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Are dinosaurs fossils really that old? [vanity]

Posted on 10/28/2011 6:39:41 AM PDT by Ancient Drive

I read that carbon dating method is only accurate for up to 30,000 yrs. So how are scientists coming up with millions yrs. old fossils? For all we know dinosaurs died off not millions but 100's of thousands of yrs ago.


TOPICS: Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: carbondating; creationism; dinosaurs; flintstones; givemeabreak; yabbadabbadoo; yec
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To: montyspython
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181 posted on 10/28/2011 12:31:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Bit of a stretch to say the dinosaurs were around in Jesus day...

But see Job 40 beginning in v 15.

“Look at the behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox. 16 What strength he has in his loins, what power in the muscles of his belly! 17 His tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are close-knit. 18 His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron.


182 posted on 10/28/2011 12:33:18 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels

I’m not skeptical, I just do not believe that Jesus was anything more than a very gifted and good man. Why do you want to convince me of something? What do you want to convince me of?

It’s great that you have such a strong faith. I do too, it’s just different than yours. I certainly wouldn’t want to try and change your faith, as I believe our faith is provided to us by God, not by a book or a man.


183 posted on 10/28/2011 12:34:38 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Craftmore
Remains found in caves which have active speleothem formation have been replaced, as well, and are likely to be younger than 6000 years. In other instances, bodies have been mummified but not fossilized by dry conditions. It all depends on the circumstances.

There are several different ways to 'date' a rock layer, the most common is relative age the attribution of a rock layer to a time period based on its placement relative to the rocks around it. The next, dealing with fossil content is a biostratigraphic age, with certain assemblages of remains being ascribed to a certain time period, and then the numbers ("absolute age") come from interpretation of isotopic dating of minerals in igneous and or metamorphic rocks (in the latter case, identifying their last period of high temperature/pressure deformation) which are sandwiched in, buried under, intruded into, or provide the materials for sedimentary rock in which fossils are found. Inferences are made about the age of the sediments according to their stratigraphic relationships to the rocks for which an absolute age has been acceptably established.

The numbers can be suspect for sediments, as a given rock formation is generally assumed to have the same age over its lateral extent when the environment in which it formed may have shifted geographically over time, they are usually given as a range of dates. There are few markers which are global in extent (one such is the K-T Boundary--the sediment from the impact event which has been credited by some with the demise of the dinosaurs), so there are places where the record doesn't completely flange up, or absolute ages may be in dispute, even within the framework of isotopic dating.

Regardless of the numbers which have been attached, this makes a good working model to designate relative ages of strata and sort things out.

Whether the numbers are absolutely correct depends on measurement, sampling, and on the constancy of physical constants.

If the universe is 'billions' of years old, we don't have enough data on physical constants to determine how constant they really are over time.

Anyway, in our efforts to understand that which surrounds us, we do come up with working models, with apparent rules, which are subject to constant revision because no matter how much we know, for every answer, we commonly end up with more questions.

The fundamental assumption in this modeling is that the same forces which are working now work in the the same way now as they did then, and, of course that they worked at all.

Again, we assume this to be the case, because it makes for a nice, tidy working model.

Yet at the same time, if we are ever to travel among the stars, we will have to find ways to exceed the parameters we have set in our interpretation of nature, and we are actively seeking ways to do so, looking for the faster than light particle, the wormhole to transit normal space, and ways to harness or negate the effects of gravity, for a few.

So despite placing certain rules on the physical universe, we seek to transcend those rules ourselves. So I don't have any trouble with an all-knowing and all-powerful God who can transcend the rules we have imposed through observation of how things seem to work at the moment--or even over the past few hundreds of years.

For now we see as through a glass, darkly...

184 posted on 10/28/2011 12:41:48 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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185 posted on 10/28/2011 12:42:13 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: BrandtMichaels

Are you sure that wasn’t written by a Palinbot???LOL


186 posted on 10/28/2011 12:43:34 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: BrandtMichaels; All
Bit of a stretch to say the dinosaurs were around in Jesus day...

Not to the people at the Creation Museum in Kentucky and to this guy.

Cleaning the T. Rex cage must have been interesting: Article and Thread

187 posted on 10/28/2011 5:03:32 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: KevinDavis
To some people The Flinstones was a documentary..

It wasn't?

188 posted on 10/28/2011 5:22:11 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Moose Alert!!!! Get some sleeves!)
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To: EveningStar; All

Funny, in the history books, I don’t recall the Romans interacting with the T-Rex..


189 posted on 10/28/2011 5:24:43 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Obama is siding with the American Nazi Party with the OWS Protestors..)
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To: KevinDavis

The history books lie!


190 posted on 10/28/2011 5:48:24 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: muawiyah
Fortunately dinos find silver distasteful so they keep their distance from us.

Ah, so they are the ancestors of werewolves? Weredinos? :-P

191 posted on 10/28/2011 9:44:21 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Ransomed
And it was all a big plot to accept Gene Robinson!

When you're, with the Flintstones
Have a yabba, dabba, doo time
A dabba doo time
We'll have a gay, old time!
:-)
192 posted on 10/28/2011 9:47:53 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: montyspython; muawiyah

There is an interesting study that the Koran is actually a Nestorian/Assyrian Christian text originally written in Syriac/Aramaic and not in Arabic.


193 posted on 10/28/2011 10:02:35 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: BrandtMichaels

one translation of tail is more the sex organ and not “thighs” but “stones”....


194 posted on 10/28/2011 10:08:02 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Ancient Drive

What makes you think God’s version of 6 days and your version are the same?


195 posted on 10/28/2011 10:11:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: stuartcr
Lets get this straight -- you believe in God as an entity, not a force around us?

Jesus as the "good man" -- but then why does He tell the Samaritan woman that food is not meant for the dogs (Samaritans)? Or the violence in the temple? Or, for that matter, why crucify a "good man"?

Bluntly also, the part of rejecting the resurrection from the dead of Jesus Christ would mean rejecting the Epistles of St. Paul and indeed the Earliest Christians all hailed Christ as resurrected.

i don't see how one can hail Jesus as just the good man and reject the rest of things around Him

196 posted on 10/28/2011 10:15:50 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

duuh. of course not — Star Wars was a documentary.. ;)


197 posted on 10/28/2011 10:17:28 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: EveningStar; KevinDavis
EveningStar The history books lie!


(*lying history books)

198 posted on 10/28/2011 10:19:38 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: anyone

Who did the children of Adam & Eve marry?


199 posted on 10/29/2011 1:23:26 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Cronos
Look at their teeth man, look at the teeth!!!

They invented fangs.

200 posted on 10/29/2011 5:55:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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