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Child Molestation by homosexuals and heterosexuals (Lots of Stats)
HOMILETIC & PASTORAL REVIEW (PDF) ^ | Brian W. Clowes and David L. Sonnier

Posted on 05/01/2010 5:01:11 AM PDT by GonzoII

Many homosexual leaders have admitted that
there is a natural link between
a homosexual orientation and child sexual abuse.

Child Molestation
by homosexuals
and heterosexuals

By Brian W. Clowes and David L. Sonnier

The Church has always had a small number of priests and other religious who have taken advantage of their positions of authority and influence in order to gain sexual favors or to take advantage of the helpless. The problem of clerical child sexual molestation, particularly in the United States, has been widely exposed and publicized over the last several years. The numerous recent revelations have exposed the problem as much deeper and more widespread than most would have previously believed.

During the current crisis, homosexual activists within and outside the Catholic Church have done everything they could to divert attention away from even the possibility that there may be a higher percentage of homosexuals among the priesthood than in the general public, and that this may be the root of the problem of child sexual molestation within the Church. It is particularly the link between homosexuality and child molestation that they seek to deny.

For example, Dignity USA kicked off its “Stop Blaming Gay Priests” campaign during the meeting of the United States Catholic Bishops Conference in Washington, D.C., November 10-13, 2002. The group said, “DigntyUSA [sic] is calling on the U.S. Catholic bishops to stop blaming gay priests for the clergy sexual abuse scandal. All credible evidence discounts any link between the molestation of children and homosexuality.”1

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicleague.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholic; crime; ephebophilia; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; pedophile; pedophilia; perverts
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
small fraction

By yours stats I do not consider 20% small.

Homosexual problem sounds better than pedophile problem so I can absolutely understand why the RCC would want to call it a homosexual problem from a PR perspective.

The fact is, if they were under 18 they were children, this means it was child rape.

Ask a hardened criminal in a maximum security prison, they can tell you the difference.
41 posted on 05/01/2010 9:01:40 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
The primary failure of the Church was in letting it happen, during the 50s, 60s and 70s, despite the constant prohibition against it.

You forgot to mention and consistently covering it up.
42 posted on 05/01/2010 9:02:54 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt
No, I didn't. I also said,

The Church tried to cover it up to prevent public scandal, and embarassment, and frankly, half the bishops were homosexuals themselves, and were thus compromised.

This is the other half of the equation. The Church has a homosexual priest problem. Homosexuals in the priesthood did what (some) homosexuals are wont to do, they engaged in chicken hawking.

And since a large fraction of the bishops were also homosexual, and a mutual blackmail system naturally existed among the whole Lavender Mafia, the bishops engaged in consistently covering it up.

Again, its primarily a homosexual problem.

43 posted on 05/01/2010 9:07:33 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: TSgt
""Don't blame us, others rape children too!™" - Roman Catholic Church."

That is a specious argument and you know it. Those that purport that the scandal is either exclusively Catholic or an officially sponsored Catholic Church activity are guilty of denial and are therefore complicit in the continued abuse of children within their own denominations. Those legitimately concerned for the victims do not obsess over one group of perpetrators while turning a blind eye to others unless their real agenda is the demise of the Catholic Church and not the plight of all victims of abuse.

44 posted on 05/01/2010 9:34:04 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
you know it

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

45 posted on 05/01/2010 9:39:41 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: TSgt
I don't see anyone being molested in that picture, either, unless you consider receiving communion to be molestation.

This article makes it crystal clear that the boys who were molested by Murphy were young adolescents.

46 posted on 05/01/2010 9:40:44 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: TSgt

Child rape is evil, no doubt. Anger however, can also lead to evil, truly if anger is a problem for you get help. Anger clouds your judgment, makes you do and say things that are themselves bad.


47 posted on 05/01/2010 9:44:12 AM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: TSgt; Dr. Brian Kopp

There were a few pedophile priests and many more queers who infiltrated the priesthood. (This was done by the Comintern/KGB on purpose from the 20’s through the 60’s to both Anglican and Catholic and Orthodox seminaries.) The Church has slowly, painfully moved to purge out that deviants and has eliminated almost all of the abusers. More, the Church now has systems in place that should prevent the problem from resurfacing other than as an occasional crime.


48 posted on 05/01/2010 9:48:45 AM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Campion; TSgt
This article makes it crystal clear that the boys who were molested by Murphy were young adolescents.

Thank you for this important clarification.

49 posted on 05/01/2010 9:58:49 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Lorica; Gamecock

SOP for Gamecock. He’s compensating for many inadequacies in his life.


50 posted on 05/01/2010 10:00:22 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Religion Moderator; TSgt
but do not make it personal.

Unless, of course, it's people like TSgt making it personal.

How about demonstrating some consistency in your "moderating".

51 posted on 05/01/2010 10:06:19 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


52 posted on 05/01/2010 10:06:35 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: TSgt
you don't feel the same way

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

53 posted on 05/01/2010 10:13:47 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: A.A. Cunningham; TSgt; Natural Law; All
As is stated on the Religion Forum guidelines (my profile page) - when one poster in a sidebar has been warned, all posters should consider themselves warned.

This is based on the principle that two wrongs do not make a right.

54 posted on 05/01/2010 10:15:58 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


57 posted on 05/01/2010 11:19:16 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
See post 55. You have multiple posters here who, when Catholics defend the Church and try to make proper Christian distinctions, accuse us of endorsing evil (i.e., "making it personal"). And they've been doing it for a long time, without correction.

How about a little "Fair and Balanced" in the moderation department, OK?

58 posted on 05/01/2010 11:25:11 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Religion Moderator; Dr. Brian Kopp
Dr. Kopp makes an excellent point. When someone makes an accusation about “Catholics” and I am a Catholic it is personal. When someone makes a false statement about what “Catholics believe” and I am a Catholic it is personal. When someone accuses Catholics of committing, endorsing or covering up grave evil and I am a Catholic it is personal. My ability to tolerate it because of the thickness of my skin does skin does not justify it.
59 posted on 05/01/2010 11:33:55 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
I just reviewed the Religion Moderators posts. It seems a lot more Catholics are warned not to "make it personal" than those attacking Catholics in particular and Catholicism in general.

In their defense, this may just be due to the number of Catholic posters and how often they post. But I did not see very many warnings directed towards the usual suspects who post the continuous nonsense against the Church on these threads.

60 posted on 05/01/2010 11:38:51 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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