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Virgin Mary is 165 centimetres tall, a visionary says in a new book
Croatian Times ^ | 1/9/2011

Posted on 01/09/2011 9:07:21 AM PST by Alex Murphy

The Virgin Mary is a blue eyed teenage girl that appears taller than she is because she stands on a cloud.

That is according to a new book that has carried out exclusive interviews with the the visionaries of Medjugorje, who first saw her 30 years ago this year when they were schoolchildren.

On June 24, 1981, six children in the town of Medjugorje, in then Yugoslavia, began to experience phenomena which they alleged to be apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

The apparition they saw had a message of peace for the world, as well as a call to conversion, prayer and fasting.

The message has gained a strong following among Catholics worldwide and Međugorje has become one of the most popular pilgrimage sites attracting over 30 million pilgrims since the apparitions began in 1981.

On June 4, 2008, Pope Benedict XVI blessed a statue of Our Lady of Međugorje in Saint Peter's Square, Vatican City.

In the new book "Medjugorje - 30 years of a phenomenon" authors Marijan Sivric and Ivo Scepanovic have spoken to the schoolchildren - now adults - who said they are surprised that people so often ask "what does she look like".

Visionary Vicka Ivanković said: "She is only 165 centimetres tall, and probably weighs about 60 kilos."

She added the Lady is dressed in a grey gown and a white veil covering her black hair, adding: "She has a crown of golden stars, blue eyes, rosy cheeks, and she floats on a silver cloud. She never stands on the ground."

The visionaries counted 12 stars above her head, and said she looked to be around 18 years old - but not more than 20.

The book is probably the most complete edition about Medjugorje in 30 years of the phenomenon, collecting all the important details at one place with numerous photo images.

It can be ordered online in English, Croatian, Italian and French language at www.webknjizara.hr.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: 165centimeters; medjugorje
The Virgin Mary is a blue eyed teenage girl that appears taller than she is because she stands on a cloud.

That is according to a new book that has carried out exclusive interviews with the the visionaries of Medjugorje, who first saw her 30 years ago this year when they were schoolchildren....

....In the new book "Medjugorje - 30 years of a phenomenon" authors Marijan Sivric and Ivo Scepanovic have spoken to the schoolchildren - now adults - who said they are surprised that people so often ask "what does she look like"....the Lady is dressed in a grey gown and a white veil covering her black hair, adding: "She has a crown of golden stars, blue eyes, rosy cheeks, and she floats on a silver cloud. She never stands on the ground." The visionaries counted 12 stars above her head, and said she looked to be around 18 years old - but not more than 20.

1 posted on 01/09/2011 9:07:24 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Tall woman for her time. That was the average height for males.


2 posted on 01/09/2011 9:16:23 AM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: Alex Murphy

I would have thought she’d have brown eyes and olive skin, being a Jewish girl from the Middle East.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 9:17:45 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: Alex Murphy

Maybe. Who knows.

We have posters on FR who claim to speak for God.

Other posters who have created their own pantheon of demon-aliens based on two words in Apocalypse.

Others post their dreams as visions despite Proverbs warning on dreams.

As I said, who knows for sure.

BTW, private revelation is just that, private revelation. No one is bound to it or has to believe it.


4 posted on 01/09/2011 9:19:17 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Alex Murphy
The Song of Bernadette is a great movie, and the visions at Lourdes were approved by the Church. Not so at Medjugorje ... so it doesn't matter at this time what she looked like or how tall she was through the eyes of the "supposed" visionaries in Yugoslavia, etc.
5 posted on 01/09/2011 9:20:22 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Alex Murphy

bookmark


6 posted on 01/09/2011 9:21:37 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Blue eyed...just like all the Jewish girls.


7 posted on 01/09/2011 9:32:41 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; editor-surveyor; Dr. Eckleburg; ...

Question..Question.. ( hand waving to the teacher..)

If Mary was “assumed “ into heaven, wouldn’t her body look like it did when she was assumed??? Not a teen age girl???


8 posted on 01/09/2011 9:35:59 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: Alex Murphy
?

9 posted on 01/09/2011 9:35:59 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: RnMomof7

silly... going thru the tunnel stretched her, turned her brown eyes blue too


10 posted on 01/09/2011 9:42:18 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Alex Murphy
Virgin Mary is 165 centimetres tall

That's Madonna, not *the* Madonna.

A case of mistaken identity.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

11 posted on 01/09/2011 9:47:15 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: Alex Murphy

bookmark bump!


12 posted on 01/09/2011 10:16:48 AM PST by nralife
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To: The Comedian
What year is that from? Recent pics of Madonna L. Ciccone show her as a bit stringy. Looking her age, in other words.


13 posted on 01/09/2011 10:37:05 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hmmm, Pope Benedict blessed a statue?

