Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock
I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.
I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.
But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.
I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!
A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."
I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."
I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?
And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."
God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).
Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.
So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.
I’m bigot? Why are you member of a organization that kept blacks from joining until 1979?
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That was 1978 that the mormons were told by their mormon god to let black MEN join...
Still in 30 years there never has been a black man in high office...
and the only Native American who reached the Warrant Officer level was gotten rid of early...
Yes the mormon top echolons are still “white and delightsome” in 2010
In the 19802 Mormon kids told my Christian children that they were going to Hell because they were not mormons...
What matters to me as a Roman Catholic is the state of my own soul. What matters to me as a Roman Catholic is to love my brother as myself. What matters to me as a Roman Catholic is to engage with others with the humility that our Lord Jesus Christ has asked of us.
Does not feel too great to hear that as a child does it? So why don’t we all stop it?
I hope so.
In the 1980s Mormon kids would stand at the fence dividing our church fr54om the nmormon ward house and yell at my Christian children that they were going to Hell because they were not mormons...
The children were egged on by the mormon adults who used to laugh and taunt my little 3 year old girl when she would cry ...
Unfortunately that was the only way to get from the parking lot to the door...
When our pastor spoke to the mormon officials, he was mocked and maligned...
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams, October 11, 1798
I am sorry for your trials at the hands of morons.
I too have the scars of protestant children belittling our faith and my own mother whom they called a whore because she walked up to the corner every day dressed to go to work in town and took the bus.... of course this was in between our prayers and worship to Cleopatra.
There is much ignorance in the world and I think we are truly called to battle it with acceptance and love for our brothers and sisters. Even if they are not “saved” in our eyes.
Do you truly believe that Beck staged his gathering to destroy Christianity?
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WHAT ???
Is that what you believe ???
Do you truly believe that Beck staged his gathering to destroy Christianity?
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Nothing will ever destroy Christianity...
Jesus built His church and said that NOTHING would ever prevail against her...Matthew 16:18
and NOTHING ever has...
Moslems, Mormons, Heavens Gate, Jim Jones, David Karesh...
None of them got rid of Christianity and replaced what the LORD Jesus Christ of the Christian Bible built...
Although they all tried...and badly failed..
Nobody can fight God and win...
Not Lucifer, not Mohammad, not Joey Smith...
I think we are truly called to battle it with acceptance and love for our brothers and sisters. Even if they are not “saved” in our eyes.
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If they are not saved, then they are not our brothers and sisters...
We are living in exciting times...
Be of good courage..
No. I actually believe he loves this country (unlike the pretender-in-chief). I don’t think his movement has anything to do with turning everyone into a Mormon. I do believe he would like to see the next generation taught American history and American values. Love of God is a great part of it. Respect for all as to freedom of religion is also a part of it.
Yes they are... Jesus accepted the sinner and the saint. God created us all. Who are you to judge this? I do believe it is in the hands of someone much greater than you.
You read me...
Yep, I've felt that also. Unshakeably so.
“I actually believe he loves this country”
Ive heard nothing to the contrary..
“I don’t think his movement has anything to do with turning everyone into a Mormon. “
That neither of us knows... The mormon missionaries are taught not to give people all the facts...”no meat, just milk”...However “every mormon a missionary” is an actual mormon teaching...Plus the big AD push for the new and improved image... the repackaged mormon...Beck makes a good front man...
“I do believe he would like to see the next generation taught American history “
Except hes been teaching Revisionist American History to this one... Mormon apologist Cleon Skousen’s 5,000 year Leap is not true American history... No Jews came here from Jerusalem and became the American Indians as Beck said on Saturday...
“Love of God is a great part of it.”
SIGH.. but which “god” ???
“Respect for all as to freedom of religion is also a part of it.”
Fine...but I wonder how many of the Christians who showed up knew that was Becks intention ???
I wonder how many Jews that showed up were told ahead of time that a Moslem Imam was going to have center stage ???
Did beck deliberately lie to the attendees before saturday ???
Or was he so carried away by his excitement over the coming event that he failed to see that not everyone would vbe as enthused as he about “Respect for all as to freedom of religion” to the point of having to listen to Moslem Imams ???
Whether or not the Imam ever said one word, the authority and validation that Beck gave Islam by having the guy there on the stage with him in the place of high “honor” above the crowd and above Christian pastors down in the reflecting pool area, cannot be ignored..
Thats how the Imam would have seen the situation...
Did he even mention ahead of time that his intented program included that possibility ???
My Step-Dad went to an LDS funeral several years ago and said he’d never heard a better Salvation sermon than the one preached at that funeral.
I believe some meet the Biblical criteria for a salavation relationship with Jesus.
That doesn’t change the occult horrific origins of their founding documents and charlatans.
Yes, I went to a Christian funeral once where we were instructed to pray and ask the angels to come down and take “our sister’s” soul back to Heaven with them...
We werent family and we were sitting politely at the back...
When my children started to say “WHAT ???” I shushed them and whispered not to pray that and we’d talk later...
Even at 5 and 10 they knew that the dead womans spirit had already gone elsewhere...
They were indignant to say the least...
Right then I prayed that one day I would get to preach a funeral and about 4 years later I was asked to...
I gave an alter call at the funeral home and another one at the grave site...
Funerals are always good places for a harvest...
That day was no different...
think we are truly called to battle it with acceptance and love for our brothers and sisters. Even if they are not “saved” in our eyes.
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If they are not saved, then they are not our brothers and sisters...
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