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The Prophecy of Jubilees by Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel
2010Rapture.org ^ | January 1, 2010 | Unattributed

Posted on 01/01/2010 2:51:59 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta

In June of 2009 an e-mail was sent to subscribers concerning a little known Rabbinic prophesy according to Israel Today. According to this article, Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel was a top Talmudic scholar in Germany. Just before he died in the year 1217 he prophesied that the Ottoman Turks would rule over the holy city of Jerusalem for eight jubilees. That is 400 years (8 x 50). The Ottoman Turks did take control of Jerusalem 300 years after the Rabbi’s death in 1517 and as according to the prophecy, the Ottoman Turks then lost Jerusalem 400 years later in 1917. It was during WWI that British General Edmund Allenby walked into Jerusalem on Hanukkah without firing a shot in 1917. The timing of this with the holiday and the ease at which it occurred indeed make this moment of history extremely significant.

In the book, Signs of the End, the significance of this date and its events helped launch the book. This was without even knowing of the Rabbi’s prophecy. They key was Allenby’s entrance into Jerusalem during Hanukkah. With the first world war underway with nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom there was added importance. In 1917 all nations that were involved in the war had become involved. But the kickoff day for WWI was the 9th of Av 2014, when Russia and Germany entered the war establishing the plurality of nations involved in the war. In doing a study on the day counts found in Daniel, these two days came up on the radar screen at the same spacing and these days were the second day of Hanukkah (Kislev 26) and the 9th of Av. With these days occurring in 1914 and 1917, it was found that 100 years later that the same day counts of Daniel occur. This with 100 years being the limit of a generation found in the Bible (as defined by Abraham’s 4 generations of a total of 400 years-–is it a coincidence that the Rabbi’s prophesy of 400 years also ends in 1917?).

The Rabbi then went on to say that after the eight jubilees, the ninth jubilee would have Jerusalem being a no-man’s-land, which it was from 1917 to 1967 until the Six-Day-War. The Rabbi’s prophecy then stated that in the tenth Jubilee that Jerusalem would be controlled by Israel and then the Messianic end times would begin. That would then bring the time to 2017.

The article concerning the Rabbi is linked below:


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: 2017; endtimes; israel; judahbensamuel; messiah; prophecies; prophecy
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1 posted on 01/01/2010 2:52:00 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

So . . . the idea is that the Rapture takes place seven years before (2010) the millennial kingdom commences (2017)?


2 posted on 01/01/2010 2:56:05 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Genoa
That's what the guy who has this site says and, if you have some time, read the next two articles underneath this one on the site. (Upper right hand corner)

It looks like he's done some painstaking research on Biblical timelines, patterns of events with set number of days between the events that have corresponded to dates on the Jewish calendar- it really is some credible, fascinating stuff.

And I'm not a math genius, but it appears to all add up.

3 posted on 01/01/2010 3:01:13 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Even so Lord, come quickly.


4 posted on 01/01/2010 3:04:59 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy
Yes- PLEASE!!!!
5 posted on 01/01/2010 3:06:57 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
it looks like he's done some painstaking research on Biblical timelines, patterns of events with set number of days between the events that have corresponded to dates on the Jewish calendar- it really is some credible, fascinating stuff.

And I'm not a math genius, but it appears to all add up.

This seems to mesh with Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2014/15
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
6 posted on 01/01/2010 3:10:09 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
We're getting real close, Uri’el-2012!!
7 posted on 01/01/2010 3:15:40 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Happy New Year Giovanna!

Did you read this article?

Biblical scholar’s date for rapture: May 21, 2011

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/01/BA8V1AV589.DTL#ixzz0bPDSpc5O

No one can actually predict the Coming of Christ but I do believe we are close and Jesus is sending signs for all of us to be ready at any moment..


8 posted on 01/01/2010 3:20:48 PM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
We're getting real close, Uri’el-2012!!

Amen ! Sister.

My own personal belief is the Evil One will be revealed
and defile the temple at Passover in 2012
which is 3 1/2 years into this Sabbatical cycle.

There are only two Feast of Trumpets till then.

Look up ! Yah'shua is coming soon !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
9 posted on 01/01/2010 3:22:11 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: TaraP
Happy New Year, TaraP!!

Yes, I did see this- someone posted it earlier- and my reaction was that Harold Camping is a kook who makes all of us who are looking for Christ's return look like fringe loonies.

If Camping truly scrutinized his Bible, he would know that God said that no man knows the day nor the hour of the Rapture- we would know when it's at the door but not the actual date and time- and he would never have made such an asinine statement.

My guess is that Harold Camping craves attention. From some responses on the other thread, it appears as though he's pulled this stunt before- declaring a date and time for the Rapture which came and went along with his credibility.

And yes Tara- we are unbelievably close!!!

10 posted on 01/01/2010 3:35:11 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: DvdMom; Quix; JustPiper

Extremely interesting prophecy article re: 2017


11 posted on 01/01/2010 3:35:24 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Where the Turks — specifically the Ottoman Turks — even known in the Rabbi’s time? Or did he refer to them by some other name?


12 posted on 01/01/2010 3:51:51 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Tallguy

That I don’t know- I haven’t seen the exact wording of the prophecy.


13 posted on 01/01/2010 3:59:13 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: mountn man; Sharondownunderinnz

ping


14 posted on 01/01/2010 4:04:22 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Sorry..., but no Christian should take any word from a Muslim cleric or Jewish Rabbi or Buddhist monk or Gentile clairvoyant or Mormon prophet or any ole whacko as significant “prophecy” — other than the 66 books of the Bible from those 40 authors that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob chose to write down His inerrant and infallible words which we refer to as the Bible.

And from that “Word of God” we can see that the stage is being set for these final prophetic events of the Tribulation to take place but we don’t know when it’s going to be “kicked off” and that it could all start within days or hours from now or after we’re already dead and gone from this earthly scene, since Jesus said we wouldn’t know.

Study what God’s prophecies tell us, for sure, knowing all the while that we’ll never get any “timing” for the last 7 years of Daniel’s prophecy to “kick off” because God made sure we wouldn’t. He made sure to let us know that it can happen at any time. But also be sure to ignore any “prophecies” from any man because none are dependable outside of the revelation of Scripture.


15 posted on 01/01/2010 4:09:44 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Tallguy

Yehudah HaChassid, as he is known, was a witness and survivor to countless murders of Jews by Crusaders.

Ottomans were bit players in the Islam of his day and not notable until a generation after his death.

He urged Jews to accept martyrdom rather than conversion to Christianity, and is a revered Jewish teacher to this day.


16 posted on 01/01/2010 4:09:56 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Star Traveler
If the prophecy made by a Rabbi actually happens, as this one did, I'm going to give it some credibility.

I believe that all prophecy concerning the return of Christ, the seven year Tribulation, and His millennial kingdom are all complete in the Scriptures, with nothing to be added to those prophecies, but I'm not going to be the one who makes any emphatic statement that God has never, ever used anyone else, especially a Rabbi, to prophecy something like this that latter day Christians could then use as confirmation that Christ's return is near and see fulfilled Christ's promise that we would know when His return is "at the door".

I don't know if this Rabbi made this prophecy in God's name or not, but it did come to pass and therefore I will not dismiss it.

17 posted on 01/01/2010 4:32:18 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Star Traveler
Sorry..., but no Christian should take any word from a Muslim cleric or Jewish Rabbi

What about the Jewish Rabbis known in their day as Yeshua Ben Yosef, or Sha'ul L' Benyamini?
18 posted on 01/01/2010 4:49:31 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.html
19 posted on 01/01/2010 5:26:37 PM PST by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: blasater1960

Your point is?


20 posted on 01/01/2010 5:33:53 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Ping


21 posted on 01/01/2010 5:55:13 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Star Traveler

There is obviously a huge difference between Jewish interpretation of the Bible and that of the other religions you mention. To lump the Jews in with Hindus, Moslems, and Buddhists is absurd and stupid. The Old Tesament is a Jewish scripture, first and foremost. Of course they have a deep understnding of it. It is written in Hebrew after all. Do you read Hebrew? Does Hal Lindsey or your favorite TV preacher?


22 posted on 01/01/2010 6:03:32 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black; Star Traveler
There is obviously a huge difference between Jewish interpretation of the Bible and that of the other religions you mention. The Old Tesament is a Jewish scripture, first and foremost.

Believe it or not, The New Testament is Jewish as well.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
23 posted on 01/01/2010 6:34:47 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I must say that the point about 1917, 1967, and 2017 is intriguing. A variety of indicators seem to be converging about fulfillment of prophecy in just a few years’ time. 2012, 2015, 2017? Whatever. We are in for a very interesting decade. I won’t assume that anyone is right about being raptured away in 2010, though.


24 posted on 01/01/2010 7:41:22 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
"Believe it or not, The New Testament is Jewish as well"

Not at all. It is a mixture of Jewish-Roman-Grecco paganism. There is nothing Jewish about a hybrid god-man,born of a virgin, dies and resurrects, who is worshipped by the drinking of his blood and the eating of his fleah. That is thoroughly pagan.

25 posted on 01/01/2010 8:47:49 PM PST by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

At the very least this should be kept in mind along with everything else that seems to be falling into place.

Interesting post.


26 posted on 01/01/2010 9:03:36 PM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: blasater1960

Hey just wait one little minute.....

Where did you get the idea a Christian who drinks and eats the blood of the one they worship! I don’t and never would consider doing so.

We do have a communion service where we sip a little jigger of grapejuice and taste a bit of bread... he asked us to do this in rememberance of me”...which does not turn into anything as some would have us believe. It is simply remembering the great price he paid by laying his life down for us. It is also a time to reflect and if need be seek His forgiveness. But we generally keep short accounts with God in that regard. I sin too often to wait for a communion service.

It’s similar to the Jewish Sader meal....in that it only represents...and causes us to remember.

To think otherwise is just silly...


27 posted on 01/01/2010 9:33:31 PM PST by caww
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To: hennie pennie

Thx.

Will check it out.

Blessings,


28 posted on 01/01/2010 9:35:45 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Thanks.

Will check it out, hopefully tomorrow.

Blessings,


29 posted on 01/01/2010 9:39:35 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

“Believe it or not, The New Testament is Jewish as well.”

If it might not be too forward of me...what is a good translation one might have which enhances this fact??? Although it looks fine in those I have.


30 posted on 01/01/2010 9:40:45 PM PST by caww
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To: Genoa
I won’t assume that anyone is right about being raptured away in 2010, though.

No, I won't make that assumption either. But it would be awesome if it did happen!

31 posted on 01/02/2010 3:08:08 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: blasater1960
The only people I know who worship their "diety" by drinking blood are Satanists.

That "hybrid god-man" (how sickening), Who hung on a cross dying a horrific death to keep you out of hell, is returning to this earth very soon, just like He said He will, and you will see Him returning and all of your rage and hatred toward the God Who loved you so much He gave His life for you will evaporate as you realize Who you have rejected and what you have given up for all eternity.

I actually feel sorry for you.

32 posted on 01/02/2010 3:38:53 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: blasater1960
U-2012>Believe it or not, The New Testament is Jewish as well

Not at all. It is a mixture of Jewish-Roman-Grecco paganism. There is nothing Jewish about a hybrid god-man,born of a virgin, dies and resurrects, who is worshipped by the drinking of his blood and the eating of his fleah. That is thoroughly pagan.

Drinking blood and eating flesh is pagan.

Attempting to kill the creator of the universe daily is blasphemous.

That was introduced following Nicea with the Roman church.

It is as non-scriptural cult.

You have stated that YHvH is not king of the universe !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
33 posted on 01/02/2010 7:15:44 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: caww
U-2012>Believe it or not, The New Testament is Jewish as well.

If it might not be too forward of me...what is a good translation one might have which enhances this fact??? Although it looks fine in those I have.

I can recommend David Stern's Complete Jewish Bible

It contains metaphorical insights when Yah'shua
is viewed through a Jewish lens.

David has also produced a B'rit Chadashah commentary as well.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
34 posted on 01/02/2010 7:43:04 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Star Traveler
"If you're planting a tree and hear the moshiach has come,
first finish the planting, then go to greet him." --Talmud
35 posted on 01/02/2010 7:58:32 AM PST by onedoug
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; caww

This is he, yes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_ben_Samuel_of_Regensburg


36 posted on 01/02/2010 8:02:51 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Genoa
This is he, yes?

It looks as though it just may be.

the personal relation of the individual to God, which at times was in opposition to the religion of the Synagogue.

indulged in marked departures from the accepted religious practises.

emphasized the importance of studying the Bible as against studying the Talmud.

Sounds a little like Christ!!

37 posted on 01/02/2010 8:14:58 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Very much appreciated...thank you.


38 posted on 01/02/2010 8:22:18 AM PST by caww
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Hmmmm. Maybe some other posters can fill us in on what it takes to spot protomessianic tendencies in medieval Judaism!


39 posted on 01/02/2010 8:57:25 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Genoa
All that's required is a basic knowledge of the life of Christ and how he upset the established religious applecart before he was crucified.

It's nice to read the similarities the Rabbi shared with Christ's refusal to submit to the religious phonies of His day.

40 posted on 01/02/2010 9:17:52 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Tzfat
You were saying ...

What about the Jewish Rabbis known in their day as Yeshua Ben Yosef, or Sha'ul L' Benyamini?

Just keep reading on down that paragraph... I've got it covered... :-)

41 posted on 01/02/2010 9:20:37 AM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
You were saying ...

I believe that all prophecy concerning the return of Christ, the seven year Tribulation, and His millennial kingdom are all complete in the Scriptures, with nothing to be added to those prophecies, but I'm not going to be the one who makes any emphatic statement that God has never, ever used anyone else, especially a Rabbi, to prophecy something like this that latter day Christians could then use as confirmation that Christ's return is near and see fulfilled Christ's promise that we would know when His return is "at the door".

It's fine to use other sources for "information" to give us understanding -- some better than others. And, of course some "information" is plain misleading and will get people totally off track (which would be Satan's plan, of course...).

But..., that's just regarding information or explanation or commentary. You can take it or leave it and it's not authoritative.

However, when someone says "this is a prophecy from God" (or a follower says of this -- "this is a prophecy from God"0 then it's being elevated to Scripture status and in that case, for anything that someone who says like that -- it's basically as valid as listening to a Buddhits or a Muslim cleric or a Satanist (even) -- because all of their "prophecies from God" are as much garbage as the next person in this world.

Scripture is where a prophecy from God is to be found...

But, again, I'm not talking about commentaries or someone "giving an understanding" about culture or words or some obscure meaning in Scripture -- I'm talking about someone who is going around and giving out "prophecies from God" out of his own mouth and his own writings.

42 posted on 01/02/2010 9:29:05 AM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Jack Black
You were saying ...

There is obviously a huge difference between Jewish interpretation of the Bible and that of the other religions you mention. To lump the Jews in with Hindus, Moslems, and Buddhists is absurd and stupid.

Yeah, if we're talking about "interpretation" of our existing Scriptures, then you're right -- along with some other things, like understanding the culture, maybe getting a clearer understanding of a word in usage back then and/or regarding some obscure meaning of Scripture or perhaps an idiom.

But, you'll notice that comment of mine wasn't about understanding background information or about word studies or language skills and/or about the culture or history of the item in question -- it was about someone saying that "I have a prophecy from God"...

If someone is saying that, then they are just as valide as a Muslim or a Buddhist or a Satanist -- in doing that... in other words, worth absolutely nothing...

43 posted on 01/02/2010 9:33:22 AM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012; Jack Black
You were saying ...

Believe it or not, The New Testament is Jewish as well.

Yes indeed it is... :-)

44 posted on 01/02/2010 9:34:35 AM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Star Traveler
I never said the prophecy was from God. I did say the prophecy did come to pass and it did.

Now, nobody who is alive today was around when the Rabbi made the prophecy so no one can say with any authority if God inspired him with this prophecy, which actually happened, or not.

I guess at this point we will all have to believe what we want. Like I said before, I will not take it upon myself to state that God had nothing to do with this prophecy, which actually happened, because I wasn't around.

And neither were you.

45 posted on 01/02/2010 9:37:58 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: onedoug
You were saying ...

"If you're planting a tree and hear the moshiach has come, first finish the planting, then go to greet him." --Talmud

Well, I think, also, of what the Messiah Himself said about that... LOL...

   Matthew Chapter 24

23 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There!'
   do not believe it.

24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs
   and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

25 See, I have told you beforehand.

I'm thinking ya might as well finish the day's work, not just that tree, because it's most likely a false messiah that someone is hollering about ... LOL...

The real one won't be giving you any time to finish the planting... :-)

46 posted on 01/02/2010 9:43:04 AM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
You were saying ...

I never said the prophecy was from God.

I noted that either a follower says it or the guy giving it says it... and obviously from the following that fits... (because someone is saying it's a prophecy).

Just before he died in the year 1217 he prophesied that the Ottoman Turks would rule over the holy city of Jerusalem for eight jubilees. That is 400 years (8 x 50). The Ottoman Turks did take control of Jerusalem 300 years after the Rabbi’s death in 1517 and as according to the prophecy, the Ottoman Turks then lost Jerusalem 400 years later in 1917.

And I also recall that an evil spirit was cast out of some other woman (in Scripture) even when she was saying true things about the Apostles...

Evil spirits are never to be listened to, no matter whether they tell you one or two things that are true. And anyone who says that they are "prophesying from God" and giving God's Word to you right now (outside of God's own prophetic Word, itself and the ones that God specifically chose to do so for His Scripture) -- has some kind of evil spirit in them, to be sure...

   Acts Chapter 16

16 Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl
   possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her
   masters much profit by fortune-telling.

17 This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, "These men
   are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way
   of salvation."

18 And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned
   and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ
   to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.

There happens to be a lot of "annoying divinators" running around these days, and in the days of old, too... :-)

47 posted on 01/02/2010 9:53:34 AM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Genoa

“...the Rapture takes place...”

What rapture? “As in the days of Noah...” - Noah was not taken out, Noah was taken through...and under God’s protection.


48 posted on 01/02/2010 10:00:44 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: blasater1960; GiovannaNicoletta
You were saying ...

http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.html

LOL..., I do like to read some of these websites for the humor involved... :-) Some of what it said, below...


Paul and the writers of all four canonical Gospels described the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, as they understood it had happened. There is a acknowledged consensus among academic Christian theologians that:


They are entertaining...

Here's another one that is just as entertaining, too. :-)

Jesus Christ is a False Messiah from "Evil Bible.com".... LOL...

You seem to be the type of person who would enjoy these ridiculous websites... :-)

49 posted on 01/02/2010 10:10:37 AM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: hennie pennie

Thanks , I appreciate your pings :)

Have A Great New Year Too !!


50 posted on 01/02/2010 10:15:53 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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