Posted on 03/18/2009 4:12:59 AM PDT by Colofornian
It’s hard to say who started the “proselyting.” Today I posted an article from your own LDS site to refute another article posted by one of your own.
Most of our opposition posts are posts directly from LDS publications. That people have problems with your doctrine is evident by the discussions these articles produce.
To the LDS Church - - Call back your 60,000 missionaries telling unsuspecting individuals that you are the “only true Christianity” and that all others are corrupt. Quit posting half-truths about your own doctrinal positions, then, and only then can we can stop trying to refute you - round and round we go.
If you and your ilk would stop the Mormon-bashing, and accept us as your allies and equals in the fight against the Leftist threat
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I dont think anyone here stopped you from any “fight against the Leftist threat”
Is there a post here that includes those words ???
You dont have to belong to a Western religion to fight against any “Leftist threat”
Buddists, atheists etc in many countries, including the US fight against communism, marxism, etc...
In those other countries they are murdered every day...
However, I dont think this thread is about fighting off Leftists...
Your gripes with Mormons are well known. That you view FR as the place to try to stop our missionary program is counterproductive to promoting conservative unity.
I doubt that to be a fact. The mandate of mormons is to proselytize wherever an opportunity is found. I somehow don't believe you speak for other mormons on the site.
I have stated often that until the mormon church stops sending out 60,000+ missionaries every year, plus the TV and internet commercials, Christians will rebut the mormon message that "all other faiths are abominations".
You are correct, it's JR's decision.
The only reason that Mormons began posting positive stuff was the constant drumbeat of bashing. If conservatives can’t work together on the things we agree on, without insulting what others hold sacred, we will always lose.
Threads about Mormon doctrine always end up with very little doctrine. Instead they are filled with outrage at anyone daring to state their doctrine on a public forum or on some tiny detail about the spirit babies or the Heavenly Mother or the original planet that our God is from and what His home address was.
Well, when it comes to setting cultural priorities, who are we going to follow...a lackey named Mr. Jeeves? Or Jesus and Paul? Here's Jesus:
"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)
So does Jesus say, "fear the raiders of the lost country?" and "fear the communists?" (No) Does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes) So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk.
...wasting time on FR labeling an important group of potential allies against them as "heretics".
You know, I could probably guess that the folks who the apostle Paul warned the church @ Ephesus about had the bulk in common with the sheep there. So, did Paul play the "allies" game you're playing then? (No)
As Paul was leaving the church of Ephesus, he warned them with this high-priority alert:
"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." (Acts 20:29-31)
Tell me something, Jeeves: If you did something tearfully night and day for three years, do you think it's rather important? So what? We're just to conclude, "Oh, the man who contributed a good chunk to the New Testament -- what does he know about cultural priorities?"
I'll take Paul's and Jesus' already-revealed priorities to your guesswork based upon bashing us as O supporters.
Romney supporters on this site have made it a practice to insult any and everyone seen as a threat to Romney's goal to attain power, from the wife of Fred Thompson to the children of Sarah Palin.
Oh no! You said "cult"!
I got interested in these threads when a mormon called me a “triniterian” as though it were an N-word.. and bashed my Christian beliefs...
I have also been called a “feminist” by mormons because I have stated that I believe that Jesus died to give women salvation as well as men, and that I do not need my husband to decide whether or not I end up in Heaven...
In short...I have been bashed by the mormons for being a Christian...
Actually, ll, the FLDS are much more morally conservative than regular Mormons. Is it because their numbers are so small that they are to be excluded from political consideration?
Mormons represent 1% of the population. Even if 100% of Mormons WERE conservative that would only be 2%. Most of those numbers live in Utah where there are only 3 house seats. Mormon influence in politics should be almost nil, but you Mormons keep reminding us conservative about how “important” you are to our viability.
Who profits more from our symbiotic relationship? The Mormons or the Conservatives? I contend that it is indeed Mormonism that feeds off conservatism and not the other way round.
