Catholic Prophecy [Why some Catholics anticipate the return of Monarchy]

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Catholic Prophecy

THE CATHOLIC KNIGHT:  Sit down my readers, grab a cup of tea and I'll tell you a story about your future.  Actually it's our future, and the future of our children, and their children.  You'll want to pay close attention, because if you're under the age of fifty, you're likely to see these events transpire within your lifetime.

If you've been watching the news lately, you've probably noticed that it seems like the world is going to hell in a hand basket.  Well, you're a very perceptive person, because it truly is.  You see the bad news is that for the short term, things are only going to get worse, much worse.  Oh sure, we'll probably have some brief respites when things settle down a bit, but they'll be followed by calamities even worse.  I'm talking about the man-made kind actually, not the natural disasters, as we have always had those.  I'm talking about such man-made disasters as economic crisis, civil unrest, wars and famine.  You're probably wondering what went wrong?  Why is the world so screwed up?  What ever happened to the good ol' days?

Well, let me lay this out for you in very simple terms.  The good ol' days ended a long time ago, long before any of us were born, and long before anyone alive today can remember.  Would it surprise you to learn that our time was prophesied centuries ago with alarming accuracy?  Here, let me give you an example...

After the year 1900, toward the middle of the 20th century, the people of that time will become unrecognisable. When the time for the Advent of the Antichrist approaches, peoples minds will grow cloudy from carnal passions, and dishonour and lawlessness will grow stronger. Then the world will become unrecognisable. Peoples appearances will change, and it will be impossible to distinguish men from women due to there shamelessness in dress and style of hair. These people will be cruel and will be like wild animals because of the temptations of the Antichrist. There will be no respect for parents or elders, love will disappear, and Christian pastors, bishops, and priests will become vain men, completely failing to distinguish the right hand way from the left. At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and the Church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures. Lust, adultery, homosexuality, secret deeds and murder will rule in society.

-- St. Nilus, 430 AD

I bet that got your attention!  A man writing some 1,600 years ago accurately predicted our present age down to the half century.  He states that this change in humanity will begin around the middle of the 20th century, and then he goes on to accurately describe the change in vivid detail.  Sure enough, during the 1960s (about the middle of the 20th century) the whole Western World underwent the a change that has been called the "sexual revolution," which radically altered our lives, habits, fashions, and appearances.  About the same time the crime rate skyrocketed, just as the early medieval prophet foretold so many centuries ago.

You'll notice in St. Nilus' prophecy a reference to Antichrist.  Now I should point out here that Nilus did not say the Antichrist would come in the 20th century, nor in the 21st century.  He specifically said "when the time for the advent of the Antichrist approaches."  In other words, when it is getting close to that time, but not necessarily the actual time itself.  That's important to remember, because our Evangelical Christian friends (God love 'em) actually believe the time of the Antichrist is here, and he'll make is presence known any day now.  Of course a lot of them believe they're going to be "raptured" as well, in a supernatural event that will snatch them out of this world so they will not have to endure the temptations of Antichrist.  Now, that's a pleasant thought, but totally unbiblical.  The early Church Fathers, those Christians who lived closest to the Apostolic age, knew nothing of this "rapture" as it is commonly taught, that is allegedly supposed to spare modern day Evangelicals from the same kind of hardship endured by the early Christians under the Roman persecutions.  It's no matter though, because in a very short time Evangelicalism will no longer exist.  For that matter, neither will any Protestant denomination or sect.  All of the pluralism we see in Christianity today will soon be extinct.

Now comes the journey.  I hope you're comfortable, because I'm about to reveal something to you that very few Christians today know, but was once common knowledge back in the early days of the Church.  It all centers around the time period leading up to the Antichrist, and in order to understand the Antichrist, we must first understand the centuries leading up to it, of which the 20th century marked the first.  We are now in the second - the 21st century.  What I don't know is how many centuries we have left to go.  What I do know is the time is short, and there are not many centuries left, but the one we currently live in will by far be the most interesting, the most terrifying and the most wonderful.  Are you sitting down?

