Posted on 10/12/2011 4:54:27 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.(Psalm 2:1-3)
The Psalmist looks ahead to a tumultuous time when “Nations are in an uproar and the people imagine a vain thing”. Indeed we are living in a time when the nations are in turmoil, raging like the sea, even as Jesus warned us that they would in the last days,
And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring, Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.(Luke 21:25-27)
The sinful restlessness of the nations of the world is likened to the sea. This puts an eschatological light on the stories of Jesus calming the sea and walking on the waters!The Psalmist in another place proclaims, “The floods have lifted up their voice, O Lord, but the voice of the Lord is more than the sound of many waters…”(see Psalm 93).
But another aspect of the end times is brought out in the second Psalm, for the people of the nations are bewitched by a “vain Imagination”. Just what is this seducing and entrapping “vain imagination” ? The out working of the vain imagination is pervasive today, it’s manifestations are many, but there is one vain imagination that the people have been trapped into believing. I believe it is referenced in verse 2- 3 of our Psalm.
The Kings of the earth and their Rulers take counsel together against the Lord and His Christ saying, Let us break their bands asunder and cast away their cords far from us.
The vain Imagination is shared particularly by the “Kings of the earth and their rulers”, who have all taken their counsel together, against “the Lord and His Christ”. Where did this counsel take place? The counsel against the Lord and His Christ takes place constantly at the level of our higher educational institutions, Harvard, Yale, Oxford, Princetown and the rest of the topmost Universities of the world, almost without exception.
All for the most part are atheistic in their outlook, and work to strip their students of any vestiges of true christian faith.Their ambivalence to Christianity ranges from mild to vehement. The same atheistic, multicultural, psychological, leftist economical, anti christian, anti western, perspective is inculcated in their students regardless of where they are located. The Universities are almost generic in their atheistic worldview.
Thus the Kings of the earth and their rulers, who include not merely the political, but almost all of the truly influential, the opinion shapers, educational, legal and medical leaders, the philosophers, thinkers, and religious heads, have been steeped in an anti-christian outlook.
The Vain Imagination is that they can strip the world of Christ, and the religion of Christ, then go onto build a bold new world without God. A civil society, even more “compassionate” than the ones that emerged out of a christian consensus will supposedly replace the outdated former Judeo Christian world which brought such benefit to so many.
In spite of evidence to the contrary, that the christian model of marriage is the greatest guarantor of societal stability, The “Kings and Rulers” have systematically destroyed marriage in our society, by the passage of “no fault divorce laws”, the promotion of pornography, the homo-sexualization of society, and the legal destruction of the traditional safe guards of the family.
Of course the mainstream church has gleefully led the way, as though sexual perversion was some kind of “civil right” that they are championing.
The idea that guides much of what passes for, international studies, immigration policy and even the foreign policy of the US and other western nations is another ‘vain imagination’, called “multiculturalism” which teaches us to naively assume that all cultures were created equal. There are many people in education, law and high political positions who actually believe this!
That is why Islam is studiously avoided as being the cause of so many billions of dollars of new security measures around the world. It isn’t the Amish or Methodists that we think of when we hear as yet another atrocity in the name of religion. There have been more than 15,000 major acts of terrorism in the world since 9-11, and yet none of our leaders would even propose lessening the waves of Muslim integration into the west.
In a Government appointed 150 page study of the Fort Hood Massacre, the word "Muslim" or "Islam" evidently wasn't mentioned.
Evidently , “the people Imagine a vain thing”, and will pay any price in blood and treasure to maintain these delusions.
Really multiculturalism is a way to deny and cancel out the incredible disparity in civilisations between the Christian West and the rest of the world. Christianity has so benefitted and elevated those civilisations which have embraced it at any time, that even after leaving it for the most part, the traces of christianity cause the West to excel to an embarrassing degree.
This is why assimilable immigration has been foisted to a suicidal degree on the western world. Our leaders are the chief proponents of the vain imagination of multiculturalism. They would dismantle anything distinctly christian that remains in German,Dutch, French, British and American culture, and create a ‘brave new godless world”. The Psalm tells us that they do this with their eyes wide open, and in the face of God.
The final expression of the Vain Imagination of the whole world will be the worship of the Anti-Christ, “Who is Like the Beast? Who is able to make war with Him?” .
