Posted on 08/05/2010 5:00:51 PM PDT by wmfights
Edited on 08/05/2010 8:15:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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GREAT TOPIC.
I’m not sure how it can procede without talking about opponents perspectives . . . which would remove the caucus designation . . . LOL.
Thanks for this, wmfights! Let me read the link you posted and I’ll be back...it’s so good to see you posting again, I’ve missed your great insights!
I think the link to the article is pretty balanced. I'm not sure why we would need to talk about other opinions, within dispensationalism there are a variety of views.
I would have to say back in the days of Abraham, when the promise was made.
Pentecost (feast of weeks) after Christ’s resurrection.
Understanding that the Book of Acts is a transition period is crucial to understanding dispensational teaching.
1). the change from Law to Grace. 2). From the Gospel of the Kingdom to the Gospel of the Grace of God. 3). From a kingdom of believers to a body of believers. 4). the temporary setting aside and blindness of Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
I would disagree because that still only involved Jews. They considered believing in Jesus to be "The Way" and still followed temple worship.
I think the stoning of Stephen is the final rejection and the Christian Church started with Paul.
The author leaves out an important translation of Ephraem the Syrian A.D. 373.
This was an ancient document which was not translated from Latin into English until 1995.
You can find the citation and complete analysis in Grant Jeffrey’s book FINAL WARNING Frontier Research Publications.
Wow, that's interesting I hadn't thought of that. However, the Body of Christ isn't held to the law.
It took me the longest time to realize they are different. I think the big stumbling block was realizing it wasn't until Paul that the Gospel of Grace was preached.
THank you, I will look for that. Is this another theologian that believed there are different economies/dispensations?
Peter is speaking to Jews, on their celebration of Pentecost, not to Jews and Gentiles. Acts Chapters One through Three make it clear. Peter does not speak of Christ dying for our sins, being buried and being raised on the third day for our sins, because he did not know this at that time. His message was a call to repentance for Israel, in order that the times of refreshing would come and Christ would return and set up His kingdom. He was preaching EXACTLY what Christ commissioned him to preach.
Sorry, I don’t get your reference.
Jesus said (Luke 24:48-49) “You are witnesses of these things. And behold I am sending forth the promise of My Father upon you but you are to STAY IN THE CITY UNTIL YOU ARE CLOTHED WITH POWER FROM ON HIGH.” (caps mine)
The “Power from on high” was the Holy Spirit, which came on the Church on Pentecost.
That “Power” changed Peter from an illiterate fisherman to one of the most articulate speakers in history...
that “Power” began the Church.
Different, no.
Jeffrey was addressing (IMO) and putting to death the argument that despensationalism began with Darby.
That would depend on a number of factors.
One could say when Christ began His ministry.
One could say the Upper Room.
One could say in Acts 2.
One could say when God promised Adam a Savior—although quite a stretch, that one.
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