And after these shall arise Antichrist and having by the signs and lying wonders of his magical deceit, beguiled the Jews as though he were the expected Christ, he shall afterwards characterize himself by all kinds of excesses of cruelty and lawlessness…and he shall perpetrate such things for 3 years and 6 months

"Antichrist will exceed in malice, perversity, lust, wickedness, impiety, and ruthlessness and barbarity all men that have ever disgraced human nature. Hence St. Paul emphatically calls him `the man of sin the son of perdition, the wicked one, whose birth and coming is through the operation of Satan, in all manner of seduction and iniquity.' (2 Thess., 2). Through his great power, deceit and malice he shall succeed in decoying or forcing to his worship two thirds of mankind; the remaining third part of men will continue true to the faith and worship of Jesus Christ most steadfastly. But in his satanic rage and fury, Antichrist will persecute these brave and devout Christians during three years and a half, and torture them with such an extremity of barbarity, with all the old and newly invented instruments of pain, as to exceed all past persecutors of the Church combined. He will oblige all his followers to bear impressed upon their foreheads or right hands the mark of the Beast and will starve to death all those who refuse to receive it."

This one shall seize the power of the Roman Empire and shall falsely style himself Christ. By the name Christ he shall deceive the Jews who are expecting the anointed and he shall seduce the Gentiles by his magical illusions.

-- St. Cyril of Jerusalem, 386 AD

Now as these writings get closer in proximity to the time of the Apostles, we can safely assume that what we are reading is not so much a mystical prediction of private revelation, as it is a faithful passing on of oral tradition from the Apostles themselves.  A lot is said about the Antichrist by the early Church Fathers, and from this we learn a lot about him.  We learn that he will deceive the Jews.  From other contemporary writings we learn that he will be a Jew himself, born in the Middle East somewhere in present-day Iraq, and will come to power in the area we now call Israel.  As a Jew he will deceive the Jewish people into believing he is the Messiah, and two-thirds of the world will follow him.  We do not know how long his actual reign in Jerusalem will be, but it is suspected that he will reign for a fairly long time (perhaps decades), but it is the last 3 1/2 years of his reign that is most interesting.  This is when he seizes control of the "Roman Empire."  It is during this time he unleashes the most ferocious persecution of Christians the world has ever known, rivaling that of all the Roman emperors in ages past, and the Communists and Muslims to today.   Let us understand something here.  Many evil men have reigned over various territories in the past, and it is likely that many more evil men are to come, but just being "evil" is not what makes one the Antichrist.  The word "Antichrist" is a biblical term.  It has religious underpinnings and outside of religion it means nothing.  The word "Antichrist" is the Greek rendering of a 1st century Jewish concept of the Anti-Messiah!  The Anti-Messiah is a false Messiah, and to be sure, the Jews have seen many anti-messiahs in their history. However, this one foretold in Christian Scripture and Tradition is a special case.  It is an Anti-Messiah (false Messiah) that is so convincing that he not only dupes almost all the Jews, but two-thirds of the world's population as well.  Christian Scripture and Tradition tell us he doesn't act alone, but he is aided by none other than the devil himself. All of this is extremely important to remember, because if we are to properly understand the Antichrist, we must do so strictly in Jewish terms.

Now it is the last portion of St. Cyril's record that is of particular interest to us.  He states the "this one" meaning Antichrist "shall seize the power of the Roman Empire."  Now that is interesting since the Roman Empire ceased to exist some 1,500 years ago in the West and some 550 years ago in the East.  Our Evangelical brethren, once again hot on the trail of a supposed present-day Antichrist, have pointed out the reunification of Europe under the European Union, and assume this must be the return of ancient Rome.  Once again that's a quaint idea but in order to truly have an empire you must first have an emperor - a single monarch who's rule is absolute.  Nothing like that exists today.  St. Cyril tells us the Antichrist "shall seize the power of the Roman Empire," implying that he just takes it, as if it is not rightfully his to begin with.   How then?  How does a man steal some nonexistent thing, from somebody who clearly does not exist?   The answer is simple.  The emperor and empire still have yet to come...

