Traditional Anglican group ‘profoundly moved’ by Pope's new provision for converts (very moving)

cna ^ | October 22, 2009

[NYer]

TAC Primate Archbishop John Hepworth

Blackwood, Australia, Oct 22, 2009 / 02:57 am (CNA).- The Primate of the Traditional Anglican Communion has responded to the Vatican’s announcement of a new provision for Anglicans who wish to convert to Catholicism, saying his church is “profoundly moved” by Pope Benedict’s generosity. He added that the provision will now be taken to the national synods of his Communion.

In an Oct. 20 statement published on the website of the communion’s The Messenger Journal, Traditional Anglican Communion Primate Archbishop John Hepworth said he had been speaking with bishops, priests and lay people of the Communion in England, Africa, Australia, India, Canada, the U.S. and South America about the recent news.

“We are profoundly moved by the generosity of the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI,” Archbishop Hepworth wrote. He said the creation of the canonical structure for Anglicans was an act of “great goodness” on the part of Pope Benedict and his “cause of unity.”

“It more than matches the dreams we dared to include in our petition of two years ago. It more than matches our prayers. In those two years, we have become very conscious of the prayers of our friends in the Catholic Church. Perhaps their prayers dared to ask even more than ours,” the Traditional Anglican archbishop added.

He praised the “pastoral nature” of the notes released by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and also noted that his fellow bishops have signed the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

In that 2007 event, Traditional Anglican bishops signed the Catechism and placed it on the altar of the historic National Shrine of Our Lady of Walsingham in Norfolk, England in order to attest to “the faith we aspire to teach and hold.”

The signed Catechism was later presented to then-Fr. Augustine Di Noia, OP, the senior ecumenical theologian at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Di Noia has since been consecrated an archbishop and named Secretary of the Vatican’s Congregation for Divine Worship.

Archbishop Hepworth also discussed the statement issued by Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, the most senior prelate in the Church of England and the Anglican Communion.

The statement shows that Archbishop Williams does not stand in traditional Anglicans’ way, he said.

“Both his reaction and our petition are fruits of a century of prayer for Christian unity, a cause that many times must have seemed forlorn,” Archbishop Hepworth commented, expressing gratitude to Archbishop Williams.

Archbishop Hepworth reported that the response of the Holy See will be taken to each of the Traditional Anglican Communion’s National Synods. While these synods have already endorsed “our pathway,” the archbishop explained, they will now consider the specific structures proposed.

He closed his message by referring to the Te Deum, a traditional Christian prayer of thanksgiving.

“It is with heartfelt thanks to Almighty God, the Lord and Source of all peace and unity, that the hymn is on our lips today,” the archbishop said. “This is a moment of grace, perhaps even a moment of history, not because the past is undone, but because the past is transformed.”

[NYer]

In that 2007 event, Traditional Anglican bishops signed the Catechism and placed it on the altar of the historic National Shrine of Our Lady of Walsingham in Norfolk, England in order to attest to “the faith we aspire to teach and hold.”

Very moving!

[NYer]

“It is with heartfelt thanks to Almighty God, the Lord and Source of all peace and unity, that the hymn is on our lips today,” the archbishop said. “This is a moment of grace, perhaps even a moment of history, not because the past is undone, but because the past is transformed.”

Welcome home!

[SevenofNine]

I read this funny article on UK Daily Mail NYer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-1222046/If-Archbishop-spent-time-fretting-climate-change-notice-pope-mug-him.html

I tell you one thing Brit papers are cold

[ConservativeMind]

‘Traditional Anglicans, all you need to is give your obedience to the Pope. You can keep your current songs and even leaders, as long as they convert.

Please forget about that hit job against the Queen that led to this small schism.’

[NYer]

I see what you mean!

The Pope looks at our national Church and sees an increasingly fragmented institution, some of whose clergy and laity are longing for strong and decisive leadership. So he turns poacher.

Thanks for the link and laugh :-)

[Salvation]

For later!

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Please forget about that hit job against the Queen that led to this small schism.”

Henry VIII was a king, not a queen. Perhaps you are referring to Queen Elizabeth I? That would make no sense. The schism happened in 1534 or so while Elizabeth did not become queen until about 1558.

[SevenofNine]

AH NO Problem Nyer

I do go on Brit wire some of it is critical some of them are postivie you know the Brit paper they can be cold blooded

[AnAmericanMother]

Very moving indeed.

I cannot help but think that Our Lady will look favorably on this effort to reclaim her Dowry.

Te Deum laudamus:
te Dominum confitemur.
Te aeternum Patrem
omnis terra veneratur.
Tibi omnes Angeli;
tibi caeli et universae Potestates;
Tibi Cherubim et Seraphim
incessabili voce proclamant:

Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus,
Dominus Deus Sabaoth.
Pleni sunt caeli et terra
maiestatis gloriae tuae.
Te gloriosus Apostolorum chorus,
Te Prophetarum laudabilis numerus,
Te Martyrum candidatus laudat exercitus.
Te per orbem terrarum sancta confitetur Ecclesia,
Patrem immensae maiestatis:
Venerandum tuum verum et unicum Filium;
Sanctum quoque Paraclitum Spiritum.
Tu Rex gloriae, Christe.
Tu Patris sempiternus es Filius.
Tu ad liberandum suscepturus hominem,
non horruisti Virginis uterum.
Tu, devicto mortis aculeo,
aperuisti credentibus regna caelorum.
Tu ad dexteram Dei sedes, in gloria Patris.
Iudex crederis esse venturus.
Te ergo quaesumus, tuis famulis subveni:
quos pretioso sanguine redemisti.
Aeterna fac cum sanctis tuis in gloria numerari.
Salvum fac populum tuum,
Domine, et benedic hereditati tuae.
Et rege eos, et extolle illos usque in aeternum.
Per singulos dies benedicimus te;
Et laudamus Nomen tuum in saeculum, et in saeculum saeculi.
Dignare, Domine, die isto sine peccato nos custodire.
Miserere nostri domine, miserere nostri.
Fiat misericordia tua,
Domine, super nos, quemadmodum speravimus in te.
In te, Domine, speravi:
non confundar in aeternum.

