Posted on 05/05/2010 8:06:26 PM PDT by Colofornian
PROVO, Utah -- The over-scheduled, over-involved and over-whelmed Mormon woman needs to do two things to de-stress, said two speakers at the recent Women's Conference at BYU: simply life and ask for God's help. "God placed us here to succeed," Sarah Westerberg said. "But mortality will cause stress. It's a natural byproduct."
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Her advice included...letting go of what cannot be controlled and ridding life of perfectionism.
She suggested adding two words to a working vocabulary: "Who cares?"
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(Excerpt) Read more at mormontimes.com ...
Lives next door now. Brother is in the old house.
And lick of intelligence...
I’d be stressed too, if I had to wear those dresses and hair styles. Dear God how awful!
Is that what you're now conceding you were attempting? To attack me for mere "entertainment" reasons?
My motivations are not a song & dance show. My motivations are to speak the truth. My motivations are to give air to what goes on in this neck of the U.S. woods & mtns. My motivations are to simply let these journalists speak; and I simply add the equivalent of some letters-to-the-editors.
80-90% of the threads I post are written by Lds/Utah sources. If you don't like it, then by all means, review the sources of my threads and send off e-mails to the publishers and managing editors. Tell them, that in your opinion, they need to do a "better" job of censoring their publications in this great land of a Free Republic.
(At least by doing so, you'd be following in the legacy of Joseph Smith, who when confronted with truth he didn't like, ordered his local goons to destroy the printing press and try to take out the First Amendment locally...which is what got him arrested...for some reason, that factoid seems to escape the official Lds tourist hosts @ the Nauvoo jail...which shows they are just more propaganda tools)
...you feel angry...
Are you projecting now? Angry at you? (No) Perhaps you may realize some of us are a bit more thick skinned than you understand. So please stop assuming things (you're not very good at it)
My husband loves this. He says I do all the work, control the kids and money and he gets to brag about how great I am at the city gates.
My Dad put Proverbs 31 on my mother’s grave..
“Proverbs 31:27-28”
You know, you have to prove someone wrong before you start in on character assassination. You can't just go around, hurling invectives at people, accusing them.
...please show me where the LDS church accuses ALL Christians of being apostates? Did I miss that in Sunday School class?
Now. Your assumption is that I'm "disengenous" (a politer way of calling me an outright liar). And why? Well, I won't accuse you of missing Sunday School class, because I realize Lds leaders often patronize their grassroots members and withhold what they deem as "meat" from them.
I could give you a NUMBER of citations. But let's just go with three right now in the interest of time. The question on the floor is, "Where does the LDS church accuse ALL Christians of being apostates?"
...many Christians reject the idea of a tangible, personal God and a Godhead of three separate beings. They believe that God is a spirit and that the Godhead is only one God. In our view, these concepts are evidence of the falling away we call the Great Apostasy" (Lds current apostle Dallin H. Oaks, Apostasy and Restoration, Ensign magazine, the OFFICIAL publication of the Mormon Church, Conference edition, May 1995, p. 84)
Question, and I expect a direct response: Were you THERE at the the April 1995 General Conference? If so, did you take notes?
"IN short, apostasy reigned supreme; it was universal, complete, all pervading. The religion of the lowly Nazarene was no where to be found. ALL SECTS, PARTIES AND DENOMINATIONS HAD GONE ASTRAY. Satan rejoiced and his angles laughed." (Lds apostle Bruce R. McConkie, "Once or Twice in a Thousand Years," Ensign magazine, OFFICIAL publication of the Mormon church, April 2005, p. 56 Reprinted Conference address).
Question, and I expect a direct response: Were you THERE at the the April 2005 General Conference? If so, did you take notes?
"This same course--for Lucifer has no new ideas, but merely applies what he already knows to new situations--has been followed in apostate Christendom. When there were no longer apostles and inspired men to give the Lord's message and word to living men, the world turned to interpreters--to scholars, to doctors of divinity, to theologians, to professors of religion-to set forth what they thought or imagined the divine word of former days meant. In the opening of our dispensation the Lord, after saying that the creeds of Christendom were 'an abomination in his sight...thens aid that 'those professors' (meaning all who...had by their interpretations and teachings perverted the truth and made it of none effect) 'were all corrupt.'" (Lds apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Mortal Messiah: From Bethlehem to Calvary, vol. 1, p. 251)
As you can see in this last quote, McConkie references this all as present tense..."has been followed in apostate Christendom" is a present-tense description of Christians in our generation.
