Let me get this straight: Lds think man has been...
(1) as eternal as its god – that “intelligences” self-exist from eternity past (LDS Doctrine & Covenants 93:29,33).
(2) Then somehow these intelligences, who were beginningless, had “beginnings” as spirit babies of a god & goddess in some “pre-existence.”
(3) Then the spirit baby fully matured in the “pre-existence.”
(4) Then it came to pass that this spirit baby passed down an earthly birth canal. This time to a second set of parents (humans on earth).
(5) Oh. But the LDS general authorities, according to their own complex belief system, conclude that it ”takes no definitive view of when...” this “intelligence-baby spirit-fully matured spirit-now-embryo" has ”acquired a soul.”
Oh. Just Oh.
(If these entities "birthed" in heaven have no soul, what are they?)
An intellectual conundrum.
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Oh. I beliefs in Jesus.
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Hum, come to think about it if they did the former I bet they would not need the latter since upon actually seeing what they had bought into they would leave the church...
And how would they know that. Sounds like some heehawing to me.
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You have done a good job of misdirecting folks with your questions.
And you were able to do it by asking misleading questions instead of saying this is your belief.
Do you believe the way your questions portray the life before this life is what the LDS Church teaches?
Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, Father God. The Holy Trinity. This is the true faith. Mormons & LDS as revealed by Mr. J. Smith is simply a man-god constructed cult. Cult. again.. cult.
Am I wrong in thinking that mormons believe if a baby is aborted, the spirit of the dead child just goes back to the celestrial nursery and into another baby ???
The question is when a preexisting soul is assigned to a particular body.
It is a biological fact that something like 25% of all fertilized eggs never implant. They are simply discarded. Does each of those fertilized eggs have a soul? Are each of those fertilized eggs thus doomed for eternity because they were never born, never baptized, and never accepted Jesus?
Our Church says that the moment of “ensoulment,” for want of a better word, is not known.
Having said that, I don’t know that Orrin Hatch’s view of stem cell research matches the view of the majority of Mormons. If he believes that it’s okay to create embryos for research, it sure doesn’t match mine.
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Posts like this are doing Obama's work for him.
Threads about Mormon doctrine always end up with very little doctrine. Instead they are filled with outrage at anyone daring to state their doctrine on a public forum or on some tiny detail about the spirit babies or the Heavenly Mother or the original planet that our God is from and what His home address was.
Very interesting. A friend of mine was threatened with disfellowship about 15 years ago because he decided to have surgery for Parkinson’s disease that involved embryonic stem cells. His bishop said that the use of embryonic stem cells was against the LDS faith. He asked me for my opinion since he really wanted to try the surgery (and was a good candidate) but didn’t want to go against the Church.