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Mormonism and the presidency
One News Now ^ | 10-12-2011 | Sandy Rios

Posted on 10/12/2011 5:06:14 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Does Mitt Romney, an elder and former missionary of the Mormon Church, believe he will one day be a god ... equal to Jesus ... ruling his own planet? Does he agree with Mormon teaching that Jesus and Satan are brothers? That America is the Promised Land where Jesus will return one day to rule from the Garden of Eden, which Mormons believe to be Jackson County, Missouri? And do American voters have the right to know this?

When Barack Obama was running for president, he assured us he was a Christian. Pastor Rick Warren brought Candidate Obama to his mega-church and questioned him before a national audience. Obama's answers seemed to satisfy and with Warren's blessing, he proceeded to campaign. Never mind he sat for 20 years under a pastor who fumed Christian apostasy. Dr. Jeremiah Wright preached anti-Semitism, embraced homosexuality and abortion, and practiced open promiscuity. Obama and his family were mentored by Pastor Wright, but Obama said he was a Christian and that, in the minds of those who wanted to support him, made it so.

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TOPICS: Current Events; History; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: brighamyoung; josephsmith; lds; mittromney; mormon; mormonism; mormons; politics; polygamy; polygyny; presidency; religion; righttoknow; rios; romney; sandyrios; young
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To: teppe; ReformationFan
ReformationFan .... I’m LDS .... and I think you are full of Hog Wash! Show me one scripture in the Bible, Book of Mormon, D&C, or PofGP that enshrines you Rabid Anti-LDS Phobia! You and your Ilk show yourself to be of similar mind as the Pharisees that Our Lord continually identified as hypocrites. Ever seeking to distort, contort, and deceive to satisfy your arrogance.

It's been a long time, but Irving's Law has again been invoked. ReformationFan wins the round by default.

Irving's Law, First Clause: once a comparison is made between the Pharisees and someone's theology, the discussion is immediately finished - and whoever makes the comparison automatically "loses" whatever debate was in progress, forfeiting all points previously scored.

21 posted on 10/12/2011 7:58:55 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: Tennessee Nana
When Jesus said back then “IT IS FINISHED” it was...

On the Cross He did all the work that was ever going to be necessary not only “to erase your sins” but also to forgive you those sins...

Amen!

22 posted on 10/12/2011 8:42:26 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: arthurus

LOL, that maybe a slight exaggeration, if I’m reading you correctly.


23 posted on 10/13/2011 4:01:18 AM PDT by wita
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why does it matter?

Thanks for posting my exact feeling. Who cares? He is as able a business leader as any in the field. That's what we need. Some of he smartest people in the country and possibly in the world post on this forum, but sometimes the Oprah chattiness of some of the posts makes me wonder.

24 posted on 10/13/2011 4:15:08 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: wita

No exaggeration. Both are statists. Both are AGWists. Both are Amnestyites. Both crave socialized medicine.Both are effectively socialists. Obama would face opposition from a Republican Congress and probably wouldn’t even get his USSC nominees passed. Romney will push the same sorts of measures as Obama would and, as a nominal Republican, will get sufficient cooperation by the non T-Party Republicans in congress to GET his bills passed and leftist pro choice (non-partisan will be the description)Court nominees passed. Romney has also expressed a willingness to “work with the Democrats.” He said it when it could only hurt him with the Republican voters in the primaries thus he was signalling the Official Democrats where his heart really lies. Romney’s Republican congress will flip in two years so that he has basically only Democrats to “work with” and Romney will be replaced in 4 years by a more competent and more determined Marxist than the kenyan. Obama will lose the Senate in two years and find a new bottom for the Democrats before the 2016 election at which the conservatives get another chance. In the matchup Romney would NOT be the lesser of two evils and the two evils will not be equal.


25 posted on 10/13/2011 5:23:45 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: arthurus

So now if I’m reading you correctly, you are one who might willingly vote for Mr Obama in 2012, because Mr Romney is exactly the same and the incumbent, in this case, should definitely be the winner?


26 posted on 10/13/2011 5:53:06 AM PDT by wita
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To: arthurus

...and obviously my previous is conjecture, because we don’t have a clue who the nominee is going to be, and it is too soon for me anyway to have a preference. I don’t think any of them other than Newt, or Santorum are appealing, and to voice what many here feel, they are the unelectable. I don’t necessarily believe that, but again it is early yet.


27 posted on 10/13/2011 6:00:00 AM PDT by wita
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To: teppe

Welcome to my world. CTR!


28 posted on 10/13/2011 6:37:22 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: hope; Salvation

“He will not win over the evangelical vote, especially when the rats start digging deep into the Mormon doctrine. “

Exactly what the anti Catholics said during JFK’s run for the presidency: “He will not win over the Protestant vote, especially when the rats start digging deep into the Catholic doctrine.”

