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Remembering Columbine victim Rachel Scott
Today ^ | April 20, 2009 | anon

Posted on 04/26/2009 6:40:01 PM PDT by BlackVeil

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To: Sir Clancelot

While Cassie wasn’t asked, I do believe Rachel was asked, though the original source of that story has recanted his account of Rachel’s being asked if she was a Christian.


21 posted on 04/26/2009 7:18:54 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Sir Clancelot
****I didn’t hear this from the media.****

It was pretty heavily reported on much of the media. The story came out maybe a few days after the shooting. I know with time people tend to forget this but the story that Cassie Bernall, Rachael Scott and another girl who survived being shot was pretty heavily reported atleast in the Denver papers and much of the conservative christian media.

22 posted on 04/26/2009 7:22:12 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: Theo

As far as the Cassie Bernall story there are people who say she was asked and there are people who say she wasn’t. Of course back then I noted that atheist.com jumped all over the story that she wasn’t asked. The poem she wrote the day before she was killed has always been inspiring for me. I have it written in my Bible.


23 posted on 04/26/2009 7:25:27 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: BlackVeil

The “police” did an AWFUL job at Columbine. They waited till the shooters murdered all they could, and then killed themselves, before counter-attacking. They thus let MANY victims bleed to death, would WOULD have lived, otherwise.
But the worst is thia! NOTE: The 2nd Amendment is SELF-incorporated to all government entities at every level. It is MORE ABSOLUTE than the 1st Amendment, or any of the others, because the wording forbids not only CONGRESS, but ANYONE from infringing on it. The 1st says “Congress shall make no law...”. The 2nd say “shall NOT be infringed!” Period! End of debate!


24 posted on 04/26/2009 7:46:56 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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I’m sorry. We don’t have the ability to edit posts.

Wow. On purpose? No after the fact editing is one thing I don't like about FR's system.

Anyway, here's the title, sans quotation: 10 years later, the real story behind Columbine.

25 posted on 04/26/2009 7:47:50 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Frantzie
Rule number one in my book is start lobbing in tear gas ASAP and have the fire department ready too.

Yeah, that always works.

26 posted on 04/26/2009 8:01:23 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: yarddog

unfortunately...this has been long proven false. Rachel was outside the school and was shot along with another boy as the two murderers were entering the school..rachel and the other boy, Richard Castaldo, were sitting outside on a hill by the entrance and were gunned down...the other is also false..D. Klebold (one of the murderers) asked another girl who was sitting outside of one of the desks in the library if she believed in God..she said “yes”..he asked why to which she replied something like “because that is how I was brought up”..Dylan just laughed at her and walked away..probably because he was still in shock from breaking his own nose due to the recoil of one of his guns after shooting and killing the girl under the desk who many attribute the ‘God Question’ to...due to the confusion survivors had attributed it to Cassie Bernall (the girl killed under the desk) but she was already dead when Kleboled asked the question to the other girl, Valeen Schnurr. “Authorities” have let it go, in a sense, as the initial reports of Cassie saying “yes” to Klebold’s question gave an ailing community Hope in a time of grief. I have spent the last 10 years researching Columbine. A major misconception is that Dylan and Eric target certain groups, religions, etc. That is VERY false...they wanted to kill every and anyone they could...the initial plan was to kill 500 in the cafeteria with homeade propane bombs and cocktails and gun down survivors as they fled...when the bombs failed to go off, they entered the school and began manually doing the killings. Attributing any reason other than insanity and madness to why these animals did that is to miss what truly happened.
RIP to the 12 students and 1 teacher murdered by sick cowards on 4/20/99


27 posted on 04/26/2009 8:33:26 PM PDT by wheresmycheckbarry?
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To: IronJack

The Media played up a connection that never existed. 10 yrs later, the fake connection as well as speculation that Harris and Klebold were “bullied” is still false and still being perpetuated.


28 posted on 04/26/2009 8:36:26 PM PDT by Twink
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To: IronJack

She wasn’t martyred for her Faith.


29 posted on 04/26/2009 8:37:15 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Frantzie

Here we go again. Blame everyone but the murderers. Makes everyone feel all nice and fuzzy blaming everyone but those who did the actual killing.


