Posted on 12/08/2011 7:46:56 AM PST by Colofornian
From the article: "You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a God, and also upon Brigham Young, our Governor” Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 5, p. 88
From the article: "Whosoever... does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist...," Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 176
Y'all (non-Mormons) didn't know that Mormons think you are of the "anti-Christ," did you? All because you fail to "confess Joseph Smith."
And here I thought the Bible emphasized confessing Jesus Christ!!!!
From the article: [There is] "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God" Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
Joseph Fielding Smith was the 10th "prophet" of the Mormon church...He says "no salvation" -- "no kingdom of God" for you...unless you "accept Joseph Smith."
Obviously Smith is the "the way, the truth, and the life" for the Mormon church:
The cousin of Mitt Romney's father, George -- Marion Romney -- was one of three highest ranking Mormons as a member of the LDS First Presidency. Marion Romney said half a century ago: "This Church is the ensign on the mountain spoken of by the Old Testament prophets. It is the way, the truth, and the life" (Conference Report, April, 1961, pg. 119).
No, Marion Romney. There is NO substitute for Christ! Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)
Still...Mormons place people like Brigham Young on a high platform by naming their most prominent university after him...And Young claimed that Joseph Smith's "consent" is needed to live forever with Heavenly Father...all because Young regarded Joseph Smith "as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven":
From the article: "No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith...every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are... [Joseph Smith] reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven. Many will exclaim—"Oh, that is very disagreeable! It is preposterous! We cannot bear the thought!" But it is true." Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p.289-91
Don’t believe me that this doesn’t practically carry itself out?
Then read these posted articles:
* Dealing with “Smithmas” [Mormon worship of Joseph Smith]
* Joseph Smith: a witness of Christ [O Come, O Come EmmanSMITHuel, anyone?]
* 'Praise to the Man' honors Joseph Smith [Mormon Merry Smithmas!]
* Joseph Smith: Blessed Be His Name [Mormon Merry Smithmas]
* “Praise To The Man”: A Review Of The Annual Joseph Smith Memorial Sermons [Mormon Merry Smithmas]
* Joseph Smith Jr.—Prophet of God, Mighty Servant
* Tis the season for Smithmas; Whom do you worship? [Mormon Merry Smithmas]
Blasphemy!
Do they have the angel Moroni on top of their Christmas tree?
All false religion rots the soul.
Thanks for the post.
“I boast that no man ever did such a work as I.”
This guy is such a stud. Maybe he should do an endzone dance.
Congrats to the “prophet” for getting it exactly wrong.
My hope is that lds and its defenders read the words of lds leaders and their founders to learn, see and take to heart what they are following and defending.
I am mind blown that lds can defend this belief system, and deny that these words have been spoken by those very leaders.
It appears on FR that lds members and defender will deny the words that are right on their computer screens and scream they are not true......even though they are documented, linked to original sources all from lds informational sites.
Are these recent posting about Joseph Smith, Jr., for real???? I hope they’re sarcastic posting about this stone reading, embezzling, polygamist, pedophiliac, phony prophet.
If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex- monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to remarry.
If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.
If you are a Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England founded by Samuel Seabury in the American colonies in the 17th century.
If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.
If you are a Methodist, your religion was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.
If you are a Unitarian, Theophilus Lindley founded your church in London in 1774.
If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, N.Y., in 1829.
If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1605.
If you are of the Dutch Reformed church, you recognize Michaelis Jones as founder, because he originated your religion in New York in 1628.
If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.
If you are a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as 'Church of the Nazarene," "Pentecostal Gospel." "Holiness Church," "Pilgrim Holiness Church," "Jehovah's Witnesses," your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past century.
If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.
Most of these quotes were from the 19th century. Joseph Fielding Smith and Bruce McConkie are from the 20th century. Yes. Real comments. Real Mormon general authorities. Most of them either by Lds "prophets" or "apostles."
Wow, that makes Joseph Smith almost as big as The Beatles!
It's like saying if you're a patriarch of a family, it was jumpstarted by you.
But we ALL -- patriarch or not -- go back to Noah and his wife. And before that, back to Adam and Eve.
You have therefore cited something that arbitrarily draws a line in the sand.
What? Did your family start with you, thesaleboat? You had no father or mother? You were some immaculate conception who arrived suddenly on the scene? No heritage?
Look at Martin Luther's history, for example. He didn't name any church after himself. [That was done externally]
Luther considered himself to be part and parcel of the historic church. He was there to REFORM the church; not 100% knock it down and start from scratch.
You have flunked church history.
You fail at history.
I guess I should avoid these religious threads...
He formed the Eastern Roman Empire which led to the Eastern Orthodox Church. I don't see Orthodox anywhere on your list. You only start with Martin Luther!
Take a look in the mirror and you will see BIGOT!!!
How Old Is Your Church?And if you are a CHRISTIAN - one who has accepted Christ's Gospel of Grace, regardless of which local fellowship you worship with - you belong to the ONE TRUE CHURCH, purposed in the heart of God before time began!If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex- monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.
Look at what Smith got up to:
Taking other men's wives and daughters into his own harem.
Boozing and drugging himself up while keeping the riff raff teetotal.
Removing 10% of their income and using it for his own.
Living the high life while others subsistance farmed.
Getting people periodically to uproot and move you and themselves when you got yourself into trouble.
Moammar Ghadaafi could only dream about Smith's accomplishments. Smith's people never turned on him at the end, either.
Founded by Christ and commissioned by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Funny how the Bible Believers (tm) don't seem to believe that...
If you are a Christian, you know that your religion was founded when God created the heaven and the earth.
This was very simplistic and very wrong. The ROMAN Catholic church of today is VERY DIFFERENT from the Roman Catholic church of the time of the reformation. Martin Luther did not start a new religion. He didn’t want to cause a division within the church. He simply wanted the established church of his day to get back to the faith of the New Testament as taught by Jesus and the Apostles.
Martin Luther lead the reformation in order to RECLAIM that faith.
If you think everything was hunky dory with the Roman Catholic church, then you need to read why how the Jesuits got started in order to train a large number of clergy who couldn’t even read the Bible from which they could not teach. Simultaneously, they were burning people at the stake for distributing copies of Bibles to common folk.
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