They want to believe that man can do it better, that Christianity is outdated, and that we don’t have to listen or obey God. They don’t want to consider themselves as sinners , in need of redemption, its too humbling! Judgment before a Holy God scares them, the churches even deny it now, so why should anyone believe it? They don’t want to believe that Islam is a murderous cult that is sworn to the annihilation of civilisation! So they cling to the vain imagination, they end up hating the truth and being damned…
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thess 2:7-12)
Imagining a vain thing: “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”
Jesus nowhere said that any signs would presage the Last Days. There will be wars and rumors of wars BUT THE END IS NOT YET. You cannot correctly interpret that to mean and the End is right around the corner. He said men cannot know when the Last Day is upon us. He said that all should live as if the End is upon us. For each human being these are the last days because each of us is near his bodily death. It has always been the Last Days. Jesus said we should live in understanding of that fact.
I never thought I would see these days - but now that we are where we are, I've found myself often praying with a big smile on my face, Halleluiah, Lord, come quickly!
(Yeah, I know things get very bad, but I know in Whom I believe.)
Have you searched how many times that word 'mystery' is used in the Bible, and then the revealing of 'who', 'what', 'where', 'why', and even 'when' the answer to the mystery is given. Paul answers the mystery and names the 'anti-Christ' or more properly called the 'instead of Jesus', who gets tossed down here on earth. Check out the 6th trump, 6th seal, and 6th vial.
I agree, Christianity outdated itself centuries ago when it cast off the rich & edifying instructions of YHVH which is called His Torah.
1 Thessalonians 5:1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.
Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.
YHVH clearly states that Yah'shua's coming will only be as a thief in the night to those who are not obedient thus they will not know because they neithr follow HIS Sabbaths & Appointed Times.
Genesis 1:14 God said, "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to divide the day from the night; let them be for signs, seasons, days and years.
Modern Greek Christianity teaches that the word "season" refers to winter, spring, summer & fall but in YHVH's kingdom where pure Hebrew is the spoken word, "season" does not refer to times of year as we are taught according to the Greek heritage that infiltrated & corrrupted YHVH's Word.
Gen 1:14 And GodH430 said,H559 Let there beH1961 lightsH3974 in the firmamentH7549 of the heavenH8064 to divideH914 H996 the dayH3117 fromH996 the night;H3915 and let them beH1961 for signs,H226 and for seasons,H4150 and for days,H3117 and years
H8141 Strong's H4150
mo-ade', mo-ade', mo-aw-daw'
From H3259; properly an appointment, that is, a fixed time or season; specifically a festival; conventionally a year; by implication, an assembly (as convened for a definite purpose); technically the congregation; by extension, the place of meeting; also a signal (as appointed beforehand): - appointed (sign, time), (place of, solemn) assembly, congregation, (set, solemn) feast, (appointed, due) season, solemn (-ity), synagogue, (set) time (appointed).
This is why, if one wants to claim to have been given the gift of prophesy as to write books about it, one must actually study it from YHVH's Hebrew perspective rather than in a Greek mindset. For anyone that studies & follows YHVH as He & Yah'shua commanded, this time will not come as a thief in the night.
Rev 16:15 “Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.” [NKJV]
Watching & keeping ones garments clean is a reference to the wedding parables about preparedness. Just as every wedding has a rehearsal, YHVH had already set Appointed times in order that the bride of His Son Yah'shua be prepared, ready & dressed properly.
Matthew 22:11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. 12 So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ [NKJV]
Matthew 25:6 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’ 7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. 11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ 12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming [NKJV]
So when are we to be watching?
Psalm 98:6 With trumpets and the sound of a horn; Shout joyfully before the LORD, the King. [NKJV]
Revelation 8:2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets...6 So the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. [NKJV]
And what moade (season) of YHVH are we currently in?
Leviticus 23:23 [The Feast of Trumpets] Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 24 “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, a holy convocation. (In Context Lev 23-44) [NKJV]
YHVH's Holy Convocation of Trumpets is the only Holy day that falls on a new moon. Thus the it is a 2 day Holy Convocation because it is the only Appointed time that can not be pinned down to a specific day or hour. However, the moade (season) is known and that is why Paul wrote "But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief" and why Yah'shua said "“Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour".
Temple service study also tells us that it is during these moade that all Kings are coronated & High Priests are ordained. The person may become King or High Priest at anytime during the year prior, but He was never officially crowned or ordained until this time. The entire moade of Lev 23-44 are centered around atonement/judgement, then coronation & finally a joyous celebration. It was also the moade in which the census was taken. OH MY...was not our Messiah born during the time when Joseph & Mary were in Bethlehem because of a yearly census? That His 1st coming was a prophesy as to the time of His 2nd coming?
My prayer is that not one of my brethren, no matter their denomination, find that this great & awesome day has come upon them as a thief in the night.
