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The king of the bibles
The Telegraph ^ | November 14, 2011 | Peter Mullen

Posted on 11/18/2011 9:49:29 PM PST by hiho hiho

For centuries, people of all walks of life have carried around with them echoes of the King James Version. So to throw it out as the church hierarchy has done amounts to a savage act of deprivation and, as this deprivation is of the Word of God in English, it is vicious iconoclasm. Sidelining the King James Version especially deprives our children and is therefore a notable case of child abuse.

There is no such thing as noble truth expressed in ignoble words. The choice of words determines what is being said. Therefore, we should choose the best.

“Strips of cloth” is no substitute for “swaddling clothes”. And Mary was “with child” – we think of the Madonna and Child – and she had not “fallen pregnant” as it says in one of the modern versions. You cannot satisfactorily replace “through a glass darkly” with the crass literalism “puzzling reflections in a mirror” or “sounding brass and tinkling cymbal” with “noisy gong and clanging cymbal”. The King James Bible was designed to be read aloud in churches. All the modern versions sound as if they have been written by tone-deaf people with tin ears and no rhythm.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Worship
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To: hiho hiho

Bookmarked.


21 posted on 11/19/2011 12:29:53 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: tommix2

New International Version. A decent phrase by phrase translation.

I prefer the NASB, New American Standard Bible as a better word by word translation.

It helps to go back to original Greek and Hebrew word studies to avoid mixing our scarred modern day worldly thinking with the meanings being communicated in Scripture.

Ultimately, we simply want to study His Word.

Interestingly, there are some OT passages quoted in the NT in the Greek which were slightly mistranslated, but both are in Scripture, which reveals God the Holy Spirit is still able to use both to sanctify us as we understand His Word in our thinking.

Our real focus is to remain in fellowship with Him, and He does the communication in our human spirit to further sanctify our thinking in our souls.


22 posted on 11/19/2011 12:32:11 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: hiho hiho

I grew up learning verses in the KJV. The poetic style is more appealing and easier to remember. I read the Amplified version for study purposes. I pray for guidance no matter what version I read. I’ve seen some awful versions with incredibly misleading interpretations.


23 posted on 11/19/2011 12:56:18 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: tommix2

http://www.biblica.com/niv/


25 posted on 11/19/2011 1:15:18 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: hiho hiho

It’s a rare Englishman today who’s genuinely proud of England, even more rare its culture.


26 posted on 11/19/2011 5:07:44 AM PST by Oratam
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To: hiho hiho

Excellent.

The King of English translations indeed!


27 posted on 11/19/2011 5:22:21 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: hiho hiho

So true. And it’s no accident that the KJV is being thrown aside. Satan has been doing that to The Word Of God since Eden.

The lie in the assertion that modern versions are more readable is the implication that the King James Bible is less readable. That just isn’t true. Linguistic tests have been conducted on both versions and people had more understanding of the King James Version and were better able to memorize passages from it.


28 posted on 11/19/2011 6:19:08 AM PST by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: hiho hiho

Just as ridiculous as the coined “If the King James Version was good enough for the Apostle Paul, it’s good enough for me.”

Like Harley Davidson and their push rod engines.


29 posted on 11/19/2011 6:20:49 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Let's roll on this gunwalking thing already! NRA <BCC><)
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To: TFMcGuire

‘TrinitarianBibleSociety’ is an oxymoron. there is no Trinity in the Bible. it’s not there. It is a syncretic fabrication...an attempt to explain a sublime Mystery to unlearned pagan converts; a part of the great drift away from Torah as the message moved further into The Roman-Hellenic milieu. As God told Abraham, “Go, Go for yourself!” Return to Torah; You’ll be glad you did.


30 posted on 11/19/2011 6:31:33 AM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
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To: AndyTheBear

“I presume the author is aware the bible was originally in Hebrew, Greek, with a little in Aramaic....but the tone of his article implies he thought it written in the Kings English (or Latin at least).”

Just because you disagree with someone does not mean they are ignorant.

Dr. Peter Mullen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mullen


31 posted on 11/19/2011 6:46:58 AM PST by hiho hiho
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To: preacher

Pleas don’t call them “Old English”. They are all early modern English terms. This is the Old English Bible: http://wordhord.org/nasb/


32 posted on 11/19/2011 6:47:56 AM PST by vladimir998 (Public school grads are often too dumb to realize they're dumb)
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To: Torahman

“‘TrinitarianBibleSociety’ is an oxymoron. there is no Trinity in the Bible. it’s not there. It is a syncretic fabrication...an attempt to explain a sublime Mystery to unlearned pagan converts; a part of the great drift away from Torah as the message moved further into The Roman-Hellenic milieu. As God told Abraham, “Go, Go for yourself!” Return to Torah; You’ll be glad you did.”

Silly man!

You are educated beyond your intelligence.

“Except ye believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.” (Jn 8:24).


33 posted on 11/19/2011 6:49:25 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

“Just as ridiculous as the coined “If the King James Version was good enough for the Apostle Paul, it’s good enough for me.”

Those are words we Biblicists use to poke fun at ourselves.

the Irony is lost on those who hate the AV (KJV).


34 posted on 11/19/2011 6:53:51 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: RoadTest

Your words are very true, Sir.


35 posted on 11/19/2011 6:56:01 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: roamer_1

Very true!


36 posted on 11/19/2011 6:57:44 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: tommix2

the chapters and verses were set 300 years before the KJV Bible was translated by an English Catholic Archbishop, Stephen Langton.


37 posted on 11/19/2011 8:12:46 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: hiho hiho

It should be noted that the KJV is essentially the 4th Edition of the Tyndale Bible. Over 85% of the KJV is taken verbatim from John Tyndale’s translation.


38 posted on 11/19/2011 8:25:06 AM PST by circlecity
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To: hiho hiho

These links are great. Just tweeted them.


39 posted on 11/19/2011 8:35:49 AM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: hiho hiho

While a majestic work worth great respect, it loses it’s relevance to an audience suffering a multiple-century language gap. To use a more accessible work to expose Scripture to children hardly constitutes “child abuse”. To condemn the translation’s deprication is to condemn the translation itself, as the KJV is but a poor translation of the original rendering as God saw fit.


40 posted on 11/19/2011 9:54:32 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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