Skip to comments.Reasons Joseph Smith Is More Important Than Jesus [Mormon Merry Smithmas!]
Posted on 12/08/2011 7:46:56 AM PST by Colofornian
"Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409)
"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]" Apostle George Q. Cannon, as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142
"Whosoever... does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist...," Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 176
[There is] "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God" Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
"No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith...every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are... [Joseph Smith] reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven. Many will exclaim"Oh, that is very disagreeable! It is preposterous! We cannot bear the thought!" But it is true." Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p.289-91
"He that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is anti-christ" Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p.312
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation," Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgressionif you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again." Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a God, and also upon Brigham Young, our Governor Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 5, p. 88
"It is to be feared that in course of a century, some gifted man like Paul, some splendid orator, who will be able by his eloquence to attract crowds of the thousands who are ever ready to hear, and be carried away by, the sounding brass and tinkling cymbal of sparkling oratory, may command a hearing, may succeed in breathing a new life into this modern Mahometanism, and make the name of the martyred Joseph ring as loud, and stir the souls of men as much, as the mighty name of Christ itself. Sharon, Palmyra, Manchester, Kirtland, Far West, Adam-ondi-Ahman, Ramus. Nauvoo, and the Carthage Jail, may become holy and venerable names, places of classic interest, in another age; like Jerusalem, the Garden of Gethsemane, the Mount of Olives, and Mount Calvary to the Christian, and Mecca and Medina to the Turk." Brigham Young, History of the Church, Vol. 7, p.40-41
From the article: "You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a God, and also upon Brigham Young, our Governor Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 5, p. 88
From the article: "Whosoever... does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist...," Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 176
Y'all (non-Mormons) didn't know that Mormons think you are of the "anti-Christ," did you? All because you fail to "confess Joseph Smith."
And here I thought the Bible emphasized confessing Jesus Christ!!!!
From the article: [There is] "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God" Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
Joseph Fielding Smith was the 10th "prophet" of the Mormon church...He says "no salvation" -- "no kingdom of God" for you...unless you "accept Joseph Smith."
Obviously Smith is the "the way, the truth, and the life" for the Mormon church:
The cousin of Mitt Romney's father, George -- Marion Romney -- was one of three highest ranking Mormons as a member of the LDS First Presidency. Marion Romney said half a century ago: "This Church is the ensign on the mountain spoken of by the Old Testament prophets. It is the way, the truth, and the life" (Conference Report, April, 1961, pg. 119).
No, Marion Romney. There is NO substitute for Christ! Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)
Still...Mormons place people like Brigham Young on a high platform by naming their most prominent university after him...And Young claimed that Joseph Smith's "consent" is needed to live forever with Heavenly Father...all because Young regarded Joseph Smith "as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven":
From the article: "No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith...every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are... [Joseph Smith] reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven. Many will exclaim"Oh, that is very disagreeable! It is preposterous! We cannot bear the thought!" But it is true." Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p.289-91
Dont believe me that this doesnt practically carry itself out?
Then read these posted articles:
* Dealing with Smithmas [Mormon worship of Joseph Smith]
* Joseph Smith: a witness of Christ [O Come, O Come EmmanSMITHuel, anyone?]
* 'Praise to the Man' honors Joseph Smith [Mormon Merry Smithmas!]
* Joseph Smith: Blessed Be His Name [Mormon Merry Smithmas]
* Praise To The Man: A Review Of The Annual Joseph Smith Memorial Sermons [Mormon Merry Smithmas]
* Joseph Smith Jr.Prophet of God, Mighty Servant
* Tis the season for Smithmas; Whom do you worship? [Mormon Merry Smithmas]
Do they have the angel Moroni on top of their Christmas tree?
All false religion rots the soul.
Thanks for the post.
“I boast that no man ever did such a work as I.”
This guy is such a stud. Maybe he should do an endzone dance.
Congrats to the “prophet” for getting it exactly wrong.
My hope is that lds and its defenders read the words of lds leaders and their founders to learn, see and take to heart what they are following and defending.
I am mind blown that lds can defend this belief system, and deny that these words have been spoken by those very leaders.