The Great Gaulish Monarch, who shall subject all the East, shall come around the end of the world. These things, then, coming to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but' the coming of our Lord and Saviour from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? who shall bring the conflagration and just judgment upon all who have refused to believe on Him

"Christ arose from among the Hebrews, and he (Antichrist) will spring from among the Jews. Christ showed His flesh as a Temple, and raised it up on the third day; and he, too, will raise up again the Temple of stone in Jerusalem.

-- St. Hippolytus, 236 AD

You'll notice we're going further back in time now.  This writing comes to us from the early third century, while Christians were still being thrown to lions under the Roman persecutions.  St. Hippolytus' grandfather would have been old enough to remember the Apostle John.  The teachings of the apostles about these things still would have been fresh in Church memory.  The context is in reference to the Antichrist, and indeed these early Church fathers did preoccupy themselves with the Antichrist in many of their writings.  Once again we learn a few new traits of this man of sin.  It is however, the first sentence that is of most interest to us now.  "The Great Gaulish Monarch, who shall subject all the East, shall come around the end of the world."  Notice the vague reference to time.  He shall come "around the end of the world."  It's not at the end of the world, or even immediately before the end of the world, but "around" that time.  So it is sometime in the centuries prior to the end of the world, and likewise the coming of Antichrist.  According to St. Nilus' prophecy above about the end times beginning around the later half of the 20th century, that would put the coming of this "Great Gaulish Monarch" sometime in our immediate proximity.  In case you're wondering, "Gaul" was what the ancient Romans called a certain portion of Western Europe.  Today we call it France.  In the centuries to follow, more Christians gave testimony to this tradition presumably coming from the Apostolic era...

A Frankish King will one day rule over the entire Roman Empire."

-- St. Augustine, 5th Century

He shall reign over the entire ancient Roman Empire."

-- Remy, 5th Century

Okay, so we now know that the early Christians believed there would one day come a French king who would rule over the entire Roman Empire, and that this will happen toward the end of the world, or more specifically in the centuries leading up to the time of Antichrist and the end of the world.  We currently live in an age of Republics right now.  Western monarchies are effectively neutered these days - little more than national figureheads.  There is no Roman Empire to speak of, because there is no Roman emperor.  Right now Europe is united as a loose confederacy of republics.  There is no central figurehead, and there is not likely to be under the constitutional system now set up.  So how can this happen?  Another 4th century saint gives us a clue...

A time will come when the enemies of Christ will boast: "We have subjected the earth and all its inhabitants, and the Christians cannot escape our hands." Then a Roman Emperor will arise in great fury against them... Drawing his sword, he will fall upon the foes of Christianity and crush them. Then peace will reign on earth, and priests will be relieved of all their anxieties.

In the latter days of the world, Christians will become ungrateful for the great favours they will receive through the coming of the great Monarch, by reason of the long period of peace and prosperity on earth which they will enjoy under his reign. Many man will then begin to doubt if the Christian faith is the only really sanctifying faith and will think perhaps the Jews are right because they are awaiting the Messiah.

--St. Methodius of Olympus, 311 AD

Okay, so now we have a chronology.  First a great time of trial for Christians comes.  Then the Great French Monarch comes to save the day, putting down the enemies of Christianity.  In turn however, because of the great peace he delivers that lasts a very long time, people will start to take it for granted.  As a result there will be a great apostasy, eventually leading two-thirds of the world's population away from Christ, and resulting in the rise of Antichrist. 

So now we have the big picture.  The reason why the Antichrist will eventually be able to steal the power of the Roman Empire is because the Roman Empire is coming back.  This time not as a Pagan system, but as the medieval Holy Roman Empire restored!  Only after a long period of such rule will the Antichrist come and attempt to steal it away.

As we look around us, we can see that the fall of democratic republicanism in our time is inevitable now. The Socialist-Islamic (IslamoSocialist) alliance in Europe has successfully exploited the weakness of our democratic system, and the problem will only get worse in the years (or decades) ahead. That coupled with the moral decline and economic decline of the western world, signals the end of the American and European republics.

