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Benedict XVI’s presser on plane to Portugal, clerical crisis and “third secret” (Catholic Caucus)
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| 05/11/2010
| Father Z.
Posted on 05/11/2010 8:01:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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Fascinating...
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:01:56 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:03:10 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
To: Pyro7480
attacks against the pope or the church dont come just from outside the church. Yes, such as Vatican II. "It will be clearer after 1960".
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:08:26 AM PDT
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
To: Pyro7480
Sure sounds like we didn’t get the whole secret.
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:09:43 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
Comment #5 Removed by Moderator
To: bigcat32; Pyro7480; Religion Moderator
This is a caucus, go discuss why churches shouldn’t have crosses on top of them somewhere else.
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:14:54 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: bigcat32; Religion Moderator
This is a Caucus thread. Please play by the rules. If you don’t know what they are, look at the Religion Moderator’s profile.
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:15:23 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
To: Pyro7480
Absolutely fascinating!
**but a fundamental response: permanent conversion, penance, prayer, and the three cardinal virtues: faith, hope and charity. One sees there the true, fundamental response the church must give, which each of us individually must give, in this situation.**
Also the attacks from within the church comment.
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:15:30 AM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation; Pyro7480
Also the attacks from within the church comment. I wonder if that was some sort of veiled jab at Schönborn.
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:19:23 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
Comment #10 Removed by Moderator
To: wagglebee
The wolves are both inside and outside the Church.
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:23:33 AM PDT
by
Lorica
To: bigcat32
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:24:39 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
To: Lorica
I pray that Benedict XVI is exactly the right man at the right time.
To: Pyro7480
I mean this totally sincerely and respectfully, why does this matter? I don’t understand the whole hoopla about the third secret. Maybe it was totally revealed, maybe it wasn’t. Does it really matter?
I’ve never understood the fervor that Fatima inspires. I’m much more Tepeyac Hill gal myself.
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:35:57 AM PDT
by
mockingbyrd
(Remember in November.)
To: wagglebee
To: Pyro7480
Cardinal Ratzinger wrote the theological commentary at the time of the release of the "Third Secret" in 2000. But Ive read several times that the interpretation of the vision as applying to the assassination attempt on JPII was contrived and advanced unilaterally by the Secretary of State at the time, not Cardinal Ratzinger.
In which case, the statement that The important point is that the message of Fatima in its substance is not addressed to particular situations could be interpreted as a repudiation of that interpretation by Pope Benedict XVI.
To: mockingbyrd
I dont understand the whole hoopla about the third secret. Maybe it was totally revealed, maybe it wasnt. Does it really matter? Ive never understood the fervor that Fatima inspires.I would guess the fact that it concerns these days would be part of it, that and the Miracle of the Sun.
Im much more Tepeyac Hill gal myself.
That's perfectly legitimate. I myself hope to venerate the Tilma.
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:51:57 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
To: Pyro7480
I would guess the fact that it concerns these days would be part of it, that and the Miracle of the Sun.
How so? Is that just the assumption, or is it known somehow? And how does the Miracle of the Sun fit in?
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posted on
05/11/2010 8:55:06 AM PDT
by
mockingbyrd
(Remember in November.)
To: mockingbyrd
Well, in one of the visions at Fatima, Our Lady predicted that during the pontificate of Pius XI, that a second world war would begin, and that a sign in the sky would signal this (I'm paraphrasing). In January 1938, a very unusual aurora appeared in the sky, weeks before Hitler annexed Austria.
As for the Miracle of the Sun, the fact that 70,000 witnessed it, religious and atheist alike, underscored the veracity of the message. According to one devotee, she [Our Lady] did this to underscore the fact that Fatima is one of the most important if not the most important message she has ever given in history."
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posted on
05/11/2010 9:11:57 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
To: Pyro7480
Oh....you were talking about why the strong devotion to Fatima. I thought you were talking about the third secret. I’m off to get some coffee....provided the children don’t kill themselves first, sounds like I should investigate.
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posted on
05/11/2010 9:32:20 AM PDT
by
mockingbyrd
(Remember in November.)
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