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Socialization of Home School Children: A Communication Approach
Personal web site ^ | April 20, 2011 | Tom Smedley

Posted on 04/20/2011 1:19:13 PM PDT by RJR_fan

In 1992, I earned my "15 minutes of fame" with an MS thesis about "Social Maturity of Home School Children." I've decided to make it more widely available, starting with this extract (CLICK HERE to open the .pdf document).

FReepers, this is my gift to you. I formatted it into a dozen or so attractive pages to read on screen, or to print out and give to worried friends and family.

I found it interesting to cull trenchant observations on the state of public education from a variety of sources: Ayn Rand, the atheist capitalist. Ivan Illych, the Marxist Jesuit. R. J. Rushdoony, the ArmEnian Calvinist. Decades before John Taylor Gatto burst onto the scene, these antagonistic pundits agreed on one thing: public education is bad for children and other living things.


TOPICS: Activism; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: education; frhf; homeschool; homeschooling; socialization
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1 posted on 04/20/2011 1:19:17 PM PDT by RJR_fan
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To: DManA; M. Espinola; topcat54; ShadowAce; jy8z; The Theophilus; Dr. Eckleburg; Jim 0216; metmom
ping.

Hey, memom! If you could forward this to the home school ping list, I'd appreciate it!

2 posted on 04/20/2011 1:23:09 PM PDT by RJR_fan ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: RJR_fan

I love turning the question around when questioned about home schooling and socialization. People express concern that the kids will lack social skills.

Taking a look at their kids, my question is, So, you want my kids to be rebellious, sloppy, trampy, phone-texting, illiterate, without self-control, immoral, amoral, druggy, ritalin-chewing, selfish, peer-compliant, lazy, silly, trivial, churlish, and devoid of a meaningful future like your kid?


3 posted on 04/20/2011 1:26:58 PM PDT by lurk
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To: RJR_fan

I had my doubts about the socialization aspect until I met the home schooled son of a friend. The brightest, friendliest, most empathetic, sociable child I’ve ever met. A joy to be around.


4 posted on 04/20/2011 1:28:02 PM PDT by balch3
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To: RJR_fan
The money quote for me:

The process of moving the public school student from grade to grade, classroom to classroom, and school to school further disrupts the continuity of the maturing process, and the development of communication skills. Very few adults still have best friendships tracing back to first grade. Most adults still have continuing relationships with their families. Long term relationships allow the best opportunity for the leisurely flowering of empathy and understanding, the cultivation of deep rather than superficial connections.

In the public school system, children are socialized horizontally, and temporarily, into conformity to their immediate peers.

Home educators seek to socialize their children vertically, towards responsibility, service, and adulthood, with an eye on eternity.

Excellent. Thanks for sharing this.
5 posted on 04/20/2011 1:28:10 PM PDT by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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To: lurk
Upon reading the title of this thread I immediately thought of the title of a companion piece.

Socialization of Public School Children: A Law of the Jungle Approach

6 posted on 04/20/2011 1:31:46 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: RJR_fan
Met a 7 year old home schooled child the other day supposedly doing 6th grade math.

His dad said...he knows what pi is....and the kid spit off 3.14159.

But what is pi I asked the kid. He said nothing and left the room.

So wow...he memorized 6 numbers...the equivalent of a word with 6 letters. I'm sure the father is not happy with me but I hope he sees the problem.

7 posted on 04/20/2011 2:00:02 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: balch3

That reminds me of a statement a lady made to me. She said her neighbors homeschool and those poor children are so socially stunted that they talk to her. LOL! She didn’t think it normal for children to talk to adults.


8 posted on 04/20/2011 2:12:27 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: lurk

Very good!
Socialization in government schools truthfully should be called peer-pressure. Don’t want it and don’t need it.
The sooner Americans remove their children from that rat’s nest and propaganda factory, the sooner will see improvements in our children as a whole.


9 posted on 04/20/2011 2:13:14 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I agree with your assessment, but I doubt a 7 year old public or private schooled kid would know, either.

So the only thing bad about your anecdote was, a boastful dad.


10 posted on 04/20/2011 2:32:10 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: RJR_fan

In the year 1988, my wife said she’d done some reading on home schooling, and that she wanted to home school our kids. I told her I thought that was the dumbest thing I’d ever heard, but I said on one condition... that if it looked like we were screwing up our kids education, we’d put them in a “real school” environment. This spring, we are graduating our two youngest from college... One in dance and the other in Bible, whew! Both are among the most thoughtful and friendliest you’ll see on any campus, of course my wife gets all the credit. If you can, homeschool... best life you can give a kid.


11 posted on 04/20/2011 2:43:54 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Sacajaweau

“But what is pi I asked the kid. He said nothing and left the room.”

Ask my 7 year old, home schooled daughter. Had you asked her, you wouldn’t have had such a snarky comment to post here.


12 posted on 04/20/2011 2:56:13 PM PDT by RBranha (Captialism is the natural outgrowth of human freedom.)
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To: dps.inspect

Employers should actively seek out homeschooled children when hiring...


13 posted on 04/20/2011 3:03:09 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: lurk
Bingo. Do you want you kindergartners socializing with a bunch of 5 yo out of control kids or people of a variety of ages and experiences.
14 posted on 04/20/2011 5:10:02 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Sacajaweau

So what is it? You don’t support home schooling do you?
Ask a 7 yo from a public school and they’d probably tell you apple.


15 posted on 04/20/2011 5:12:08 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: RJR_fan; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

Thank you!!!!!

That's certainly worth a ping.

16 posted on 04/20/2011 5:54:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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In the home school family, on the other hand, people of various ages and generations mix easily together in a variety that more accurately mirrors the outside society.

There is an emphasis on service and responsibility that turns differences into opportunities for compassion.

This is so important.

17 posted on 04/20/2011 6:18:42 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Sacajaweau

>>So wow...he memorized 6 numbers...the equivalent of a word with 6 letters. I’m sure the father is not happy with me but I hope he sees the problem. <<

Wow, you showed up a 7 year old. Bet you’re proud.

Now, let’s get realistic on this. I homeschool my kids and I’m a crossing guard for the local elementary school. Both my kids are on par with the the “Gifted and Talented” of that school, because they have been tested.

Ya know what they don’t know that the other girls do? Trees are good, cars are bad. If you don’t recycle, you are evil. Obama is wonderful. The white man should be strung up for all the bad things he did to everyone else. Christ should not be mentioned and it’s great to give up meat on Monday to save the planet but not on Friday for Lent.

Keep it. I’ll educate my own kids.


18 posted on 04/20/2011 6:25:38 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: netmilsmom
Christ should not be mentioned and it’s great to give up meat on Monday to save the planet but not on Friday for Lent.

The eco nuts have it so backwards.

They don't eat the cows that produce the greenhouse gases, and eat the plants which correct global warming.

And you expect anything else from the public school?

19 posted on 04/20/2011 6:29:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Oh, and perhaps you should look up 6th grade math.
Pi is TAUGHT in 6th grade, the kid may not have gotten to it yet.

I hope you understand now.


20 posted on 04/20/2011 6:30:02 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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