(Zenit.org) - On an official visit to Italy this week, the Libyan chief of state caused a few ripples by stating that Europe should convert to Islam. The general public was perhaps more shocked, however, by his request for a few billion dollars to stop African immigration.

However, a missionary priest did call for taking seriously Muammar al-Qadhafi's statements on religion, saying a European conversion to Islam just might happen if the continent continues denying its Christian roots.

Father Piero Gheddo of the Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions and founder of the missionary news agency AsiaNews, said that far from being "folklore," al-Qadhafi's summons could become a reality in a few decades....

read full story here

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(CBN) Friday in Paris. A hidden camera shows streets blocked by huge crowds of Muslim worshippers and enforced by a private security force.

This is all illegal in France: the public worship, the blocked streets, and the private security. But the police have been ordered not to intervene. 

It shows that even though some in the French government want to get tough with Muslims and ban the burqa, other parts of the French government continue to give Islam a privileged status. 

An ordinary French citizen who has been watching the Islamization of Paris decided that the world needed to see what was happening to his city. He used a hidden camera to start posting videos on YouTube. His life has been threatened and so he uses the alias of "Maxime Lepante."

read full story here

The only counter to this IslamoSocialist infiltration is a healthy and robust Christianity - particularly CATHOLIC Christianity - as it is the only form of Christianity that abhors artificial birth control and has successfully repelled Islam in the past (in the crusades!).  What these ancient prophecies tell us is another crusade is coming.  It will be the last and final crusade - the mother of all crusades - that will deliver a death blow to the whole IslamoSocialist regime in Europe and the IslamoShariah system in the Middle East.

Before this can happen however, all of the Catholic prophecies and the teachings of the most ancient Church Fathers agree there must first be a crisis - a Chastisement of God - that will cause the present system of things to crumble.  The Chastisement marks the last epic of human history, starting with a calamity that changes the world, resulting in the longest period of peace the world has ever known.  It will be the last reign of Christian kings, with a Great Monarch ruling over a revived Holy Roman Empire, from Iberia to Siberia, that will far surpass everything that has previously existed.  This will last for an unspecified amount of time.  Catholic prophecies seem to indicate at least a couple centuries is likely.  During the latter part of that time period the world will fall back into it's depraved state, and it is at that time the Antichrist will arise, steal the power of the revived Holy Roman Empire for himself and use it in an attempt to destroy the Church.  He will nearly succeed before he is killed and sometime after that Jesus Christ will return to raise the dead and judge the nations.  We are now living in the time just before the Chastisement.

We don't know much about the Chastisement, but this we do know...

1. It is brought upon us by our worldwide sins against God ranging from artificial contraception to abortion to euthanasia, to sexual sins of various types (including homosexuality, adultery and fornication), as well as Socialism, Atheism, Hedonism and indifference toward the poor.  To summarize, it is caused by our personal and cultural abandonment of the Christian gospel message.
2. It consists of two parts.  The first part is man-made, the second part is God-made.
3. It begins with riots, civil unrest and war - particularly in Europe.
4. It is marked by an event that causes the pope to flee Rome and eventually be assassinated while in exile.
5. It results in the election of another pope (in exile) who crowns a new French king to save France from anarchy - this man later becomes the Great Monarch of the Holy Roman Empire.
6. It ends with three-days of strange darkness that will cover the whole world, poison the air, and leave 2/3 to 3/4 of the world's population dead.  The result of this ecological catastrophe leaves the enemies of the Great Monarch powerless to resist him.

7. It concludes with the Great Monarch restoring the Holy Roman Empire and ruling the whole world.  He abolishes all democratic republics and restores a system of monarchy over all the regions of the world.  In total, twelve monarchs will rule the entire planet, under the direction of the Great Monarch.  For Christians it will be the greatest time of peace and missionary outreach the world has ever known.

These seven events await our immediate future.  They could come as soon as tomorrow, or possibly as late as thirty years from now, but they will come - most certainly!

