Israel: The Super-Sign of the End Times (Part 1) (Dispensational Caucus)

BibleProphecyBlog.com ^ | 2/1/2011 | Todd Baker

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Lera]

Isaiah 19 is happening now.

---

I believe Isiah 18 is also happening now.

Isaiah 18 and the Future of America
http://www.isaiah18.com/

[Lera]

The veil is already being lifted .
The Messianic Faith is growing in Israel.

[John Leland 1789]

Right. That should have been ROMANS 11:28.

I am in the midst of recording some audio institute lessons on eschatology, and I had “Revelation” stuck in my old brain.

[holly go-rightly]

thank you for the ping.

[dartuser]

Ultimately, during the millenial kingdom, peace will finally come to Israel and its Arab neighbors, but it will come in one of two ways ... by destruction of those Arab states or by their conversion.

How gracious is the living God Almighty? ... that He will grant repentance even to Egypt ...

[metmom]

I heard an end times preacher once say that that is because when God begins to do His mighty work in Israel, Egypt will recognize that they’ve been down that road before and repent this time.

If anything shows the patience of God and His desire to see someone come to Him.

I’m becoming convinced that God will never let a person be condemned who might come to Him eventually. IOW, that those who die without Him would never have accepted Him.

In this case, while Israel obliterated many nations around them, Egypt is still here and we see why now. They will eventually turn to Him.

[Quix]

CERTAINLY.

[dartuser]

I think most dispensationalists would argue that the return of the Jews from the Babylonian exile did not (nor has it yet) fulfilled the OT prophecies of national resortation. They did not possess all the land in the land promise (indeed, they NEVER have ... leading to the conclusion that the fulfillment is still future), so the destruction in AD 70 was not germaine to any fulfillment. Also, the return from exile back then did not restore the kingdom; they were under rule from other kingdoms at the time; Greece, Roman.

The regathering we witnessed in 1948/1967 is STILL only a return from exile. There is no restoration of a kingdom as of yet. Remember, THAT kindgom will rule the entire world ... and for that to happen in this day and age, it will take the rulership of Jesus Christ to accomplish that; thus those events are related to His second coming. Zech 12-14 is the most vivid depiction of Israels restoration, an event that dispensationalists see happening AT the second coming.

[dartuser]

Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum (whom I believe is a Jewish convert, might be wrong about that) wrote a nice article on the OT basis for premillenialism.

It is here ...

http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/premillennialism-in-old-testament

At the end of the article, he does a pretty good job of explaining what the nations will look like during the MK.

[metmom]

Thanks. I’ll check that out.