It appears on FR that lds members and defender will deny the words that are right on their computer screens and scream they are not true......even though they are documented, linked to original sources all from lds informational sites.
Are these recent posting about Joseph Smith, Jr., for real???? I hope they’re sarcastic posting about this stone reading, embezzling, polygamist, pedophiliac, phony prophet.
If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex- monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to remarry.
If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.
If you are a Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England founded by Samuel Seabury in the American colonies in the 17th century.
If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.
If you are a Methodist, your religion was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.
If you are a Unitarian, Theophilus Lindley founded your church in London in 1774.
If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, N.Y., in 1829.
If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1605.
If you are of the Dutch Reformed church, you recognize Michaelis Jones as founder, because he originated your religion in New York in 1628.
If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.
If you are a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as 'Church of the Nazarene," "Pentecostal Gospel." "Holiness Church," "Pilgrim Holiness Church," "Jehovah's Witnesses," your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past century.
If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.
Most of these quotes were from the 19th century. Joseph Fielding Smith and Bruce McConkie are from the 20th century. Yes. Real comments. Real Mormon general authorities. Most of them either by Lds "prophets" or "apostles."
Wow, that makes Joseph Smith almost as big as The Beatles!
It's like saying if you're a patriarch of a family, it was jumpstarted by you.
But we ALL -- patriarch or not -- go back to Noah and his wife. And before that, back to Adam and Eve.
You have therefore cited something that arbitrarily draws a line in the sand.
What? Did your family start with you, thesaleboat? You had no father or mother? You were some immaculate conception who arrived suddenly on the scene? No heritage?
Look at Martin Luther's history, for example. He didn't name any church after himself. [That was done externally]
Luther considered himself to be part and parcel of the historic church. He was there to REFORM the church; not 100% knock it down and start from scratch.
You have flunked church history.
You fail at history.
I guess I should avoid these religious threads...
He formed the Eastern Roman Empire which led to the Eastern Orthodox Church. I don't see Orthodox anywhere on your list. You only start with Martin Luther!
Take a look in the mirror and you will see BIGOT!!!
How Old Is Your Church?And if you are a CHRISTIAN - one who has accepted Christ's Gospel of Grace, regardless of which local fellowship you worship with - you belong to the ONE TRUE CHURCH, purposed in the heart of God before time began!
If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex- monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.
Look at what Smith got up to:
Taking other men's wives and daughters into his own harem.
Boozing and drugging himself up while keeping the riff raff teetotal.
Removing 10% of their income and using it for his own.
Living the high life while others subsistance farmed.
Getting people periodically to uproot and move you and themselves when you got yourself into trouble.
Moammar Ghadaafi could only dream about Smith's accomplishments. Smith's people never turned on him at the end, either.
Founded by Christ and commissioned by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Funny how the Bible Believers (tm) don't seem to believe that...
If you are a Christian, you know that your religion was founded when God created the heaven and the earth.
This was very simplistic and very wrong. The ROMAN Catholic church of today is VERY DIFFERENT from the Roman Catholic church of the time of the reformation. Martin Luther did not start a new religion. He didn’t want to cause a division within the church. He simply wanted the established church of his day to get back to the faith of the New Testament as taught by Jesus and the Apostles.
Martin Luther lead the reformation in order to RECLAIM that faith.
If you think everything was hunky dory with the Roman Catholic church, then you need to read why how the Jesuits got started in order to train a large number of clergy who couldn’t even read the Bible from which they could not teach. Simultaneously, they were burning people at the stake for distributing copies of Bibles to common folk.
Adam and Eve fell. (Not much of a "hurrah" there, eh?)
By parallel, the Catholic church badly disgraced (history of pre-16th century popes; selling of indulgences; etc....not much of a "hurrah" there, either, eh?)
...the only real church is the Catholic Church...
Before there was the "Roman Catholic" church (capital "C"), it inherited the church from the "catholic" church (small "c"). All "catholic" means is "universal." The "genuine article" wasn't the "Roman Catholic" church; yet God saw fit to put up with the foibles of that church...It was "the church of the dark ages," after all...which has both a positive and negative connotation.