The American republic is slowly dying and European democracy will soon fade away.  According to the prophecies this Great Monarch is coming soon. Within our lifetime. I am sure of it....

Prophecies on the Rise of the Great Monarch

Rudolph Gekner, 17th Century: "His sword will be moved by Divine power..."

Monk Adso (10th Century): "Some of our teachers say that a King of the Franks will possess the entire Roman Empire. He will be the greatest and last of all Monarchs. After having wisely governed his kingdom, he will go into Jerusalem and will lay his sceptre and his crown upon the Mount of Olives. Immediately afterwards, Antichrist will come."

David Poreaus (17th Century): "The Great Monarch will be of French descent, large forehead, large dark eyes, light brown wavy hair, and an eagle nose. He will crush the enemies of the Pope and will conquer the East."

St. Francis of Paola (15th Century) "By the grace of the Almighty, the great Monarch will annihilate heretics and unbelievers. He will have a great army, and angels will fight at his side. He will be like the sun among the stars. His influence will spread over the whole earth. All in all, there will be on earth twelve Kings, one Emperor, one Pope, and a few Princes. They will all lead holy lives."

St. Augustine, 5th Century):" A Frankish King will one day rule over the entire Roman Empire."

Old Saxon prophecy: "He will come from the Fleur-de-Lis..."

St. Cataldus, 5th Century: "... a King of the House of Lilies..."

St. Caesar, 5th Century: "He shall recover the Crown of the Lilies....."

St. Hildegarde, German Abbess, 12th Century: "The White Flower again takes possession of the Throne of France."

Bishop Ageda, 12th Century: "He shall inherit the Crown of the Fleur-de-Lis"

Busto (15th Century): "The angelic Pope shall place an imperial crown on his head."

Remy (5th Century): "He shall reign over the entire ancient Roman Empire."

Aystinger: " ... by whom the ancient glory of the Empire shall be restored. He shall be Emperor of Europe."

St. Francis de Paola (15th Century): "(He and the Holy Pontiff) shall obtain dominion over the whole world.

Holzhauser: "He will restore everything."

St. Hildegarde:"Peace will return when the Lily ascends the Throne again. The land will be very productive."

St. Bridget: "And the earth shall enjoy peace and prosperity."

St. John-Mary Vianney, Cur‚ of Ars (19th Century): "This shall re-establish a peace and prosperity without precedent."

(Old German prophecy): "He will be lame afoot ... "

(Anne-Catherine Emmerich, 19th Century): "God touched the sinew of his hip. He was in great pain and from that day on, he walked with a limp ... "

(Peasant Jasper, Germany): "This Prince shall mount his horse on the right-hand side, because he limps from one foot .... "

Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich, July 12, 1820: "I had a vision of the holy Emperor Henry. I saw him at night kneeling alone at the foot of the main altar in a great and beautiful church . . . and I saw the Blessed Virgin coming down all alone. She laid on the altar a red cloth covered with white linen. She placed a book inlaid with precious stones. She lit the candles and the perpetual lamp . . . Then came down the Saviour Himself clad in priestly vestments. He was carrying the chalice and the veil. Two Angels were serving Him and two more were following . . . His chasuble was a full and heavy mantle in which red and white could be seen in transparency, and gleaming with jewels . . . Although there was no altar bell, the cruets were there. The wine was red as blood, and there was also some water. The Mass was short. The Gospel of St. John was not read at the end. When the Mass has ended, Mary came up to Henry (the Emperor), and she extended her right hand towards him, saying that it was in recognition of his purity. Then, she urged him not to falter. Thereupon I saw an angel, and he touched the sinew of his hip, like Jacob. He (Henry) was in great pain, and from that day on, he walked with a limp . . . "

The Catholic Knight laments the fall of the republics, but hails the return of the kings, particularly the great Christian king who will rule virtually all the world.  Within our lifetimes we shall likely see him.  Prepare yourselves, and prepare you children, for he will come, but only after a terrible Chastisement from God. If you would like to learn more about these events from one of the most reputable sources ever put to print, The Catholic Knight would like to invite you to read "Trial, Tribulation and Triumph" by Desmond Birch.