30 posted on 04/26/2009 8:38:52 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Sir Clancelot

Yep. She was the “original” martyr. That proved false also. Same with the black football player the media tried to push as being killed because he was “black.”


31 posted on 04/26/2009 8:40:46 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Sir Clancelot

Also proved false after the investigation. They didn’t target her for her faith.


32 posted on 04/26/2009 8:43:26 PM PDT by Twink
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To: yarddog

None of the students were killed because of their faith. They were killed because two nut jobs murdered them and 11 other people.

The agenda of the left was to push for more gun restrictions for law abiding citizens. The agenda of some of the right seems to be to use this as a part of their own agenda.

2 screwed up people murdered 13 others and then being the cowards they are, killed themselves.

You all can blame the cops, blame the parents, blame the faith of a couple students, trying to make them martyrs, blame some kind of bullying that didn’t exist. Fact is 2 really screwed up guys, murdered 13 people then killed themselves.


33 posted on 04/26/2009 8:48:35 PM PDT by Twink
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To: wheresmycheckbarry?

Nothing you have pointed out in any way precludes that they were in fact asked if they were Christian. I know one student said Rachel was asked as he said so on TV and I saw him say it. Another student who was nearby said he didn’t hear that but that doesn’t prove anything. Just that he didn’t hear that conversation doesn’ mean it didn’t happen.


34 posted on 04/26/2009 8:50:26 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Sir Clancelot

It was one of the first things reported by the MSM as well as the black athlete being killed because he was black. All was proven false. Harris and Klebold wanted to kill as many people as they could, some even in their social group. It has also been reported that Harris and Klebold were bullied throughout school and that has also been proven false.


35 posted on 04/26/2009 8:56:46 PM PDT by Twink
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
The story came out maybe a few days after the shooting.

It actually came out that same day. A lot came out during the event and through the same day (on Denver TV anyway) that later turned out to be exactly right. I've learned to trust what I hear first from people who are on the scene of an event, not what comes out later after the media gets their hands on it.


36 posted on 04/26/2009 8:59:19 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: 2harddrive

So wrong. The officers followed policy/orders. Do you think they didn’t want to go in, guns blazing? Most were dead by the time cops and swat arrived. That teacher was still alive and bleeding out, but they couldn’t go in because they didn’t know how many shooters. And that one kid who threw himself out the window? Tell me exactly how those cops, who did help him, could have known whether or not he was one of the shooters.

Armchair quarterbacks, armchair cops. I’m just happy you all don’t slam our military like you do the cops.


37 posted on 04/26/2009 9:01:39 PM PDT by Twink
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To: USNBandit

Heaven forbid the firefighters are forbidden by their superiors per policy to go into a burning building. I’d hate to the hate on here about firefighters.


38 posted on 04/26/2009 9:02:55 PM PDT by Twink
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To: yarddog

not gonna argue..other than this...Rachel had ZERO time to be asked any questions..she was the first killed..before they even entered the school...Cassie was dead before he asked the question. I’m a Believer...and I’m thankful I’ll get to meet the girls one day in the Perfection and Glory of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ..HOWEVER, as stated before, I have spent the last 10 years researching Columbine and have interviewed 7 survivors from the library including the girl who was under the desk with Cassie as she was killed by Klebold....Cassie was not the girl asked the question....Klebold bent under the table, said “Peek a Boo” and shot her point blank....the recoil of the gun broke his nose and he was bleeding profusely...the girl outside of the desk was saying “oh God Oh God” over and over again..to which Klebold asked the infamous question and exchange as stated previously..but due to the fact that he was stunned from breaking his own nose and bleeding everywhere he simply told her “that’s pathetic” or something of the like, then proceeded to the library windows with Eric Harris and fired a few more shots at the police officers...Cassie was already perfected in Heaven by this time.


39 posted on 04/26/2009 9:03:21 PM PDT by wheresmycheckbarry?
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To: wheresmycheckbarry?
Rachel had ZERO time to be asked any questions

I don't know if she was asked a question, but she DID have time to speak. One of the wounded students testified that one of the killers spoke to her (as she lay on the ground) before shooting her, and she spoke back. The boy who was wounded has refused to talk about what he heard.


40 posted on 04/26/2009 9:06:28 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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