We praise thee, O God :
we acknowledge thee to be the Lord.
All the earth doth worship thee :
the Father everlasting.
To thee all Angels cry aloud :
the Heavens, and all the Powers therein.
To thee Cherubim and Seraphim :
continually do cry,

Holy, Holy, Holy :
Lord God of Sabaoth;
Heaven and earth are full of the Majesty of thy glory.
The glorious company of the Apostles : praise thee.
The goodly fellowship of the Prophets : praise thee.
The noble army of Martyrs : praise thee.
The holy Church throughout all the world doth acknowledge thee;
The Father : of an infinite Majesty;
Thine honourable, true : and only Son;
Also the Holy Ghost : the Comforter.
Thou art the King of Glory : O Christ.
Thou art the everlasting Son : of the Father.
When thou tookest upon thee to deliver man :
thou didst not abhor the Virgin's womb.
When thou hadst overcome the sharpness of death :
thou didst open the Kingdom of Heaven to all believers.
Thou sittest at the right hand of God : in the glory of the Father.
We believe that thou shalt come : to be our Judge.
We therefore pray thee, help thy servants :
whom thou hast redeemed with thy precious blood.
Make them to be numbered with thy Saints : in glory everlasting.
O Lord, save thy people : and bless thine heritage.
Govern them : and lift them up for ever.
Day by day : we magnify thee;
And we worship thy Name : ever world without end.
Vouchsafe, O Lord : to keep us this day without sin.
O Lord, have mercy upon us : have mercy upon us.
O Lord, let thy mercy lighten upon us :
as our trust is in thee.
O Lord, in thee have I trusted :
let me never be confounded.

[Salvavida]

I’ll stick to the Bible and the approval from God, rather than approval of men.

It amazes me the need for people to be in bondage of religion after Jesus set us free with the simplicity of thw gospel (as addressed in the entire book of Galatians).

[Salvavida]

I keep hoping people would open their Bibles and study, instead of following man-made doctrines.

Mary can provide nothing to anyone. She is as dead as any other saint that has gone before. There is no biblical support to suggest otherwise.

[Bigg Red]

Beautiful.

[AnAmericanMother]

Don't know how old you are, but probably I was doing "Sword Drill" and getting my Sunday School pins before you could read. I converted to Catholicism in 2004. I can (and do) read the Bible in Latin and the original Greek as well as English. My undergraduate degree was in history, and as Cardinal Newman said, "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant."

And the Bible says a great deal about the Communion of Saints and the cloud of witnesses, and the prayers for the dead. Moreover, the Tradition of the Apostles and the Church (which you wish to ignore) has been very plain from the beginning with regard to the Blessed Mother. Even Calvin, Luther, and Zwingli acknowledged her special status as the Mother of God, and her intercession on behalf of men on earth.

If you wish to ignore tradition as well as Scripture, be my guest. But you're going to have to do better than that to convince me. We gave all these issues serious study before we converted.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

... and then the Pope said ... Karl Marx was really a good man, just misunderstood in history. And all the people turned around and went back home.

[SevenofNine]

OH MAN This guy is doofus just don’t get ittttt

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/frank_skinner/article6886168.ece

[Pyro7480]

You really are behind the times. Read some Pius XI, who said that one couldn’t be a Catholic and be a true socialist- it’s an either/or game.

[flaglady47]

“”I’ll stick to the Bible and the approval from God, rather than approval of men.”

The Bible was inspired by God, but written by men, a Bible that was the basis of the Catholic religion until Protestants came along in the 1500’s, and copped off with the Catholic Bible and most of its traditions and tried to claim it as their own. But Protestants tend to jump a thousand years or so and think that the interpretation of religion, traditions, and the Bible somehow only began in the 1500’s. And, then, as far as I can see, the Protestants then proceeded to squabble amongst themselves about their new versions of the original Christian relgion, and have splintered ever since into ever more sects up to the present. And that Bible, well, according to Protestants (I was raised one, Lutheran), it can be interpreted by each individual pretty much as he/she wishes to interpret it, thus rendering and coherent interpretation of the Bible pretty much worthless. It can mean whatever you want it to mean. As Martin Luther was quoted when nearing death, and I paraphrase, now any milkmaid can go out and start a religion.

[baa39]

My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord:
my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
for he has looked with favor on his lowly servant.
From this day forward, all generations
shall call me blessed...

Gosh, I though that was in the Bible, oh well.

Mary can provide nothing to anyone eh? Remember that little incident in a stable in Bethlehem? That was the Mother of the Incarnate God providing the world with a saviour. I thought that was in the Bible too, but oh well, being a Catholic I guess I must defer to your supposed greater knowledge of scripture.

[stripes1776]

As Martin Luther was quoted when nearing death, and I paraphrase, now any milkmaid can go out and start a religion.

Thanks for the quote, or rather paraphrase. I never heard that one before, but I guess I don't know enough Lutherans.