There are many books written on the coming Chastisement and the following Tribulation of Antichrist, but none offer such a well researched, exhaustive and orderly presentation of APPROVED Catholic prophecy than this book by Desmond Birch. If you read anything about End Times eschatology, than this is a book that belongs in your library. There are many other books out there, but in the opinion of The Catholic Knight, this one is the BEST!

[Quix]

DREAMS,
FANTASIES,
HALLUCINATIONS,
LIES & DECEPTIONS FROM HELL,
ARE
very
DIFFERENT
FROM THE TRUTH OF
THE GOSPEL OF JESUS THE CHRIST

satanic globalist goals, strategies, methods,
have been
increasingly consuming and controlling
the Ashteroth-Mary-cult otherwise known as
The Vatican/The RCC
for centuries
and increasingly ruthlessly the last several decades.

Thankfully,
The Lord Jesus Himself
will sweep all cults and imposters away
at the literal Armageddon
looming on the near horizon.

First . . .
The Anti-Christ/Anarchist
and a lot
of bloodshed.

'. . . those who kill . . . will think they do God a service.'

Which is true of Islam and others.

[SuziQ]

I’m not interested in a Catholic ‘Monarchy’. It’s a complete fantasy. We Catholics are humans, like adherents of any other faith tradition, and subject to the same weaknesses and sinfulness. Just because someone is a Catholic doesn’t mean he or she would make an inherently better king or ruler of any sort.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Antisemitism is the worse form of racism because it promotes Satan's agenda.

Actually, as much as I despise anti-semitism, the worst form of hatred is anti-Catholicism. Jesus built a Church, and entrusted it with the salvation of souls. Modern Israel cannot confer Grace to save souls. Therefore, as much as Satan hates the race from which the Savior arose, he hates the Church which the Savior founded for the salvation of souls that much more.

Anti-Catholicism is a far greater menace to mankind and the salvation of souls than antisemitism.

But both antisemitism and anti-Catholicism are indeed demonic, and equally to be abhorred.

[Quix]

Don’t worry, this rapture nonsense will also be a long and gladly forgotten bad memory.

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The Word of God:

New International Version (©1984)
According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.

New Living Translation (©2007)
We tell you this directly from the Lord: We who are still living when the Lord returns will not meet him ahead of those who have died.

English Standard Version (©2001)
For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

International Standard Version (©2008)
For we declare to you what the Lord has told us to say: We who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have died.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But this we say to you by the word of Our Lord, that we, those who remain at the coming of Our Lord, we who have life, shall not overtake those who are asleep;

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
We are telling you what the Lord taught. We who are still alive when the Lord comes will not go [into his kingdom] ahead of those who have already died.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not precede them who are asleep.

American King James Version
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain to the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

American Standard Version
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep.

Bible in Basic English
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are still living at the coming of the Lord, will not go before those who are sleeping.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For this we say unto you in the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them who have slept.

Darby Bible Translation
(For this we say to you in the word of the Lord, that we, the living, who remain to the coming of the Lord, are in no way to anticipate those who have fallen asleep;

English Revised Version
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep.

Webster's Bible Translation
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain to the coming of the Lord shall not precede them who are asleep.

Weymouth New Testament
For this we declare to you on the Lord's own authority--that we who are alive and continue on earth until the Coming of the Lord, shall certainly not forestall those who shall have previously passed away.

World English Bible
For this we tell you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left to the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep.

Young's Literal Translation
for this to you we say in the word of the Lord, that we who are living -- who do remain over to the presence of the Lord -- may not precede those asleep,

New International Version (©1984)
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

New Living Translation (©2007)
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the Christians who have died will rise from their graves.

