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Calvinism's Similarities to Islam
http://www.freewill-predestination.com/islam.html ^ | David Bennett

Posted on 12/12/2011 5:00:12 PM PST by rzman21

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To: narses; HossB86
How many Gods do you believe exist?

There are many gods...

Catholics and Islam do have the same god... so you infer the truth for you

61 posted on 12/12/2011 6:52:23 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Chainmail

The poster put forth that Catholics identify with Islam more than Protetantism, then highlights (bolds) a passage saying Muslims are “first.”

That’s misleading because this section describing the Catholic relationship with other believers follows sections specifically addressing the Orthodox and Protestant and Jewish positions.

To read this, as the original poster did is ignorance. But when one goes to Catholic bashing sites for information, that is to be expected.


62 posted on 12/12/2011 6:52:29 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Winstons Julia
Next thing to happen will be to see your comment removed by the mod. Mod must be Orthodox.

Religion Mod's not Orthodox. Trust me.

63 posted on 12/12/2011 6:52:53 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

I made a (fairly harmless) comment about who keeps posting this “so and so is like Islam” stuff...

Someone said “poster is Orthodox” ... those got removed as well as my third comment ... which must have offended the poster.

I’ll message you that one.

Anyhoo ... you know it’s the Christmas season when FReepers are posting “my Christ’s better than YOUR Christ” threads, eh?


64 posted on 12/12/2011 6:55:10 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: muawiyah

Really? There are no theological differences between the Catholic conception of God and Protestant conceptions of God? Really?

Care to answer the question now? Sorry to confuse you by narrowing the argument down to one single Protestant conception of God.

You may continue now explaining how all Catholics and all of the varying Protestant sects have no theological conceptual differences in how they view God.


65 posted on 12/12/2011 6:56:15 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Alex Murphy

Doesn’t really matter ... I’m not Catholic, so apparently I’m going to Hell anyway. I hear the mods THERE are killer.


66 posted on 12/12/2011 6:57:38 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Winstons Julia

I deduced that you weren’t from your post. That’s why I said the truth hurts sometimes. The dog that is struck is the one who yelps.


67 posted on 12/12/2011 6:57:58 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Winstons Julia
We had a Calvinist in our church once ~ his name was "The Reverend Jim Jones". He ended up murdering his congregation in Guiana.

Fortunately we bounced him out of Indianapolis and he went to San Francisco where there were many of his kind around ~ to be misled, or not, as he would desire.

The Reverend Jim reinforces the basic Christian Church movement belief that a strong hierarchy, or a Deacon above the other Deacons may not be what you need to preserve the church.

The early Calvinist leaders would have been better off maintaining their positions as teachers and plate passers and simply dispensed with higher orders of church organization.

BTW, the Christian Church movement has always sought to recreate the Second Century Christian experience and system of beliefs. Outside of the hierarchy ideas, it ends up paralleling both the core of Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy to the point where it's "stodgy".

Some Protestants probably deviate from that core to their own distress.

68 posted on 12/12/2011 6:59:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SoothingDave
To read this, as the original poster did is ignorance. But when one goes to Catholic bashing sites for information, that is to be expected.

Look, dude... your beef is with your catechism, not me. I merely highlighted what was already written.

Take it to your Magisterium, not me. Seems plainly written to me.

Hoss

69 posted on 12/12/2011 6:59:14 PM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: RnMomof7
There are many gods...

And boom! Monotheism is thrown out the window. Good show!

70 posted on 12/12/2011 6:59:35 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

You take joy from striking dogs? I thought the Pope was against that.

You’ve your wonderful path to Heaven ... so you obviously are righteous enough to judge others!

As for me ... well, I’m reminded of something a wise FReeper once typed:

“Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like unto him.”

Merry Christmas!


71 posted on 12/12/2011 7:01:12 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: SoothingDave

You take joy from striking dogs? I thought the Pope was against that.

You’ve your wonderful path to Heaven ... so you obviously are righteous enough to judge others!

As for me ... well, I’m reminded of something a wise FReeper once typed:

“Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like unto him.”

Merry Christmas!


72 posted on 12/12/2011 7:02:08 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: HossB86

If you’re cool with highlighting something out of context to make a point to the ignorant, then that’s your choice. Don’t think you’ve made any points that stand up to scrutiny.


73 posted on 12/12/2011 7:02:09 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

Thanks - much clearer now. Really strange post, in a pretty big day for weird posts.

Just seems to me that we Christians should be looking for greater unity in these days instead of looking for a fight amongst each other.

Funny story: my Great-Grandfather was a resolute and fiercely unreconstructed German Dunker Baptist in Iowa in the 1850s but while I was investigating records I discovered that he, a wealthy man, had donated the tract of land for the Roman Catholic church in town.

Early ecumenism, I guess.


74 posted on 12/12/2011 7:02:23 PM PST by Chainmail
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To: SoothingDave
No sense getting into the issue with you ~ it'll always devolve to a question of church hierarchy and having a bishop in the mix.

Trust me you separate the hierarchy from the religion and the theological standards are virtually identical ~ some linguistic changes about some issues due to various Councils centuries after Jesus and the Disciples ~ but nothing you'd fight a war over.

75 posted on 12/12/2011 7:04:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I was raised Lutheran. I’ve attended different churches. Mostly, I’d just call myself “Christian”.


76 posted on 12/12/2011 7:04:24 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Chainmail

Actually, that was my Great-Great Grandfather...Jacob Samuel Pfautz


77 posted on 12/12/2011 7:05:03 PM PST by Chainmail
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To: Winstons Julia

Whom have I judged? I merely said that others follow an imperfect understanding of God, compared to the full understanding to be found in Catholicism.

Don’t you believe that your beliefs are correct?

Aren’t there fellow Christians that you know of that, nonetheless, have some wrong ideas about God? Would you say they also have a perfect understanding of God?

Either we believe very little is knowable, or we believe that some have more perfect and some have less perfect understandings of God.

Which do you believe? I believe Truth is knowable and some have imperfect understanding of it.


79 posted on 12/12/2011 7:07:05 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Chainmail
Dunker or Dunkard ~ either way, they had a couple of concepts worth thinking about ~ the home as a holy place, and and "community of Christians".

Of course he donated the land for the Catholic church. He was a Christian and so were they. How could it be any other way.

I know of towns in South Dakota where there are so few people around they have traveling priests and ministers for a dozen different communes and they use the same building. Buddy of mine attended one such church as a Roman Catholic. It was decorated pretty much like a Russian Orthodox building, with a very Protestant steeple, and there huge stacks of song books in several languages.

All same thing!

80 posted on 12/12/2011 7:10:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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