Can a Person Be Saved Without Jesus?

House of Yeshua ^ | September 2009 | Jon Thompson

[colorcountry]

and a plan for salvation exists for all

Can you expound on this. What is the "plan?"

[Eagle Eye]

The truth that God saved people before the birth of Christ leads the conversation do dispensationalism, but I don’t have a problem with that.

As I recall, John 3:16 makes a promise that requires on-going belief.

Romans 10:9 states a one time action that has continuing results, and also mentions the resurrection.

But the bottom line is that all salvation requires either the belief in the coming Christ or the resurrection of Christ which makes Christ the focal point of all salvation.

[JustaDumbBlonde]

Where the Jews go is not according to me. I am a mere mortal that only knows what I’ve been taught in church, and my pastor preaches the Word directly from the Bible.

[fish hawk]

Though it is true that God can do what ever he chooses to do, He has given us a rule book to go by. I doubt that he would do something the opposite of what he laid out in His own book. The God I believe in isn’t a “do as I say, not as I do” God.

[delacoert]

1. Abraham “believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness,” as it is written in Genesis 15:6.
2. Abraham believed “in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness,” as it is written in Romans 4:5.
3. Abraham did know Christ and looked forward to His coming. “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day; and he saw it, and was glad,” as Jesus said in John 8:56-58.

Selah!

[fish hawk]

Cooking advice? How bout a recipe for eternal life.

[pallis]

There is one mediator between man and God, and that is Jesus Christ.

[wolfcreek]

For Christians, Jesus is the way.

Do know about other beliefs.

[Nosterrex]

That is not entirely true. Once God has limited Himself to work through a particular order or means, he is bound to it. There is no salvation outside of Christ Jesus. Salvation is through faith in Christ alone. The ceremonial and civil laws of the Old Testament were never directed toward Gentiles, and these were shadows that have been perfectly fulfilled in Jesus. The moral law is the only law that still remains for Christians.

[plsjr]

God CAN restrict Himself - and he has.

God is by nature TRUTH.

Jesus stated he was the "I AM", meaning He was God:

John 8:58
"I tell you the truth", Jesus Answered," Before Abraham was born, I Am"

Exodus 3:14
And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM."

Isaiah 43:10
"You are My witnesses," says the Lord, "And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, And besides Me there is no savior."

Matthew 1:20-25
... behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying "Joseph, son of David, do not be afrraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is the Holy Spirit. And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins."
So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel", which is translated God with us."

If he is not God, then he is a liar and not deserving the adulation you will see in Christians' actions and lives.

If He IS God, then He told us the ONLY way to salvation is through HIM (Jesus).

Praise God. Lord thank you for your path to salvation!

[Hank Kerchief]

Saved from what?

[delacoert]

The righteousness of Jesus Christ was credited to Abraham, David and all who believed in His coming in the Old Testament.

[Dr. North]

Many have contended across the last 60+ years that there are parallel paths to salvation, one requiring being saved by Christ, and the other one just requiring the old testament with no need of Christ.

Yet, Galatians identifies the second path as a false one no Christian can endorse, saying,”I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me.”

“I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ died in vain.”

There is in fact only one path to salvation, and that is with Christ.

[RnMomof7]

Amen !..post modernism rules much of what calls itself Christianity today !

[Tzfat]

Who are these unidentified persons that say Jesus did away with the Law?

Walk into any evangelical seminary and ask. You will hear it loud and clear.

And why the concern over whether one uses the familiar though incorrect form “Jesus” or the less familiar but also incorrect “Yeshua”?

LOL. "...also incorrect "Yeshua" - please... by all means enlighten us.

[Tzfat]

Who is “Jesus”? /sarc

[ejonesie22]

Already have that.

It's simple to.

Accept Jesus Christ (the real one) and mix with love, joy and peace.

Cook for a life time.

[ejonesie22]

It is called the “Oprahization” of American Christianity.

All paths are valid, all paths are equal.

Of course it never address the final logical issuer, if all paths are valid and equal why have any at all?

Christ is the way, this is his created world and ALL people of every nation, creed and race are his.

If one elects to not acknowledge such, it still does not change the reality they live in nor their future.

[Uri’el-2012]

Shabbat Shalom !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[onedoug]

Which part of “Our Father...” is not Jewish?