archdiocese of Denver as only one example.


29 posted on 02/02/2009 6:01:29 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Archbishop Chaput has been one of the bishops who has spoken out publically on issues of importance to traditional Catholics.


30 posted on 02/02/2009 6:05:42 PM PST by ardara
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To: ardara

Do you live in his Archdiocese and have you spoken to him personally or are you basing your opinion on what you’ve read about him?


31 posted on 02/02/2009 6:07:57 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Salvation

Mansell is not conservative, he presided over, supported and, insured the liberalization of the only Catholic seminary in western NY (Christ the King).
I was a lay student there and a fried of mine was getting his M. Div for his Unitarian universalist church.
Frequently he and I were the ones explaining and defending authentic Catholic teaching to seminarians studying for the priesthood.


32 posted on 02/02/2009 6:10:10 PM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Put up a better name than Archbishop Chaput or for that matter Archbishop Burke.


33 posted on 02/02/2009 6:13:35 PM PST by ardara
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To: NYer

This could not be related to the earlier thread, which said BAD news was coming soon regarding a prominent church leader. I take that to mean either a serious illness or a scandal. This is neither.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2176113/posts?page=1#1


34 posted on 02/02/2009 6:45:54 PM PST by Deo volente (High Noon, January 20, 2009: Our long national nightmare begins.)
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To: ardara
Bruskewitz, Sheridan and Conley for starters.

Now answer the questions I posed to you.

35 posted on 02/02/2009 7:26:56 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Salvation

Which candidate is 59 years old?


36 posted on 02/02/2009 7:38:11 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church

Archbishop Dolan turns 59 on Friday: http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bdolan.html

Archbishop Gonzales Nieves is 58 1/2.


37 posted on 02/02/2009 10:36:59 PM PST by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: ardara; Coleus
Archnishop Serratelli that Coleus mentioned above was NOT silent on the abortion issue.

Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Patterson

38 posted on 02/02/2009 10:43:43 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ardara

These bishops came much later in that list of over 100 Bishops who spoke out about life being the primary issue in the election.

Archbishop Wilton Gregory georgiabulletin.org ...

Archbishop Dolan http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/32482989.html.


39 posted on 02/02/2009 10:47:25 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ardara

Burke is in Rome.


40 posted on 02/02/2009 10:49:13 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

This is helpful to learn more about the bishop’s lineage, such as which diocese they are from, who ordained them, etc.:

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/country/us.html


41 posted on 02/03/2009 5:03:47 AM PST by dangus
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To: Salvation

Abp Mansell of Hartford, 71: originally from Diocese of New York, consecrated by John Paull II himself, with Cdl. Rigali (very orthodox US Abp) and Cdl. Re (head of congregation of bishops). That’s about as top-line as you’re going to get, but wasn’t too young (55).

Abp Dolan of Milwaukee, 58: from St. Louis. At 44, he was made rector of the Pontifical College of North America. At 51, he was made Aux. bishop of St. Louis, and only a year later, archbishop of Milwaukee, in 2002. He was consecrated by Cdl Rigali, Abp Naumann (KC) and Bp Sheridan (Col Spr), both conservatives from Rigali’s tutelage (sp?).

Abp Myers of Newark, 67: from Peoria. Conservative. Consecrated by O’Rourke of Peoria, and not by his archbishop, the Don of the Lavendar Mafia, Cdl. Bernadin, so that’s some interesting polictics there? Co-consercrated by Cdl. Wuehrl of DC, who some seem to playing up into a national primate.

Abp Nieves of San Juan, 58. From Elizabeth, NJ. Don’t know much about him, but his origins are interesting; he’s Abp of Puerto Rico, where many New York Catholics are from, but he’s from the NY metro area. Consecrated by faux-conservative pedophile-protector Cdl Law of Boston, co-consecrated by the heroic Cdl O’Connor of NY, and Cdl. Aponte Martinez of... San Juan? Question: If Benedict was so hot on this guy, wouldn’t he have gotten Martinez’ red hat? (But them who knew San Juan had a cardinal?)

Abp Wilton Gregory, of Atlanta, 61. AAARGH! Consecrated by Scarlet Bernadin of Chicago
No seriously, folks... I just don’t see it. There’s no way this is consistent with picking a conservative, and if Benedict wanted someone to represent the minorities of NY (and I have no basis to think that Benedict thinks so politically correctly), wouldn’t Gonzalez make a better choice?


42 posted on 02/03/2009 5:36:14 AM PST by dangus
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To: markomalley

again?


43 posted on 02/03/2009 5:37:22 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (radically conservative.)
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To: wagglebee
This is EXACTLY what is needed in New York.

Cardinal Egan is respected here.

44 posted on 02/03/2009 5:38:55 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (radically conservative.)
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To: annalex

Egan was a lot more conservative than people give him credit for. But he came in amidst scandals in New York and his own former diocese, so had little credibility, with the left or the right. He busted some heads for orthodoxy’s sake, fueling the left’s scandal-mongering, but the right was too suspicious to champion him.

If you can picture John McCain winning the last election, and now the current economic crisis, you can maybe get a sense of the boat Egan was in. But whereas we’d all expect McCain to run to the left, Egan did not.

If there was one thing he lacked, it was the charm to get out in front of the cameras and be loved, like John Paul or Cardinal O’Connor; to play enforcer when people don’t find it otherwise easy to warm up to you is so much more difficult, and it’s easy to stir accusations that you don’t just don’t have a loving heart. But it makes the persistence all the more an act of charity.


45 posted on 02/03/2009 5:46:44 AM PST by dangus
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To: Salvation

***He also has Irish ancestry***

That removes several from the list. Is “Dolan” Irish?


46 posted on 02/03/2009 6:09:56 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Blessed Martyrs of Compiegne, Pray for Us!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I know that Cardinal Egan is respected, but I think it is necessary to replace him with someone as orthodox and conservative as possible.


47 posted on 02/03/2009 6:38:35 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: dangus

Thank you — what a fine description.


48 posted on 02/03/2009 7:32:51 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: NYer
You have given a hat tip to Patrick Madrid. Is this the answer to his request for prayer, yesterday?

I think it could be this, from American Papist:

Legionaries founder Maciel fathered children, could be renounced as spiritual founder

49 posted on 02/03/2009 8:01:46 AM PST by Lorica
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To: markomalley

I say Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City.


50 posted on 02/03/2009 5:41:47 PM PST by Carolina
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