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The Amish come to Israel, ask Jews for forgiveness
Israel Today ^

Posted on 12/01/2010 2:24:01 PM PST by Amerisrael

In a seemingly unprecedented move, a group of Amish Christians from the US made widespread use of modern technology - including airplanes, tour buses and even iPhones - in order to come to Israel and apologize to the Jews.

The Amish are most notable to outsiders for their shunning of the technological conveniences that have made life so fast-paced for everyone else. But they did not shy away from using whatever means necessary to accomplish what they viewed as the vitally important task of making things right between their community and Israel.

The Amish, both in the US and Europe, have a long history of anti-Semitism and have traditionally been firm proponents of Replacement Theology, which claims that God cast aside the Jews for their widespread rejection of Jesus as their messiah. Many Amish once believed the Nazi Holocaust was God’s punishment for that rejection of Jesus, and actually applauded Hitler.

“We are here to say we are sorry,” group leader Ben Girod told Israel’s Channel 2 News as the group visited the Western Wall in Jerusalem. “God reminded me that this is not who He is. We no longer want to reject you or look at you as not being God’s people. You were God’s people long before we were.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: amish; faithandphilosophy; israel; replacement; replacementtheology; theology
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To: mas cerveza por favor

There is nothing at all in the article indicating that the Amish have embraced dispensationalism.


61 posted on 12/02/2010 6:41:57 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: Westbrook

Well did not the apostle Paul say that the gentles are “grafted” unto being part of God’s people, as in Romans Chapter 10?


62 posted on 12/02/2010 6:42:42 AM PST by Biggirl (GO UCONN!!!!:)=^..^=)
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To: mas cerveza por favor; GiovannaNicoletta

Once AGAIN

we’ll document the falseness of your UnBiblical, Unhistorically accurate assertions:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2390078/posts


63 posted on 12/02/2010 6:53:00 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Biggirl

> Well did not the apostle Paul say that the gentles
> are “grafted” unto being part of God’s people, as in
> Romans Chapter 10?

Yes, but not as one of the Tribes of Israel mentioned in Revelation 12.

As Christians we are a branch grafted onto the tree that sprouted the original branches of the Tribes of Israel. We are not one of those branches.

See Job 14:7-9 for a blessing.


64 posted on 12/02/2010 7:13:03 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Amerisrael

Wow, that’s amazing.


65 posted on 12/02/2010 7:33:01 AM PST by agrace
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To: Quix
We have repeatedly documented that that assertion is thoroughly false. Darby was a Johnny Come Lately to the Biblical truths about Israel, the END TIMES and dispensations.

Please provide documentation of anyone who interpreted the Bible as dispensationalist prior to John Darby.

66 posted on 12/02/2010 7:46:17 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: John Leland 1789
There is nothing at all in the article indicating that the Amish have embraced dispensationalism.

The article uses the pejorative term "replacement theology" to describe traditional Christian beliefs. Anti-Semitism and NAZI sympathies are represented as the consequence of traditional Christianity. That is dispensationalist.

67 posted on 12/02/2010 7:50:15 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: bareford101
the country stands as an example of how God is patient and faithful to a very unfaithful people.....kind of like us.

So God is patient with all sorts of disobedient nations. How exactly is the present situation with secular Israel different?

68 posted on 12/02/2010 7:54:08 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: mas cerveza por favor; GiovannaNicoletta

I did.

We’ve done so on FR many, many times.

Still REPLACEMENTARIANS

seem to prefer to peddle falsehoods about that as they do about Scriptural truths.


69 posted on 12/02/2010 8:01:05 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Hopefully they did not also join John Hagee in rejecting Jesus' coming as Christ and Messiah.

Better than embracing your slander against Hagee. His actual point, which he had to make more clear in the second printing of the book in question since some people seem incapable of handling a bit of hyperbole, was that Yeshua's intent in the First Coming was not to be the Annointed (Mashiach, Christos) King, but to bear Israel's sins as a sacrifice.

Which is true.

May I suggest that you actually read the quote in context before getting incensed about it next time.

Shalom.

70 posted on 12/02/2010 8:01:51 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
The term "replacement theology" is a false, pejorative insult against traditional Christianity.

The fact that your particular replacementist heresy is as old as gnosticism does not make it any less false.

71 posted on 12/02/2010 8:10:22 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Let's see: Calling a theology "replacement" because it claims that the Church has replaced national Israel vs. calling a theology a heresy because you happen to disagree with it . . .

I say, is that a beam in your eye?

72 posted on 12/02/2010 8:13:51 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Westbrook

We’re the evangelical arm of Judaism - we bring heathens and pagans to knowledge of the Hebrew God via Christ.


73 posted on 12/02/2010 8:18:24 AM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: SunkenCiv
We’re the evangelical arm of Judaism - we bring heathens and pagans to knowledge of the Hebrew God via Christ.

Thanks for the ping.

74 posted on 12/02/2010 8:19:45 AM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: GOPJ
LOL I like that description.

Shalom.

75 posted on 12/02/2010 8:21:20 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
The fact that your particular replacementist heresy is as old as gnosticism does not make it any less false.

Who did the original Hebrew Christians "replace"? Were they not simply remaining faithful to God by accepting their prophesied Messiah at the time of their visitation? Obviously, the term "replacement theology" would have sounded ridiculous to them, as it does to any honest person today.

76 posted on 12/02/2010 8:22:48 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Buggman

Now now.

If . . . Rabid clique types could not distort Scripture, reality and history

all out of whack to fit their twisted notions,

they might not have a reason to get up in the morning!

/s


77 posted on 12/02/2010 8:28:24 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Buggman

The fact that your particular replacementist heresy is as old as gnosticism does not make it any less false.


INDEED TO THE MAX.


78 posted on 12/02/2010 8:29:59 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Buggman
Better than embracing your slander against Hagee. His actual point, [...] was that Yeshua's intent in the First Coming was not to be the Annointed (Mashiach, Christos) King, but to bear Israel's sins as a sacrifice.

Thank you for making one of my points. Hagee preaches that Jesus did not yet come as Christ. Logically then, Hagee and his followers should not continue to call themselves Christians. Agreed?

79 posted on 12/02/2010 8:33:44 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Quix; GiovannaNicoletta
Please provide documentation of anyone who interpreted the Bible as dispensationalist prior to John Darby.
I did. We’ve done so on FR many, many times.

I doubt that because in the 1800 years of glorious Christian civilization prior to Darby, there were no dispensationalists. He and CI Scofield were 19th Century revivalist hucksters peddling religious novelty. Tim LaHaye and John Hagee continue the lucrative $cam.

80 posted on 12/02/2010 8:46:22 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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