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I cant believe how dumb people are.
Jesus said that the CHURCH should be the head of all things
NOT the State
When people brought all their belongings in to live as common, they brought their goods to the Apostles, NOT the Romans
This isn’t a new effort, they’ve been creeping up through the main denominations for decades.
I will say this again:
If Jesus returned right now, he wouldn’t go anyplace NEAR Washington, DC.
Very few Priests know anything about economics, and even less about Subsidiarity, though the concept IS in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Very few people understand the doctrine of Subsidiarity, but Socialism is CONTRARY to Christianity.
Christians are to differentiate themselves from the world (others, different from then, unsaved), put a wall around themselves, come out from among them, and preach/teach them into heaven, salvation
None of which was ever really questioned nor hated (on as mass a scale as witnesed today) until more recent times.
We're supposed to love our enemies (not kiss them), but make the academic, intellectual decision to accept them as God's creation but not necesarilly His children.
Is any one else gettibng sick and tired of this old crap?
Socialism is a manmade politic system contruct. It is of the world, not of the WORD.
So as it has always been the answer to the silly question is NO.
So the left goes from arguing Jesus didn’t exist, to Jesus wasn’t killing by the Romans, to Jesus wasn’t raised, to Jesus was a socialist.
Cmon stop already my head is spinning.
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Early Christians were communal, but with a belief in God, obviously, unlike Communists.
Have a nice life!
Wasn’t there a man and wife who died instantly when they didn’t give 100% of their money to the Apostles? That’s taxation Democrats would love (not applicable to themselves, of course).
No, Christ would not have approved of socialism in any way shape or form. A system whereby individuals earn their pay and the legal structure fights immorality and abuses would be His preference, I would imagine. One of the 19th century popes, Leo XIII, laid it out beautifully in an encyclical, Rerum Novarum in 1891 (http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13rerum.htm). I really wish all Catholics knew this.
He didn't take the rich-man’s fortune, he gave that choice to the owner of the fortune, thus justifying private property.
And the tithe was based upon a tax base that considered anything higher than 3% to be obscene.
The entire notion of “being a good steward” to strengthen your family and to be an asset to your community runs directly in the face of the government confiscating your earnings, making you dependent upon the government, and then blowing that money through socialized programs that inevitably fail and destroy the ability of hard workers to earn future wealth, thus killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
For those who are interested, the infiltration of Socialism into Christian churches occurred (ASTONISHINGLY) at the same time that socialism was being pushed out into governmental policy. And (ASTONISHINGLY) they both had the same source: academe.
It was at this point that certain doctrines of the New Testament (aiding the poor, forsaking wealth and materialism) were reinterpreted and amplified to be used as a theological basis for pushing Socialism.
Socialism has been in the pulpit for as long as Wilson was “patient zero” for introducing the “swine-flu” of political and economic ideology directly into a major political party. He was the organism that successfully transmitted the disease from the pigs into the average man.
I'm still researching who played that role in the church, but so far I'm leaning toward Bishop G. Bromley Oxnam, early policy chairman for the Federal Council of Churches in Christ, which later became a major force in forming the World Council of Churches, a “religious” organization that, despite its pastors with deeply sympathetic eyes and empathetic lip-biting, is as red as you can get.
The Federal Council of Churches should not be confused with the American Council of Churches, which was a fundamentalist response to the politicizing of the pulpit.
Bromley was a communist/socialist. Wikipedia defends him, as they always do, by saying he was accused but defended himself. His record speaks for itself. He fought for Socialist revolution in America through religion. He aided Spanish communists. That he used sophistry to defend himself does not make him any less of a communist/socialist than he was.
What was Jesus politically?.. He was/is/will be A KING...
He is a monarchist.. he owns literally everything, including the voters..
From the fartherest galazy even all the way to Detroit, Jesus OWNS it all..
Jesus evens OWNS Washington D.C..
Vike,
I think we’ve had this conversation.
In my heart I believe that the LAST thing The Lord would have pushed for is a Leviathan Statist Nanny that takes the place of the Kingdom of God in the hearts of men.
The point is that central planning has to have absolute control over the economy and know the desires of the people. Hayek discusses this in "The Road to Serfdom".
But it is today's socialist/statist who presumes to know the right thing to do for a myriad of people and their wants and desires, and that in and of itself is an attempt for man to be God. It requires total control. By definition that violates the 1st commandment - "You shall not have any gods before Me."
Jesus, on the other hand, is the only Person who is qualified to be that leader. And that is what Scripture talks about: mankind needs a perfect King, and Jesus is that King. Jesus is God.
Willingly or unwillingly, every knee will bow before Him in the future.
Socialism - “Any of various political philosophies that support social and economic equality, collective decision-making, and public control of productive capital and natural resources, as advocated by socialists”
Jesus never supported any such socialism!
Jesus preached and taught to INDIVIDUALS — that individuals should love and give voluntarily! He never advocated that the State should take care of people nor that confiscatory taxes was the way to prosperity!
Jesus is a socialist in the same way that God is a dictator.
Human political terms are utterly inadequate to fully describe divinity.