Your search for On June 4, 2008, Pope Benedict XVI blessing a statue of Our Lady of Meugorje in Saint Peter’s Square, Vatican City did not match with any Web results.

Please give source. Thanks


14 posted on 01/09/2011 10:40:15 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore
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To: Lee N. Field
Good heavens, has she be using Michelle's Manly Arms Workout routine?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

15 posted on 01/09/2011 10:52:13 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: OpusatFR
"We have posters on FR who claim to speak for God."

Heck, we have posters on FR who act like they are God.

16 posted on 01/09/2011 10:53:30 AM PST by PatHimself
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To: PatHimself; Cronos; Natural Law; Mad Dawg; Judith Anne

Ping to post #16

ROTFL!

With all he vitriol and tragedy of the past 24 hours, that is a most welcome funny!


17 posted on 01/09/2011 11:00:23 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: ottbmare

I would have thought so too. Where do they the blue eyes from?


18 posted on 01/09/2011 11:57:47 AM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy
silly... going thru the tunnel stretched her, turned her brown eyes blue too

Sounds like a song coming on....

19 posted on 01/09/2011 12:30:02 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: PatHimself
We have posters on FR who claim to speak for God."

The pope posts here ????

20 posted on 01/09/2011 1:15:30 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7
We have posters on FR who claim to speak for God."

The pope posts here ????

Nope, just run of the mill neo-Montanists. The claim is the same, though: continuing, binding and authoritative, extra-biblical revelation in the post-apostolic era.

21 posted on 01/09/2011 2:05:32 PM PST by Lee N. Field (An armed society is a polite society. So keep your soi-disant "prophets" off my lawn.)
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To: PatHimself

Funny.


22 posted on 01/09/2011 3:00:49 PM PST by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: RnMomof7

Now now.

We can’t go expecting

The Vatican Alice In Wonderland’s School of Theology and Reality Mangling’s

off the wall superstitions and fantasies to be logical, rational!


23 posted on 01/09/2011 3:30:11 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ottbmare

That was my though also..Not too many blue eyed people at that time in the Jewish community...such little things can cause one to think its a false thing that the people saw..Don’t believe in their visions anyway..


24 posted on 01/09/2011 4:27:44 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Alex Murphy

Since according to Roman Catholic dogma the Virgin Mary died as an aged mature woman, and was later resurrected and assumed into Heaven, why would she now appear as an 18 year old?


25 posted on 01/09/2011 5:08:01 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: Alex Murphy

Oh, BROTHER........

Is there no end to the fantasies surrounding her?

2 Corinthians 11:13-15

13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.


26 posted on 01/09/2011 5:18:19 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

Please don’t attribute this to “Vatican Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling.” That is unjust. The Roman Catholic Church does not accept the Mejugorje visions as authentic at all, and discourages believers from paying attention to them.


27 posted on 01/09/2011 7:29:43 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: ottbmare

That’s encouraging.

Thanks for letting me know.

I know y’all have a fairly rigorous and lengthy process for such things.

And, in the natural scheme of things, it IS quite impressive.

I just think that 12-112 flawed theological elites and group-think taking a long time to vet something can still make some horrendous errors.

Witness, Fatima, imho.


28 posted on 01/09/2011 7:46:38 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RnMomof7
If Mary was “assumed “ into heaven, wouldn’t her body look like it did when she was assumed??? Not a teen age girl???

Oh SNAP!!!

29 posted on 01/10/2011 7:30:22 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: jmacusa; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; HarleyD
I would have thought so too. Where do they the blue eyes from?

Some inebriated Renaissance artist remembering the last girl he slept with.

30 posted on 01/10/2011 11:22:32 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: 1000 silverlings
turned her brown eyes blue too

lol. She may be made of crystal but she's no Gayle.

31 posted on 01/10/2011 11:39:53 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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To: topcat54
Some inebriated Renaissance artist remembering the last girl he slept with.

Related threads:
A brief history of Baroque [the art of the Counter-Reformation]
Vatican plea to uncover Virgin Mary and show her breast-feeding baby Jesus

32 posted on 01/10/2011 12:14:26 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; editor-surveyor; ...
If Mary was “assumed “ into heaven, wouldn’t her body look like it did when she was assumed??? Not a teen age girl???

Looks like the Vatican website will have to change all its references from BEV Mary to BETV (Blessed Ever Teener Virgin) Mary.

33 posted on 01/11/2011 12:54:51 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: Forest Keeper

LOL


34 posted on 01/11/2011 1:42:30 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alex Murphy
My two favorite depictions of the Virgin Mary are:

Simone Martini's Annunciation Altar Piece...

...and D.G. Rossetti's Ecce Ancilla Domini:


35 posted on 01/11/2011 1:48:56 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: AnalogReigns; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
why would she now appear as an 18 year old?

I suppose she was incorruptible from the point she bore Jesus.

36 posted on 01/11/2011 4:16:42 PM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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