Posted on 06/02/2010 1:47:13 PM PDT by reaganaut
Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, or simply Jesus, is the central figure of Christianity. The life and sermons of Jesus form the basis of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ is recognized by believing Christians as God incarnate, the Son of God who was raised from the dead—the Redeemer of mankind—the most important figure in history.
According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. However, it seems that even the perceived Savior of the world is not exempt from LDS temple rituals. Proxy rites for Jesus Christ were performed in the Salt Lake (LDS) Temple in Utah, in April 2010. The Salt Lake Temple, located on Temple Square in the heart of Mormon-dominated Salt Lake City, was dedicated on April 6, 1893—three years before Utah became a state in 1896—and is one of the oldest of the 132 currently operating temples that are owned and maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)
New FamilySearch is the online genealogy database of the LDS Church that contains updated details of LDS temple ordinances that have been done for dead people. There are multiple listings for Jesus Christ in New FamilySearch—under different versions of his identity—which have been submitted by individual Mormons. It is not known how many times Jesus has been subjected to LDS rites because all New FamilySearch records for him—including combined records—show LDS ordinance details as “Not Available.”
On May 27, 2010, there were two similar records for Jesus in New FamilySearch which had been submitted by the same person. One listing was titled “Jesus Christian,” and showed “Jesus Christian” was born “before 1500 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1550 Jerusalem, Israel.” LDS ordinances were tagged as “Not available” on this record. The other entry was for “Jesus Cristian,” who was born “before 1502 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1539 Jerusalem, Israel.” The entry for “Jesus Cristian” gave a description of LDS ordinances, along with the name of a spouse—“Maria Magdelena.”
“Jesus Cristian” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” “Jesus Cristian” was also subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and a marriage “sealing” to “spouse” “Maria Magdelena” on April 9, 2010—all rites occurred in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristian” to get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”
While both New FamilySearch records in question lack complete birth and death data, and give imprecise “before” years of these events—the first name “Jesus” combined with the surnames “Christian” and “Cristian” (both spins on the name of “Christ”) are signs that “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” are pseudonyms for Jesus Christ.
Other indicators on the New FamilySearch records that point to Jesus Christ are the birth place, “Bethlehem,” and the death location, “Jerusalem.” (Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem and died outside the walls of old Jerusalem.) Another clue to the identity of “Jesus Cristian” is the name of his “spouse”—“Maria Magdelena,” a misspelled variant of Mary Magdalene. “Maria Magdelena” is not listed on the “Jesus Christian” record.
Because “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” have similar names and identical birth and death locations—“Bethlehem” and “Jerusalem,” they are probably the same person. Their birth and death years are similar, but not the same. The estimated dates listed for these events look like they have been fabricated. According to their New FamilySearch records, “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” were born and died in the 16th century. “Jesus Christian” lived roughly 50 years, while “Jesus Cristian” died in his thirties.
On May 27, 2010, “Maria Magdelena” was listed in New FamilySearch with her birth date as “1504 Israel,” and death date as “before 1540 Israel.” Both years are likely inventions. Along with “spouse” “Jesus Cristian,” “Maria Magdelena” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and the marriage “sealing” to “Jesus Cristian” on April 9, 2010—all rites were done in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
Mary Magdalene is described in the New Testament as a faithful follower of Jesus. Because the concept of marriage is strongly emphasized in LDS teachings, the notion that a spousal relationship existed between Jesus and Mary Magdalene is common among Mormons—although that belief is not formal LDS doctrine. There is no reliable historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was married—to Mary Magdalene, or anyone else.
LDS Church officials have publicly stated that the New FamilySearch program is a technological deterrent to improper submissions. Yet—under their very noses—on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, Jesus Christ—under a false name—two millennia after his birth, was offered Mormon salvation and an erroneous eternal marriage sealing.
Sometime late in the day on May 27, 2010, the individual entries for “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” were scrubbed from New FamilySearch—concealing the evidence that LDS rites had recently been performed for these two names in the Salt Lake Temple. The sudden disappearance of these records is a strong indication that “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” represent Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.
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You are in bed with a strange one, reaganaut.
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Thats suggestive and indecent...
Good point. How can the baptizer do any baptising before he was baptised?
How could JTB be baptized if he didn't marry and leave ancestors who could do the deed 2000 years later?
And why is "baptize" spelled with a "z" sometimes and an "s" others?
Hold the phone. If you think that Mormons and our beliefs are just goofy nonsense, then why do you care what we do? In other words, if you do not believe that “sealings” are real, then what does it matter to you?
