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Benedict XVI’s presser on plane to Portugal, clerical crisis and “third secret” (Catholic Caucus)
WDTPRS ^ | 05/11/2010 | Father Z.

Posted on 05/11/2010 8:01:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: Leoni

You can post to me all you want, as that is your freedom on this forum.

I have no common ground with your position, such as the statement that you know what God allows or uses as a means of punishment.

I won’t be answering any of your posts from now on, since I believe it would be an exercise in futility.

You have also made recent comments about the last three popes being “modernists” and that “modernists are pernicious heretics”.

This speaks volumes. It almost sounds sedavacantist.


51 posted on 05/11/2010 7:25:11 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: mockingbyrd
re: You should avoid making things personal and mind reading

There is no mind reading, you wrote "it hasn’t played a significant role in my spiritual life"

I responded that you must not know about Fatima, and proceeded to show how it has been the most significant event to billions who have suffered from communism. To say Fatima "is not significant in my life", like it's some kind of a chaplet of Divine Mercy or other such devotion among thousands, tells me that you know nothing about Fatima.

What else do you want me to conclude from your OWN WORDS, that you don't believe in Fatima at all, or that you don't care about all those dead and enslaved by communism? I was being charitable in saying you don't know about Fatima and are naive.

52 posted on 05/11/2010 7:26:46 PM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni

I cannot for the life of me follow your train of thought.

But, should you want to convice people of the significance of private revelation, I would take a less pugnacious track. Insulting fellow Catholics’ spiritual lives and making assumptions about their personal devotions isn’t the best way to spread Our Lady’s message.


53 posted on 05/11/2010 8:44:33 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: Leoni
Vatican II is a punishment from God.

HERESY! If the Holy Spirit was not present at Vatican II, you need to put up some proof outside of the mal-application of its constitution by liberal bishops who took great liberties that were not theirs to take. To call it a punishment from God is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, end of story.

And Robert Sungenis went off the deep end long ago. Another apostate.

54 posted on 05/11/2010 9:52:17 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
re: If the Holy Spirit was not present at Vatican II you need to put up some proof

Straw man! Neither Sungenis nor I said the Holy Spirit was not present at Vatican II.,/p>

It was precisely because the Holy Spirit was at Vatican II, that the heretical wishes of the progressives were not allowed to be declared as infallible doctrine. Vatican II is a punishment from God because He allowed the ambiguous language (the time bombs) to be entered into the documents, so that the false Catholics would manifest themselves, and the sooner amputate their gangrene, themselves from the body.

By the way, I'd advise you to rethink this knee-jerk tactic of calling people heretics and apostates, you have no authority to make it stick. Only Rome has the authority to declare someone an apostate and heretic.

55 posted on 05/12/2010 5:36:13 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni

“I’d advise you to rethink this knee-jerk reaction of calling people heretics....you have no authority to make it stick”

Follow your own advice.


56 posted on 05/12/2010 5:44:17 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty
You have also made recent comments about the last three popes being “modernists” and that “modernists are pernicious heretics”.

You seem to be stalking my every word. That's OK with me. Is there a way of seeing everything someone else has posted? I had to go back a long way to find where I mentioned those descriptions.

To answer you:

Do everyone on FR a favor and copy and paste EXACTLY what a person said, or don't write anything. To do otherwise, can only lead to no good.

It is Pope Pius X who said that “modernists are pernicious heretics”. It is also Pius X who defined in great detail (an entire encyclical and then some) what a modernist is. It is Pope Pius X who made the clergy take the anti-modernist oath. If a person writes enough, manifests himself, over many years, teaching what Pius X has showed us is modernism, then the person is a modernist.

Not just the last three popes, John XXIII, Paul VI, JPII, B16 are all modernists and progressives. As are like all the bishops.

In 359 A.D, St. Jerome wrote : "the whole (Catholic Church)world groaned and marveled to find itself Arian".

Where are the Arians today? The Church is not changed by man for very long.

In case any of you had not noticed The Church Militant, since Vatican II, has been living in a great falling away from the Faith by it's leaders and laity, worse than the Arian heresy.

The Church will still be around long after the progressives are a forgotten blip in history.

57 posted on 05/12/2010 7:40:38 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: Pyro7480

I am not a Catholic....and I have never known about ‘Fatima’ before until a few days ago and have done some research. Fascinating stuff. I’m ‘all eyes and ears’.


58 posted on 05/12/2010 7:38:35 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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