Can I have yet another apology from you?
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I think his salvation here on earth demands he suck up to you and sing your praises “Sincerely”. LOL
Least he be judged in error, probably for the fourth time today and that is before noon.
But really, I do admire that woman in proverbs.
Your Mom must have been quite the mother and wife.
That is a pretty powerful verse to describe a loved one and your Dad must have loved her for all the earth.
Yet...you stopped by, made a comment, left a cryptic abbreviation (without explaining the meaning) and still said no thanks?
Why not just ignore it?
Curious.
I guess my first comment to you on this one -- did you ask this same Q of Mitt Romney when three years ago this very month, he said: "I have a great-great grandfather. They were trying to build a generation out there in the desert. And so he took additional wives as he was told to do. And I must admit, I can't imagine anything more awful than polygamy."
Source: Romney Slams Mormon Church's Past Practice
Is this why Utah Mormons tolerate polygamy by the fLDS? Because it's not apparently "odious" to you? And why did you raise this Q of me, when if you didn't ask it of Romney, means you hypocritically let Mormons slide by who have the same opinion as I do?
As for Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...the Bible says Isaac had one wife...it was Smith who claimed otherwise.
As for Jacob: Exactly half of the women who bore children to Jacob were concubines--slave women (Gen. 29:29; 35:22). Gen 35:22 shows us that even Jacob's adult son, Reuben, slept with one of these women, Bilhah. (Or are you gonna tell us that since Jacob's son slept with her, she was just the "family" plural wife for any adult male to sleep with...and that this was "righteous" behavior) Jacob intended one wife, Rachel. Deception, not God, was the author of Leah becoming his wife. And, having, slept with her, in that culture you just didn't throw a mature no-longer-virgin fish back into the pool. (So God is the author of deception in your eyes?)
That leaves Abraham. Abraham indeed took a second wife, Keturah, but did so AFTER Sarah's death (Gen. 25:1). But what about Hagar, you may ask?
Did not Abraham sleep with her and bear a son? (Yes he did). But did you not know that Hagar was also a servant -- and not even Abraham's servant, but his wife, Sarai's? Sarai alone told her to sleep with Abraham, and so Abraham slept with "the help."
Did Abraham ever reference her as his wife? (no)
How about the angel who appeared to Hagar? (No, he referenced Sarai as "her mistress")
What about Moses, who wrote about her in Gen. 21? (No)
What about the apostle Paul in Gal. 4:21-31? (No)
What about Hagar herself? Did she, in her conversation with the angel of the Lord, call herself the "wife" of Abraham? (No)
That means Sarai and Sarai alone called her a "wife." Yet, for all we know, Abraham may have slept with Hagar only once. And Hagar, having been told by her "master" -- the Bible uses the word "mistress" to describe a female master -- had no righs to object.
Are you now telling us -- you who have lived in a male patriarch Mormon culture -- that women like Sarai would have authority to authorize the institution of polygamy? (Her & Rachel & Leah) Really?
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob objected to polygamy (see Deut. 17:17; Lev. 18:18) Therefore, why don't you?
If a Mormon had posted the article, he could have designated it an “LDS Caucus.”
Pay them no mind teppe they have nothing but short term memory or are out right liars!
Whatever was said in the 1800’s is nothing compared to how the mainstream faiths treated each other since the time of the Reformation down through the ages the infighting among each other as they broke off into many denominations!
Somehow they keep forgetting that in families there were fighting among each other about religion.
Then came a time religion in the mainstream was lukewarm now it is warm again but mainstream had been through many cycles
You are so desperate to go back to 2007 LOL
Sorry. You are correct. I was assuming that it had been posted by a Mormon.
Is there an “expiration date” on what your prophets and apostles say to the “flock”?
Who are these "out right liars", restornu? The only person that teppe has pinged on this thread is Colofornian.
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