English Standard Version (©2001)
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

International Standard Version (©2008)
With a shout of command, with the archangel's call, and with the sound of God's trumpet, the Lord himself will come down from heaven, and the dead who belong to the Messiah will rise first.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Because our Lord shall descend from Heaven with a command and with the voice of the Archangel and with the trumpet blast of God, and the dead who are in The Messiah shall rise first;

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The Lord will come from heaven with a command, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet [call] of God. First, the dead who believed in Christ will come back to life.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

American King James Version
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

American Standard Version
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first;

Bible in Basic English
Because the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a word of authority, with the voice of the chief angel, with the sound of a horn: and the dead in Christ will come to life first;

Douay-Rheims Bible
For the Lord himself shall come down from heaven with commandment, and with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead who are in Christ, shall rise first.

Darby Bible Translation
for the Lord himself, with an assembling shout, with archangel's voice and with trump of God, shall descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;

English Revised Version
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Webster's Bible Translation
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Weymouth New Testament
For the Lord Himself will come down from Heaven with a loud word of command, and with an archangel's voice and the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

World English Bible
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with God's trumpet. The dead in Christ will rise first,

Young's Literal Translation
because the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the trump of God, shall come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ shall rise first,

New International Version (©1984)
After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will be with the Lord forever.

English Standard Version (©2001)
Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

International Standard Version (©2008)
Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And then we who remain, who have life, we shall be carried away with them together in clouds to a meeting of our Lord in the air, and in this way, we shall always be with Our Lord.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Then, together with them, we who are still alive will be taken in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. In this way we will always be with the Lord.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

American King James Version
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

American Standard Version
then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Bible in Basic English
Then we who are still living will be taken up together with them into the clouds to see the Lord in the air: and so will we be for ever with the Lord.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Then we who are alive, who are left, shall be taken up together with them in the clouds to meet Christ, into the air, and so shall we be always with the Lord.

Darby Bible Translation
then we, the living who remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall be always with the Lord.

English Revised Version
then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Webster's Bible Translation
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Weymouth New Testament
Afterwards we who are alive and are still on earth will be caught up in their company amid clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

World English Bible
then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord forever.

Young's Literal Translation
then we who are living, who are remaining over, together with them shall be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in air, and so always with the Lord we shall be;

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Hawaii Calvary Chapel Palistinian Pastor JD Faraq's general youtube listings including his excellent series on the PRE-TRIB RAPTURE:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Pastor+JD+Faraq&aq=f

Chuck Missler's PRE-TRIB SERIES:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAthXaYLPwI

Colton Burpo's HEAVEN IS FOR REAL youtube listings . . . A moving narrative of what

we'll be 'RAPTURED'

[Greek text: 'HARPADZO'd' TO!:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Heaven+is+for+real&aq=f

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[Zionist Conspirator]

Is this the part you're having a fit about, that the anti-Christ will present himself to the Jews as a Jew and as a messiah, and that many Jews will be deceived because they did not see the True Messiah Jesus Christ as their Savior?

It might have helped if the "true messiah" had actually fulfilled the messianic prophecies. Too much to ask for, I suppose.

If that's what you're having a fit about, I can't help you. That's just basic Christian teaching on the end times.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what you're ranting about.

I'm ranting about two (2) things: 1), the idea of an evil eschatological figure who teaches Judaism rather than a syncretistic nightmare pan-religion (like JP "the great" pushed at Assisi), and 2)Catholics who have crying hissies over the big bad Proddies attacking their beautiful rituals who have the gall to hypocritically turn right around and demand that Jews cease all their own rituals which were commanded to them by G-d at Mt. Sinai.

If you are warring against Judaism's Divine Commandments, I have news for you bub: you don't reject anti-Semitism. You're practicing it (and hypocrisy to boot).

[MEGoody]

. . .because our Evangelical Christian friends (God love 'em) actually believe the time of the Antichrist is here. . .

Well, some of them. The rest of us know the time is approaching and also realize we don't know how long it will actually take for things to play out. God knows, and that is what matters.

[CynicalBear]

>> All of the pluralism we see in Christianity today will soon be extinct.<<

A one world religion you say! Whoda thunk it? LOL

[Dominick]

http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/B260_MoreNilus.html

The “prophecy” of Nilus was unknown before the 20th century, sounds like a fraud.