That Mormons use FR as a means of furthering their own missionary program is enough to keep me here refuting them. That Mormons themselves come here telling us how “good” they are, how important they are, and how we can’t withold our support from their politicians because we “hate” tham is enough for me to stand in the public square and denounce their contention. That some Mormons continue their disgusting habit of Lying for the Lord is enough to keep me proclaiming the truth.
I make a promise to you. If Mormons quit proselyting on FR, I will quit refuting them.
OK, did you really read the excerpt of what was threaded? The column itself, while yes -- it dealt directly with Mormon doctrine -- wasn't simply about something quite obscure...unless you think using fetuses for spare parts or embryonic stem cells for research is obscure.
This was also about a current social issue in which embryos are at risk.
In addition, if you don't like daily newspapers like the Mormon Times -- part of the Utah-based Deseret News -- running clips about Orin Hatch's liberal position on embryonic stem cell research based upon the LDS church's doctrinal stance, then by all means...write them. Tell them that. Tell them that you don't think the LDS church's liberal position on this should be informing such views of the sanctity of life.
(My role was simply posting a column excerpt from today's newspaper.)
Exposing your coverup is not bashing. Refusing to keep you dark secrets is not persecution.
Conservatism is not an offshoot of mormonism, it is a result of Christianity. Conservative unity is threatened because we have allowed infiltrators in who are constantly dumbing it down. Mormons are attempting to do the same thing to Christianity. I will be present to do my part to stop both attacks.
"Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." FLDS/LDS Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167
"The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God." FLDS/LDS Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:171
"Now, if we take Mahometanism during those dark ages, and the corruptions that are so universally prevalent over the earth, and the idolatrous systems of religion, falsely called Christianity, and weigh them in a balance; with all my education in favor of Christian nations and Christian powers, and Christian institutions, so called, with all my prejudices of early youth, and habits of thought and reading, my rational faculties would compel me to admit that the Mahometan history and Mahometan doctrine was a standard raised against the most corrupt and abominable idolatry that over perverted our earth, found in the creeds and worship of Christians" – Apostle Parley P. Pratt, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p.40
Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
So, we are expendable? We weren’t expendable in the fight against Prop. 8, were we?
Again, I have communicated with the posters who habitually post the pro-Mormon stuff. I know they are only doing it because you and your ilk are constantly attacking us.
(Hey, I'm merely the poster...I didn't write the headline "LDS Beliefs in Focus" -- a Mormon did. If you don't like that headline appearing online today, then please...be consistent and e-mail the Mormon Times, produced by the Deseret News...why is it too many LDS seemingly always want to "shoot" the newspaper delivery boys over what the writers & editors published?)
Oh, as for your labeling of "anti" -- well, you are a well-known protagonist -- a protag. (Stop labeling us all apostates, please)
Did you fight Prop 8 for us? Or did you do it for the sake of your “eternal Temple marriages”. You couldn’t have the possibility have to open your “sacred not secret” LDS Temples in California to gay marriage.
As I said, who is using who.
I am in constant communication with the habitual other side. They’ve said the same thing.
We weren’t expendable in the fight against Prop. 8, were we?
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You havent won it yet...
The CA courts could still throw it out...
Pity that the mormons had not considered themselves to not be “expendable in the fight against” Obama last November...
Where were they then in “the fight against the Leftists” ???
AWOL ???
Questions are often used as a way to misdirect the thoughts of readers.
The way you worded your series of questions is a classic example of this kind of thought guidance.
And the way you avoid putting yourself on the spot is another observed evidence leading me to the conclusion that your questions are used to guide thought and not used as a way to create discussion.
And this is not mind reading, it is the my conclusion based on how you do what you do here at FR.
You’re right!
I forgot how Nevada was highly supportive of Romney, but one he was gone it swung heavly to Obama. Even Utah voted in greater proportions for Obama than they had voted for any democrat in recent memory.
Kind of like, “I’m taking my ball and going home.” Support Romney or else!
There is nothing of God in your posts - just a human ego that needs to feel itself part of an “in-group” so it can look down on an “out-group”.
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