It's "positive" in that despite it being a trying time with the advancement of Islam, the church rose up to defeat it. Lack of light...the knowledge of our Lord...was prevalent in that dark time...and yet the church still "survived." And monasteries -- especially those developed by St. Patrick and those enclaves he helped to jumpstart...helped to preserve much of what we have in church history, etc.
It's "negative" for some of the same exact reasons: In a time when the church was under tremendous attack, monasteries were great preservations/sanctuaries of light...and when that attack began to relent, an over-abundance of remnant & newly created monasteries meant for a grand retreat from missionary and public ministry.
Hence, the church of the "dark ages" doesn't have much to promote pride-wise. (Their candle wattage wasn't exactly overwhelming in cultural impact)
...and if you are a Jew, your religion is a couple of thousand years older than THAT.
Good one! :-)
Good post! Of course the haters don’t think so but too bad for them.
It’s obvious both sides of the pew drink Haterade®. It would be difficult (but not impossible) to find a church as arrogant and boastful as the Catholic Church. The Rock the Real Church is founded upon is The Rock of Ages - Jesus Christ not any man. Does your pope wander the cities alone with just a staff and clothing preaching the Gospel and healing the sick? There is no “succession” of Apostles. They started the movement and it is up to us to keep it going. Jesus was a Jew not a Catholic, Mormon or LDS.
Yes, the Jesuits historically were the most bigoted, persecuting anti-Christians there were of that time.
The founder of Christianity is Yaweh, in the person of Yeshua. No one except yourself can pray you in, pray you out, or in any way approach G_d except through the Holy Spirit placed in each believer, when he or she confesses their sins to G_d, and accepts the salvation offered through Yeshua sacrifice. The Church is the body of Christ, the believers, not a building, nor an organization whatever it may call itself.
I know when my belief was formed - the day Christ was born. I am a member of the Body of Christ, not a man organized group.
That is correct. That is what the Bible teaches.
True words, no doubt.....
You get an A+ on your theology exam.
What thesaleboat (and Catholics in general) fails to recognize is that these new orthodox denominations (Lutherians, Presbyterians, Baptists, Anglicans, etc.) didn't create from whole cloth but built on the foundation of the earlier church. This foundation is not the exclusive property of the Catholics and we Chrisitains should never surrender it to them. The Church of Acts is our church, too. And since, Martin Luther and other squeezed out the earlier corruption, our version is a purer form of that church than the RCC.
Yup. That's Catholic doctrine and mindset.
Ping to post 26
""""" You can say that again, it is SATANIC BLASPHEMY in their own words, this will not go unpunished. If there are any Mormans here, you BEST BE WARNED of your satanic cult's teachings. How did you allow yourselves to be so deceived???
You can only serve one master, and Smith ain't the one. If he had not invented this cult, he would have sold SNAKE OIL, maybe he did and developed that trade to his highest ego. BLASPHEMY.
He was a glass looker (preceding the Urim and Thimmims and the magic hat), and was convicted of fraud.
All I know is I am allowed to HATE SATAN, and his name was Joseph Smith, for a spell. Charlatan, deceiver, hate filled, woman hater, thief, murderer, self rightous egomaniac who has led many souls to hell with him.
Young regarded Joseph Smith “as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as god does in heaven”:
Well after all Joey Smith showed his buddies a sure and easy way to get all the young girls they wanted...
"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."---Joseph Knight's journal.
"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.
"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.
In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:
"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."
"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)
In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:"When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12June 15, 1879, pp. 190-91.)
Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"("A New Witness for Christ in America,"Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)
"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.
A lot sure did in the middle!
Here is one...
A scribe to Joseph Smith Jr., for some time, in late 1838 Phelps was one of several who bore witness against Smith and other leaders, aiding in their imprisonment in Missouri until April 1839. In June 1840, Phelps plead for forgiveness in a letter to Smith. Smith replied with an offer of full fellowship, and ended with the famous couplet, "'Come on, dear brother, since the war is past, For friends at first are friends again at last.'"