Reading the Catholic Church in the Modern World (E.E.Y. Hales 1958) will shed a better light on the concept of “Catholic” Monarchy. Most of the time, monarchy as practiced was incompatible with the Faith.

I have no comment on the fight among the freepers here, except that I hope your bladders empty soon.

[Quix]

THE SUFFERING SERVANT

‘HALF’

WERE FULFILLED to the letter.

The

CONQUERING KING HALF

will also be fulfilled to the letter.

Evidently very much on the very near horizon.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

You can spam a thread all you like my FRiend, but that doesn't change the fact that the modern concept of the Rapture was unheard of prior to the 1830s. Its an invention of man, an incorrect interpretation of one or two scripture verses. An interpretation that is false and has caused enormous harm to the body of Christ.

[Uri’el-2012]

My take-away is that the author quotes many, many sinners,
but never cites the Holy WORD of G-d.

Th author looks to men who are sinners for salvation,
but never to YHvH for salvation.

Psalm 118:8
It is better to take refuge in YHvH
Than to trust in man.

Psalm 118:9
It is better to take refuge in YHvH
Than to trust in princes.

Those who seek wisdom in sinners
reject YHvH, creator or the universe.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Brian Kopp DPM]

the idea of an evil eschatological figure who teaches Judaism rather than a syncretistic nightmare pan-religion

Please point out exactly where in this thread someone said the anti-Christ would teach orthodox Judaism rather than a syncretistic nightmare pan-religion.

you don't reject anti-Semitism. You're practicing it

LOL!

anti-Semite: a person who’s hated by Jews

[Brian Kopp DPM]

“An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews.”
― Joseph Sobran

[Uri’el-2012]

WOW ! The WORD of G-d is Spam !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Quix]

, but that doesn't change the fact that the modern concept of the Rapture was unheard of prior to the 1830s. Its an invention of man, an incorrect interpretation of one or two scripture verses. An interpretation that is false and has caused enormous harm to the body of Christ.

We have DOCUMENTED

The falseness of such assertions many times on FR. Why RC's persist in believing and posting such inaccuracies is beyond me . . . unless it's perverse . . . cussedness.

Such interpretations have been documented very solidly back more than 800 years and somewhat solidly to the early church.

[SuziQ]

The Catholic church will be busy assisting and embracing the Antichrist just like it helped Hitler during WWII.

Horse hockey! You've been listening to revisionist anti-Catholic propagandists. Even the the New York Times, in the early 40s, praised the Pope for being one of a very few voices in Europe raised AGAINST Hitler, during his rise in Germany. For an accurate, and heavily attributed, view of just exactly what the Pope and the Catholic Church, were doing during WWII, read "The Myth of Hitler's Pope", by Rabbi David Dalin.

[Quix]

So,

if RC’s descend on a Proddy thread, it’s

“RIGHTEOUS SPAMMING” by the

Vatican-Ashteroth-Mary-Cult’s agents???

But if Proddys do, it’s intolerable?

LOL.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

I’m not interested in a Catholic ‘Monarchy’.

Neither am I. But it plays an integral role in a very large 2000 year old body of Catholic prophecy. So I find it hard to ignore, and at least it helps me understand my brothers in the Faith who ARE interested in a Catholic Monarchy.

It’s a complete fantasy.

That remains to be seen. Some folks whose opinion I respect think the "Catholic Monarchy" prophecies were provisional prophecies that were not fulfilled and whose time has long past, and that all that remains to us is the imminent reign of Anti-Christ and the Second Coming.

But for those who believe the prophecies of Fatima, which foretold the conversion of Russia and a period of Peace, and Akita and those of Blessed Elena Aiello, which foretold a coming chastisement, it would seem there will be a time frame intervening between our present world chaos/crises and the End.

[Quix]

ABSOLUTELY INDEED, of course.

LUB

[Uri’el-2012]

But for those who believe the prophecies of Fatima,

Isn't Fatima the daughter of Mohamed ?

Great source of understanding.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach