Posted on 01/16/2010 8:23:23 AM PST by Colofornian
From the article: Since Elohim said that His people are to keep His commandments forever (Exodus 31:16, Leviticus 16:31, 23:21), to say that Jesus did away with the Torah—and the commandments in it—places Him in the category that Moshe taught in Deuteronomy 13:1,2: "If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods’—which you have not known—‘and let us serve them.’” Moshe cautioned not to believe that prophet: “You shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for YHVH your Elohim is testing you to know whether you love YHVH your Elohim with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after YHVH your Elohim and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him.”(Deuteronomy 13:3,4)
Per your invitation. (I have it on good authority Yeshua’s track record of loving Jews is quite good!)
No.
If man could be saved by law keeping Jesus came in vain
Silliness. God can can choose to save anyone he pleases to. HE isn’t restricted by anything. Even the pope mentioned this aspect.
Silliness. God can choose to save anyone he pleases to. HE isn’t restricted by anything. Even the pope mentioned this aspect.
No.
Amen... I think the question is completely arrogant on it’s face. I would go so far as to say you are being disobedient to God for being so arrogant as to believe you can come up with the answer.
God can do whatever He wants to do...
You should have added car care tips or cooking advice...
You should have added car care tips or cooking advice...
So Jews go to hell, according to you?
What about the original question. What about those Jews who beleive in neither the Jesus or Yeshua described. The article is silent on this.
II, do you agree with this?
Pretty good answer ... I’ll just reinforce it. Absolutely NOT.
LOL
Apart from Jesus, no one has ever kept the entire law because it is impossible to do so (Empahsis mine):
"For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in ONE POINT, he has become guilty of ALL." (James 2:10)
Jesus said to the Jews (and to all of mankind by application):
"Therefore I said to you that YOU WILL DIE IN YOUR SINS; for UNLESS YOU BELIEVE that I AM He (i.e. the Messiah), YOU WILL DIE IN YOUR SINS." (John 8:24) "I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH and THE LIFE, no one comes unto the Father but THROUGH ME" (John 14:6) "And there is SALVATION in NO ONE ELSE; for there is no NO OTHER NAME under heaven that has been given among men by which we MUST be saved.” (Acts 4:12)
Everyone, Jew and Gentile alike MUST come to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and Him alone in order to be saved from their sins. Without Him there is NO SALVATION, no matter how "good" some men believe they are, no matter how much they try to keep the Law, no matter what their physical relationship to Abraham is.
“...that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised...” (Luke 7:22b)
and at the same time says that “Jesus” did away with the Old Testament commandments—this is a red flag to the Torah observant believer. “Jesus”, according to Moshe, must then be a false prophet if He does signs and wonders and teaches not to keep the commandments in the Torah.”
This sounds like nitpicking at a strawman. Who are these unidentified persons that say Jesus did away with the Law?
And why the concern over whether one uses the familiar though incorrect form “Jesus” or the less familiar but also incorrect “Yeshua”?
John 14:6 (King James Version)
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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