It was decided that Phelps, along with Frederick G. Williams, could be ordained as elders and serve missions abroad. Phelps served a brief mission in the eastern United States in 1841. Phelps moved to Nauvoo, Illinois where on August 27, 1841, he replaced Robert B. Thompson (who had died) as Joseph Smith's clerk. Beginning in February 1843, Phelps became the ghostwriter of many of Smith's important written works of the Nauvoo period, including General Joseph Smith's Appeal to the Green Mountain Boys of November 1843, Smith's theodemocratic presidential platform of January 1844, and The Voice of Innocence which was presented to and unanimously approved by the Relief Society in February 1844 to rebut claims of polygamy in Nauvoo arising out of Orsimus Bostwick's lawsuit accusing Hyrum Smith of polygamy and other sexual misconduct with the women of Nauvoo.
Phelps was endowed on December 9, 1843, received his "second anointing" promising him godhood on February 2, 1844, and was also made a member of the Council of Fifty. In Nauvoo, Phelps spoke out in favor of the destruction of an opposition newspaper, the Nauvoo Expositor. He believed that the city charter gave the church leaders power to declare the newspaper a nuisance. Shortly afterwards, the press and type were carried into the street and destroyed. Phelps was summoned to be tried for treason with Joseph Smith at Carthage, Illinois.
During the Mormon Succession Crisis in 1844, Phelps sided with Brigham Young and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. He was again excommunicated on December 9, 1848 for entering into an unauthorized polygamous marriage, but was rebaptized two days later. He took part in the Mormon Exodus across the Great Plains and settled in Salt Lake City in 1849. He served a mission in southern Utah Territory (as counselor to Parley P. Pratt) from November 1849 to February 1850. There he served in the Utah territorial legislature and on the board of regents for the University of Deseret (now the University of Utah). Phelps died on March 7, 1872 in Salt Lake City, Utah Territory. He was buried at Salt Lake City Cemetery.
It's GOOD to be the King!
Noahides gotcha ALL beat!!
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
1. Im Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you dont!
2. Im Superior; I have Gods true priesthood power -- you dont!
3. Im Superior; I can go in Gods secret Temple -- you cant!
4. Im Superior; Ive been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- youre just normal!
5. Im Superior; Ill have my family with me in heaven -- youll be with strangers!
6. Im Superior; Im becoming a God -- you arent!
7. Im Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours dont.
8. Im Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
9. Im Superior; I dont HAVE a creed - Ive got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. Im Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. -- You cant.
12. Im Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics --
-- Youre a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. Im Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. Im Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you dont.
18. Im Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you dont ;so you cant.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. Im Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably -- Youre on your own; when you get to wherever youre going!
21. Im Superior; Im going to hie to Kolob -- youre going to who knows where.
22. Im Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you dont.
23. Im Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
-- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. Im Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
26. I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.
Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.
JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?
JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?
JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?
JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!
JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.
JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!
JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.
JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.
JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?
JOSEPH SMITH: This? At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven (Matthew 22:30)
JESUS: That's it.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: Nah - it was right.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.
JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.
JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!
JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?
JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....
JESUS: What did you say?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.
JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.
JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?
JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!
JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: No; it wasn't.
JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?
JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?
JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.
JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.
JOSEPH SMITH: But....
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;
and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,
and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)
Speaking of SPHERES...
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I love these Morman threads, I have learned so much more that I already knew. Thanks for your work. NOW?
this statement: " "The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods." ---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834."""
The key word there "PRETENDED", sounds like Emma's dad was not to sold on his son in law. Thoughts on that?
Guess a divining rod would not suffice??? rofl Smith could have said "This divineing rod, is the inspired rod of G.. and created for Me from Abrahams Staff.""""
That would have sold to the ignorant just as easily, lol.
Oh but you are wrong there, we do not hate the people of the LDS, we HATE AND DESPISE the origin of it and the leaders who continue to perpetrate the lies.
It is the duty of all Christians to enlighten the lost souls, there is only one path and that is through Jesus Christ ALONE. Do you not remember his last words? "It is finished", there is no more, HE alone paid the price for our sins, nailed them to the cross. HE has no needs for any false surrogates, (aka Joseph Smith), to assist HIM.
The messages here are just "A WARNING against false teachers", you choice to ignore all these written facts that ELSIE is posting, is just that Your Choice and be damned.