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.(Psalm 2:1-3)
“The Psalmist looks ahead to a tumultuous time when “Nations are in an uproar and the people imagine a vain thing”. Indeed we are living in a time when the nations are in turmoil, raging like the sea, even as Jesus warned us that they would in the last days.”
We are indeed living in a time when the nations are in turmoil ... no argument. However, this is not the first time in history that it has been so. And it is entirely possible that it won’t be the last.
However, is this really what the psalm is talking about? It does, after all, have a context that is to be taken into account, lest we be guilty, as some of the cults, of tearing out of context what God has put together. It does not even matter that the Bible may indeed teach such a thing. The question is, does it teach such a thing here? Not everything in the Bible that can with a little imagination be seen as having to do with the so-called “end times” actually does speak about them.
Imagining a vain thing: “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”
This may be what one of a Greek mindset thinks of, however, YHVH was not talking about personal vanity. He was talking about taking His name & His commandments and making them worthless, making them to mean nothing.
Psa 2:1 WhyH4100 do the heathenH1471 rage,H7283 and the peopleH3816 imagineH1897 a vain thing?H7385
Psa 2:2 The kingsH4428 of the earthH776 set themselves,H3320 and the rulersH7336 take counselH3245 together,H3162 againstH5921 the LORD,H3068 and againstH5921 his anointed,H4899 saying,
Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder,H5423 (H853) H4147 and cast awayH7993 their cordsH5688 fromH4480 us.
Strong's H7385
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From H7324; emptiness; figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain: - empty, to no purpose
Thus, when YHVH says they have taken counsel against He & His anointed, He is telling us that these heathen rulers held His Torah as worthless, thus replacing His Laws with their own. Hence the reference to cords as in cords that bind a people together under the bondage of heathen rulers.
Why this continuous rant against multiculturalism? What is wrong with having English, German, Frence, Italian, Polish, Spanish even Filipine cultures mixing here? Be specific -- Moslem cultures in particular are not wanted.
I understand your point. I think that when Obama said, “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for,” he was really trying to say, without appearing completely outrageous, “I am the one you’ve been waiting for.”
In other words, isn’t he trying to take the place of one who was sent by some higher power, ie, a messiah? And yet, he does not appear to believe in the God of the Bible, judging by his words, actions, and associations.
I think he believes he has all the answers, and that he can run things properly if given enough power, and he doesn’t need God to help him. In fact, those who “cling to God” are blocking him from achieving his goals. Is he not striving against God, with the idea that he can supplant God and His annointed? I believe, when he says, “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for,” that that is exactly what he envisions himself doing.
I agree with this in the fact that politically, Obama is nothing more than a narcissistic Muslim Marxist. So way did YHVH allow this narcissist access to the White House?
Since the fall of Adam & Eve, YHVH has been trying to restore His good name. It was Adam & Eve that decided they could override YHVH and eat from whatever tree they wanted. And ever since then, man has been ruled by man rather than living in liberty with YHVH.
In YHVH’s eyes, nothing matters except restoring HIS good name & because man made religious doctrine continues to keep His flock from returning home to Him, life in the flesh on earth is only going to continue to decline.
We are not in control and Obama’s rise to the presidency is proof positive that YHVH is very angry with HIS disobedient children. YHVH has declared that it is time to implement extreme tough love in order to expose the tares that are among HIS wheat.
Because disobedient lack of assimilation thousands of years ago is what cased the problem in the 1st place.
Cronos, Multicuturalism is the philosophy that says all Cultures are equal. I have no problem whatsoever with English,German,Italian or Phillipine culture mixing here. I do have a problem with a Doctrine which informs our leaders that leads them to apologize for the alleged sins, and which floods the West with cultures hostile to our own, and which calls us racist for objecting to it. I am not “ranting” I am making a valid point.
which informs our leaders that leads them to apologize for the alleged sins, and which floods the West with cultures hostile to our own, and which calls us racist for objecting to it. -- I agree with the first part about "apologizing for alleged sins", the past is dead. The second "flooding with cultures hostile to our own" is specifically about cultures that do not play well with others, namely Islam.
Other cultures like say Yemeni Jews or Christian Iraqi or Christian/Hindu/Sikh Indian etc. have no such aims.
I never said they did.
No, you didn’t. I meant this as against all those who say “multiculturalism is bad” — going back to my first remark I see that I inadvertently wrote it to say as if it was directly and solely you. I apologize for that.
Thanks Cronos- I am sorry for the belated reply-I have been out of country- Pas Bill
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