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I was upset with a substitute priest at Mass

Posted on 05/30/2010 10:12:21 AM PDT by Sun

When my husband and I went to Mass last evening, unfortunately our parish priest was ill, so a guest priest said Mass.

When he read the Gospel, he changed He to she. Later the substitute priest said we really don't know if the Holy Spirit is a he or a she.

Later he said, wouldn't the altar girl make a good priest some day, even though the Vatican said women priests is a closed issue. It won't happen.

There were a few other things, but those were the things that bothered me the most.

Here is the gospel, where he changed He to she:

"Jesus said to his disciples: "I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you."


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: apostolicnuncio; catholiccaucus; notifybishop; priestshortage
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To: Sun
Actually as I understand it, Cardinal O'Connor let Rudy and all other politicians who were pro choicers know that they should NOT come up to receive the Blessed Sacrament.

Rudy never did, and even under Cardinal Egan's time at St Patrick's this remained in affect.

Heck Cardinal O'Connor had to be dead for the Clinton's to get into St Patricks.

61 posted on 05/30/2010 11:15:52 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: MozarkDawg

Which is why inflected languages with gender, (ie, Greek and Hebrew), refer to God as male. God the Father.


62 posted on 05/30/2010 11:17:36 AM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: vladimir998

Looks like the anti catholics have found the thread.


63 posted on 05/30/2010 11:17:49 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: BenKenobi

Exactly so and in good part why so many of us are outraged over this kind of ridiculousness, especially from someone who seemingly attended Seminary, learned his own Latin, Greek, Hebrew, etal.


64 posted on 05/30/2010 11:19:21 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: wardaddy
BINGO

Nothing sez “Bite me” quite like standing up in a service, yelling “Heretic” and storming out.

65 posted on 05/30/2010 11:19:21 AM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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To: Sun

A few years back, I accompanied our youth to a servanthood week in D.C., where we worked at Martha’s Table all week. We attended worship that Sunday at the National Cathedral. It happened to be Pentecost that Sunday and the priest spoke of the Holy Spirit as she. When I asked about it, my pastor said that the Greek could be translated that way, with the Holy Spirit being feminine. I wonder if any of the pastors on board here would care to comment....


66 posted on 05/30/2010 11:20:28 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Sun
A month or two ago a substitute priest preformed our 9:30am mass. He came off like a flamboyant homosexual. All the stereotypical mannerisms; “cute” stories, playing around, etc. It was what I imagine being in a trendy hair salon in San Francisco is like. At one point he tried to make everyone sing “all you need is love...’you know, from the 60’s.’ Being on candid camera came to mind.

Emailed the Bishops office. After an exchange of emails they seemed to conclude they he will not be substituting again. I gave up pressing the issue when I was having to say...”hello morons...there is a extremely good chance you have a homosexual in the Church!”

To top this all off we lost our last priest to homosexual allegations which were proven true. But he was not as flamboyant as the substitute.

67 posted on 05/30/2010 11:21:38 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Dutchboy88

You wrote:

“After all, when men like this goofball stands up as “alter christus” and claims to be an intermediary between God and man, then call the Holy Spirit a woman and look longingly at the little altar girl, this is one ordained by headquarters, not you.”

What evidence do you have that he “look longingly at the little altar girl”?

“Clothed in his garb of distinction, performing the Mass, giving some wafer & wine to once again openly crucify the Son of Glory...”

Christ can’t be crucified again in the Mass.

Stooping to completely things up like this says quite a bit about a poster.


68 posted on 05/30/2010 11:21:41 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: mware

“Actually as I understand it, Cardinal O’Connor let Rudy and all other politicians who were pro choicers know that they should NOT come up to receive the Blessed Sacrament.”

It sounds familiar to me, but I can’t remember if it was Cardinal O’Connor or Cardinal Eagan, but I like it, and it should always be done.


69 posted on 05/30/2010 11:21:45 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Was he a Methodist?


70 posted on 05/30/2010 11:22:42 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Vision

“Emailed the Bishops office. After an exchange of emails they seemed to conclude they he will not be substituting again.”

I hope we get the same results.


71 posted on 05/30/2010 11:23:42 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: mware

Found it and decided to relieve themselves in it apparently.


72 posted on 05/30/2010 11:24:23 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Sun


Don't Mess With the Almighty!




73 posted on 05/30/2010 11:25:07 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: Sun

Yes, he should be reported. Too bad you didn’t bring rotten tomatoes to Mass. I have heard of parishioners standing and turning their backs to priests who are offensive, but do not have to deal with this. uck. Guy should be an Episcopalian.


74 posted on 05/30/2010 11:25:33 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: mware

That sounds good.

Calling sin what it is!


75 posted on 05/30/2010 11:26:02 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: All; aberaussie

“I wonder if any of the pastors on board here would care to comment....”

Do we have any Catholic clerics who are FReepers. If so, I hope someone will inform them about this thread by Freep Mail.


76 posted on 05/30/2010 11:26:14 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Besides your Bishop, also write a letter (or call) to the Apostolic Nuncio, Pietro Sambi. Request that he advise the Pope that this heretic is still running around misleading the faithful:

Archbishop Pietro Sambi

Type of Jurisdiction: Nunciature
Elevated: 10 January 1984
Diplomatic Post
Country: United States of America

Mailing Address: 3339 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W, Washington, DC, USA
Telephone: (202)333-7121
Fax: 337-4036


77 posted on 05/30/2010 11:26:39 AM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: mware; vladimir998; BenKenobi

They are agenda-driven and their agenda is their “witness”.


78 posted on 05/30/2010 11:26:58 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Sun

Contacting Raymond is also a good idea!


79 posted on 05/30/2010 11:28:31 AM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: Sun

But if the Bishop’s office doesn’t want to investigate a possible homosexual priest, then they deserve these abuse cases. It’s really tragic and infuriating!


80 posted on 05/30/2010 11:29:43 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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