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Because it is BLASPHEMY and we, as Christians, are going to defend the love of our lives (Christ).
And we want to see you out of that cult that is going to drag you to hell.
Oh, by the way, Helen Radkey is some weirdo new-age freak and most certainly obsessed with trying to discredit The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
You are in bed with a strange one, reaganaut.
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I am not ‘in bed’ with her. I don’t even know her personally. Although I do appreciate the fact that she exposes these things.
Mormonism is a damnable heresy.
Why is Jesus’ birthdate listed as before 1502, Bethlehem, Israel? Couldn’t they at least have listed his date at birth a little closer to the estimated historical date?
Why did they use 1502? Are they that intellectually lazy?
The level of delusion needed to stay a mormon once one gets sucked in and learns what it really teaches is breathtaking.
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Agreed. That is probably why I was a member less than 10 years. Once I started to get the ‘meat’ doctrines and temple rituals, then things unraveled quickly.
Why did they use 1502? Are they that intellectually lazy?
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I don’t know. It has been almost 20 years since I’ve done genealogy. It is possible that 1502 is the earliest the computer program will allow for.
Its not goofy its damning and blasphemous.
How can the baptizer do any baptising before he was baptised?
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I saw that earlier today in another thread I think...
Where was that ???
there was a source etc...
I’m not going to be silenced, Saundra.
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Nor I.
2 Corinthians 11:12-13
And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
It is possible that 1502 is the earliest the computer program will allow for.
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Oh o
There is a problemn Houston ...
LOL
And if he was a good Mormon, and he should be if anyone was, certainly he is a god by now.
So really it would be a lateral transfer...
That is a heckuva suggestion...I think it ought to be sent right up to the headquarters in SLC!
I’m not going to be silenced, Saundra.
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Nor I.
2 Corinthians 11:12-13
And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
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Me too...
WOW
Please leave us alone to practice our faith and we will do the same for you.
But you (2nd person pl) aren't leaving others alone to practice THEIR faith so you(2nd person pl) aren't doing the same for us.
However, if you're serious, have the LDS recall all your missionaries and tell them to stop banging on people's doors spreading their lies. Until then, people are going to warn others to alert them to the nonsense that Mormonism teaches.
Preach it sister....
Amen!
;)
The Mormon Apostle Orson Hyde made these statements: "It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana at Galilee:...no less a person than JESUS CHRIST WAS MARRIED on that occasion. (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pg. 259-260)
"I will venture to say that if Jesus Christ were now to pass through the most pious countries in Christendom with a TRAIN OF WOMEN, such as used to follow him he would be mobbed, tarred, and feathered, and rode not on an ***, but on a rail. . . (Mormon Apostle Orson Hyde - Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pg. 259-260)
On another occasion Brigham Young (2nd Pres. of the Mormon Church) stated: "The Scripture says that He, the LORD, came walking in the Temple, with HIS TRAIN; I do not know who they were, unless HIS WIVES AND CHILDREN: . . ."(Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, page 309)
"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that JESUS CHRIST WAS MARRIED at Cana of Galilee, (Mormon - Journal of Discourses Vol. 2. page 210)
THAT MARY, MARTHA, AND OTHERS WERE HIS [Jesus] WIVES, AND THAT HE BEGAT CHILDREN. (Mormon - Journal of Discourses Vol. 2. page 210)
before mankind learn all the particulars of Christ's incarnation how and by whom he was begotten; the character of the relationships formed by that act; the NUMBER OF WIVES AND CHILDREN HE HAD. . . . " (Mormon - Millennial Star Vol. 15. page 825)
We have also proved that both God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ inherit THEIR Wives IN ETERNITY as well as in time; . . . " (Mormon Apostle Pratt The Seer. page 172)
The Mormon Apostle Orson Pratt stated: ". . .it will be seen that the GREAT MESSIAH who was the founder of the Christian religion, WAS A POLYGAMIST " (The Seer. page 172)
[Jesus] by MARRYING MANY honorable WIVES himself, show to all future generations that HE approbated the PLURALITY OF WIVES under the Christian dispensation, as well as under the dispensation in which His Polygamist ancestors lived. " (Mormon Apostle Pratt The Seer. page 172)
"We have now clearly shown that GOD THE FATHER HAD A PLURALITY OF WIVES, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His first Born, and another being upon the earth by whom He begat the tabernacle of Jesus " (Mormon Apostle Pratt The Seer. page 172)
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