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What Is Sin? The Testimony of the Egg
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | DJP I.F.

Posted on 01/28/2010 2:23:22 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

Today there are many different views and thoughts about just what the term “Sin” means. Just the word alone gives people the Hee-bee-Gee-bees. People do not like to think of themselves as “Sinners.” They say or think, “Well, I’m not that bad. I’ve never killed anyone. If you only knew the good I do...(and so on and so forth).” These statements and sentiments are expressed in attempting to justify themselves in light of the realities of their "sinful"condition. (John 3:19-21, Hebrews 6:1; 9:14).

Sin, as defined in God’s Word, the Bible, is the transgression and violation of the righteousness and perfection of Almighty God. Sin is also the transgression and violation of the Eternal/ Spiritual and Temporal (Time-bound)/ Natural laws and absolutes of Almighty God the Creator, which are established from the foundation of the world and eternity past (Acts 15:18; 1 John 3:4).

In Adam’s fall we sinneth all! (Romans 5:12, 19) We all are imperfect, we all have sinned! That is the bottom line. God’s Holy (perfect) Word states:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Rom. 3:23). (The word glory refers to the supreme stature of God, His surpassing “weight, worth and wealth,” and His righteous perfection and holy character.)

As it is written, There is none righteous (perfect), no, not one (Rom 3:10).

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We all are broken eggs who need a Savior (Romans 3:23). God has provided to the World His Son for our fallen humanity and to pay are debt of sin (trespasses) against Almighty God (John 3:16-17, 2 Cor 5:21, Romans 10:2-4.

Are you Good Enough? Take the 10 Commandment Challenge and see!

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/goodperson.shtml

1 posted on 01/28/2010 2:23:22 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

“Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense.” -—Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough For Love


2 posted on 01/28/2010 2:27:03 PM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Are you a sinner?..A trespasser of Almighty god’s Natural laws and eternal spiritual absolutes?

Are you Good Enough for God’s Heaven? Take the Test and See!

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/goodperson.shtml

Let me know how you did!


3 posted on 01/28/2010 2:53:53 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Sin of ommission - obstinate or deliberate obscuring of awareness of something we should have done, but didn’t. Moral blindness.
Sin of commission - acting upon a desire or out of anger and ultimately bringing harm or shame to oneself or others. Immorality.


4 posted on 01/28/2010 2:59:29 PM PST by mdk1960
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all (James 2:10)

Thank you, this post is dead on.

I am so grieved at seeing people either discounting the seriousness of sin or going to terrible lengths to try to "cleanse" thenselves. Both are deadly, eternal mistakes.

All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;
we all shrivel up like a leaf,
and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
Isaiah 64:6

I'm told the Greek word is actually "menstrual rags".

5 posted on 01/28/2010 3:29:55 PM PST by T Minus Four (Help Haiti and know your money is going to the right people - www.WorldVision.org)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Are you a sinner?..A trespasser of Almighty god’s Natural laws and eternal spiritual absolutes?

That would depend on the definition of "sin" one is using.

Are you Good Enough for God’s Heaven? Take the Test and See!

Since you were polite enough to ask...sure, why not?

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/goodperson.shtml

Just as an aside...the voice narration on the test is annoying. While it can be disabled, it still has to "run its course" before the option of answering the question appears. I would recommend (assuming you control the website) having the option to answer each question appear immediately.

Let me know how you did!

Either 0% or 10%; I don't recall ever hating my brother as such, but I certainly may have done so as a child.

If I subscribed to one of the Abrahamic religions, this would be cause for concern. However, I am neither Jewish, Christian, nor Muslim, so...not so much.

6 posted on 01/28/2010 3:31:23 PM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

1John 3:4 ... sin is the transgression of the law.
(I’m guilty in all)

John’s quill had to be shaking when he saw the scenes of the end. Knowing this, and to give him comfort, I’m sure the angel directed his prophetic gaze toward a small surviving group;

Rev 12:17... And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God...
Rev 14:12... Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Commandment-keeping, how peculiar!