JFK lost about a million votes simply because he was Catholic. Some of these rabid anti Mormons also believe that all the Catholics are going to hell.


29 posted on 10/13/2011 6:40:48 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Belteshazzar

“Mitt Romney will never be able to satisfy Christians, and presumably Jews, and perhaps others, until he has come clean on the secret stuff.”

I guess you are talking about what goes on in the LDS Temples. Go to www.lds.org or www.mormon.org .

Please stop making ignorant statements about my Church.

This issue should have been put to rest considering the backlash suffered by Perry’s candidacy but oh no the anti Mormons will not be silenced no matter how foolish they look and how harmful they are to civil discourse and the GOP.

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. My Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who is my Advocate with the Father and the Holy Ghost is my witness.

I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and I am not ashamed of the Gospel. Amen.


30 posted on 10/13/2011 6:46:12 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

how harmful they are to civil discourse and the GOP.
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SD the subject was Mormonism not American government...

The GOP doesnt run on Mormon doctrine...

Civil discourse is not stunted becauser the magic underwear is exposed...

“your” so called “church” will fall for other reasons not just because democracy is discussed...


31 posted on 10/13/2011 12:42:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy; All

Please stop making ignorant statements about my Church.
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Yeah y’all

I stand with SD one this one...

Too much ignorance not enough actual mormon beliefs..

if ya dont know nuffin bout Joey Smith and his homemade religion, Mormonism, dont post until ya ask one of the Flying Inmen about it...

According to SD she is just an adult convert and not a BIC or TBM...


32 posted on 10/13/2011 12:48:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: avital2
“by their works shall ye know them.”

Ummm.... That is not a scripture. The closest thing is this: Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

This is the way the Bible tells you to judge PROPHETS. Do you think we should be judging Romney as a prophet?

33 posted on 10/13/2011 12:55:56 PM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Elsie

Some of these rabid anti Mormons also believe that all the Catholics are going to hell.
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SD ALL of the rabid anti-Christian Mormons also believe that ALL the Catholics are going to Hell...

and ALL the rabid anti-Christian Mormons also believe that ALL the Protestants are going to Hell...

In fact ALL the rabid anti-Christian Mormons believe that ALL the Christians are going to Hell...


34 posted on 10/13/2011 12:56:36 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: avital2

i will judge him by how he treats others.
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There was a time Romney was a racist bigot towards black people...


35 posted on 10/13/2011 12:58:20 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy; teppe

Welcome to my world. CTR!
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SD I dont think TeePee is a big supporter of the fLDS


36 posted on 10/13/2011 1:00:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: wita
I wouldn't vote for the kenyan or for Romney in any circumstance. If either of them is president after 2012 we're cooked.
Mr. Romney would not have the same effect as would the kenyan. Romney would get his Democrat legislation through the Republican congress. The kenyan wouldn't succeed.
Romney would cause the congress to flip to Democrat in 2014. The kenyan would draw a more Republican and more conservative House and Senate in 2014.
A Romney presidency would ensure that an even harder core Marxist Democrat wins in 2016 as a reaction to the failure of the "Republican" presidency. The kenyan for 4 more years would give conservatives one more chance in 2016 though there might not be anything left of the economy or the society to resurrect.
Both men will appoint socialists and statists to the Cabinet and bureaucracy and to the Court, the Kenyan because he is a believing Marxist and Romney because he will be "working with the Democrats" and "reaching out."
I do expect the kenyan to do more damage with EOs than Romney would but perhaps the Republican Congress would finally stand up and counter those EOs.

I will vote for any conservative who turns out to be the Republican nominee. I would even vote for Gingrich. I won't vote for Romney or for any other Democrat, whatever he calls himself.

37 posted on 10/13/2011 1:25:40 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Tennessee Nana

pls give me a link to that info.


38 posted on 10/13/2011 3:56:48 PM PDT by avital2
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To: avital2

Williard Mitt Romney was in his 30s when the Mormons changed their doctrines against blacks in 1978

Until that year as a BIC Born in Covenant Mormon from a “royal” Mormon family of genberations of polygamists, Romney had been taught to hate black people and believe them to be inferior and the “seed of Cain” and agreed that they should not be members of the Mormon religion and the men must not be “priests” like he was...

As a high priest of the Mormon religion, Romney has not to date even denounced the racist bigotted past of himself his family or his religion...

BTW Jimmy Carter leaned on the Mormons and was in many ways responsible for the Mormons changing that doctrine and in 1980 the Mormons punished their long time Democrat friends and Jimmy by holding their noses and voting for the one they hated more, Ronald Reagan...


39 posted on 10/13/2011 5:23:59 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am not ashamed of the Gospel.

Shouting from the rooftops again, are you?

40 posted on 10/13/2011 6:19:14 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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