Drives me weeping to my belly, to be thought so...odd.


7 posted on 01/28/2010 4:22:38 PM PST by spankalib
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To: GL of Sector 2814
Robert A. Heinlein

I'm sure Heinlein is discovering just how invented those sins are.

8 posted on 01/28/2010 4:27:15 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
I'm sure Heinlein is discovering just how invented those sins are.

Not a fan?

9 posted on 01/28/2010 5:29:28 PM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Fan - yes.

However, Heinlein no longer walks this earth.


10 posted on 01/28/2010 5:57:01 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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However, Heinlein no longer walks this earth.

Which makes it rather difficult for him to discover (in the present tense) much of anything.

Hey, speaking of Heinlein...I just discovered this:

http://www.virginiaedition.com/

Everything he ever wrote in a limited leather-bound hardback special edition, 47 volumes in all.

The question at hand: Is it worth $1500? Maybe...

11 posted on 01/28/2010 6:12:29 PM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814
Which makes it rather difficult for him to discover (in the present tense) much of anything.

Not when he has passed into eternity to face God for his comments and life.

12 posted on 01/28/2010 6:44:14 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
Not when he has passed into eternity to face God for his comments and life.

You're certainly free to believe that if you like.

13 posted on 01/28/2010 6:51:23 PM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814
You're certainly free to believe that if you like.

Indeed, can you afford not to?

14 posted on 01/28/2010 6:53:58 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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Indeed, can you afford not to?

Well, now, that depends. If the Bible is the inspired word of God, then no (that is, I can't afford not to).

On the other hand, if the Koran is the inspired word of Allah, then I (and you!) need to start bowing to Mecca. If the Norse Edda is correct, we need to die with a sword in our hand so Odin will let us into Valhalla.

Etc.

Anything supernatural strikes me as absurd. YMMV.

15 posted on 01/28/2010 7:00:38 PM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814
If the Bible is the inspired word of God, then no (that is, I can't afford not to).

Then that is something that needs to be considered carefully and not just brush aside.

On the other hand, if the Koran is the inspired word of Allah, then I (and you!) need to start bowing to Mecca.

Did mohammad predict his death and establish his deity by coming back to life after his specified period - no.

If the Norse Edda is correct, we need to die with a sword in our hand so Odin will let us into Valhalla.

And does the Norse Edda contain historical documentation of its characters? Or is it a collection of mythology written approximately 1200 AD?

Anything supernatural strikes me as absurd. YMMV.

Absurdity is often a function of the degree of a lack of serious consideration given to a subject. You've provided two alternative 'examples' to the bible - yet they are not comparable for content, history or coherent answers to our existence.

16 posted on 01/28/2010 7:16:57 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
Then that is something that needs to be considered carefully and not just brush aside.

Using the same logic, that could be said of every religion.

Did mohammad predict his death and establish his deity by coming back to life after his specified period - no.

Nor has anyone else, as far as I can tell.

And does the Norse Edda contain historical documentation of its characters? Or is it a collection of mythology written approximately 1200 AD?

It's a collection of mythology. Then again, the Bible is full of Jewish and Christian mythology (The Flood, people living for hundreds of years, walking on water, being resurrected, etc.), albeit of somewhat greater vintage.

Absurdity is often a function of the degree of a lack of serious consideration given to a subject.

I actually have given serious consideration the subject of the supernatural...and I've come to the conclusion that it's a load of dingo's kidneys (to invoke Douglas Adams). Sometimes things simply are absurd.

You've provided two alternative 'examples' to the bible - yet they are not comparable for content, history or coherent answers to our existence.

And I don't believe in any of them. While the Norse example was a bit facetious, I would point out that there are some one and a half billion Muslims who would disagree with your characterization of your religion vs. theirs.

In any case, when looking for answers about the universe and history I look to science and, well, history. As for the answers to our existence...philosophy is a human invention, as is the very concept of "meaning", so it's up to us to figure it out and assign whatever meaning to our existence we see fit. Some people do so by writing religious texts, some through philosophy.

And then there are some like me who think that's it's all just a good excuse for a discussion on the internet :-)

17 posted on 01/28/2010 8:12:18 PM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: T Minus Four

Greek should have been Hebrew. Duh, Old Testament. Thanks G for the ping on that.


18 posted on 01/28/2010 8:49:09 PM PST by T Minus Four (Help Haiti and know your money is going to the right people - www.WorldVision.org)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
Then that is something that needs to be considered carefully and not just brush aside.
Using the same logic, that could be said of every religion.

And in this instance you would be correct

Did mohammad predict his death and establish his deity by coming back to life after his specified period - no.
Nor has anyone else, as far as I can tell.

Then you haven’t carefully considered the claims of Jesus Christ who did exactly that.

Then again, the Bible is full of Jewish and Christian mythology (The Flood, people living for hundreds of years, walking on water, being resurrected, etc.), albeit of somewhat greater vintage.

Yet if Jesus was who He said he was, then these “myths” become more credible.

I actually have given serious consideration the subject of the supernatural...and I've come to the conclusion that it's a load of dingo's kidneys (to invoke Douglas Adams). Sometimes things simply are absurd.

Basing one’s philosophy of life on the sayings of science fiction authors can be likened to living on sugar alone.

I would point out that there are some one and a half billion Muslims who would disagree with your characterization of your religion vs. theirs.

I would also point out that for those born into islam, beheadings and honor killings await those who critically evaluate the teachings of Mohammad and leave islam.

In any case, when looking for answers about the universe and history I look to science and, well, history.

But those two do not answer all the questions. Why is our planet and universe so completely fine tuned to support life? Jesus Christ is one of the best documented individual of ancient history – and his resurrection one of the most spectacular.

As for the answers to our existence...philosophy is a human invention, as is the very concept of "meaning", so it's up to us to figure it out and assign whatever meaning to our existence we see fit.

So are you satisfied to become a meaningless collections of molecular substances upon death after experiencing life? Would the claims of Christ who came from eternity to enlighten man and rose again to underscore those words mean more?

Some people do so by writing religious texts, some through philosophy.

And others by experiencing that which transcends both.

19 posted on 01/29/2010 9:45:48 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Thanks for your reply!

If I was playing football and clipped the quarterback.. the Reff would throw a flag on the field as a sign of my sin or my transgression of the Laws and absolutes of The Game of football.. I sinned (transgressed) against the game and thus am held accountable. 15 yard penalty.

The Ten Commandments are to SHOW us that we need a Savior (John 3:16,17). God gave them to us to help us comprehend that All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23)

God is going to hold every one accountable to the 10 commandments (His Righteous standard) and if we have broken just one we are doomed James 2:10.

If we just in our mind or heart break one of these commandments it shows us that we are broken… and are guilty before God the Righteous Judge.

Either 0% or 10%; I don’t recall ever hating my brother as such, but I certainly may have done so as a child.

.00001% is all it takes1

Jesus who lived an absolute righteous (perfect life) paid the penalty for our transgressions on the Cross. By faith when we receive God’s Savior we receive God’s pardon from our sins and eternal life. In Heaven only those who have placed their trust in Christ/Messiah will enter in.

That is what the test was stating. Think on it my friend… Are you perfect? Have you kept the 10 Commandments perfectly in mind and deed? Your not alone… all have sinned!

Then you need Almighty God’s pardon and forgiveness found in Jesus Christ. That’s the bottom line. Roms 6:23

Think it through my friend! I know I had to.. Then I saw I needed Him!

http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2009/04/take-gospel-of-john-challenge.html

This link might be helpful. If I can be of help let me know!

DJP


20 posted on 01/29/2010 4:09:55 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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