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To: allmendream; Agamemnon; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; trisham; spirited irish
Hitler was a Creationist who believed in fixed kinds.

This is a claim you've made throughout this thread, but you haven't actually substantiated it.

Here are the FACTS:

Those who believe in Creation believe that God created man in His Image and after His Likeness. Got it? People who believe in Creation believe that HUMAN BEINGS ARE CREATED BY GOD, IN HIS IMAGE.

Hitler, on the other hand, directed that nearly 10 MILLION HUMAN BEINGS be put to death.

The FACTS simply do not support your undocumented hypothesis.

But, once again, this thread is not and never has been about creationism vs. evolution, it is about DARWINISM and Darwinism's deadly legacy. This is a subject that makes devotees of evolution cringe and go off on all sorts of tangents to avoid discussing.

I do notice that you have completely avoided Margaret Sanger. Do you doubt that she was a Darwinist? Her grim death toll is on a level that dwarfs those of Hitler, Stalin and Mao COMBINED.

Here are a few of her quotes, that you may want to consider:

T"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control."

"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."

"Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems."

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."

Feel free to reply if you can get back on topic.

168 posted on 02/22/2012 9:18:16 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
No? You don't think Hitler's own words substantiate that he believed in fixed kinds and that he was created in God's image?

“A goose will always remain a goose” is pretty clear to any but the deliberately obtuse.

“the highest image of God” is pretty clear to any but the deliberately obtuse.

Did you not read or remember the quotes I provided? Your inability to deal with them doesn't mean they do not exist.

“This urge for the maintenance of the unmixed breed, which is a phenomenon that prevails throughout the whole of the natural world, results not only in the sharply defined outward distinction between one species and another but also in the internal similarity of characteristic qualities which are peculiar to each breed or species. The fox remains always a fox, the goose remains a goose, and the tiger will retain the character of a tiger.” Hitler

“Whoever would dare to raise a profane hand against that highest image of God among His creatures would sin against the bountiful Creator of this marvel and would collaborate in the expulsion from Paradise. ” Hitler

“it was by the Will of God that men were made of a certain bodily shape, were given their natures and their faculties. Whoever destroys His work wages war against God's Creation and God's Will” Hitler

How do you reconcile the lies in this article with the direct quotes from Hitler that show that he believed in fixed kinds and that his race was created by God in the image of God?

169 posted on 02/22/2012 9:24:57 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: wagglebee; allmendream; Agamemnon; metmom; betty boop; trisham; spirited irish
The Hitler quotes you are getting are irrelevant or misleading. One who controls the dictionary controls the debate. For instance, unborn children are obsessively called "fetuses" which dehumanizes them. So a liberal can say "for the children" as long as "children" means to the public what he intends, relegating fetuses to subhuman status.

Consider the philosopher Alfred Rosenberg who inspired the racial attitudes of Nazi Germany. He was anti-Christian and a supporter of Positive Christianity as a step to the ultimate goal of a Reich Church.

Some Nazi leaders, such as Martin Bormann, were anti-Christian and sympathetic to Rosenberg.[34] Once in power, however, Hitler and most Nazi leaders sought to unify the Christian denominations in favor of "positive Christianity." They privately complained about Rosenberg's radical, openly anti-Christian views[citation needed]; they also did not support small neo-pagan groups that were seeking parity with Christianity, which Rosenberg encouraged. However, Goebbels and Hitler both agreed that after the Endsieg (Final Victory) the Reich Church should be pressed into evolving into a German social evolutionist organisation proclaiming the cult of race, blood and battle, instead of Redemption and the Ten Commandments of Moses, which they deemed outdated and Jewish.[35]

Wikipedia on Rosenberg

Positive Christianity (German: Positives Christentum) was a movement within Nazi Germany which blended ideas of racial purity with Christian doctrine. It was adopted as part of the official party doctrine at the NSDAP congress in 1920 to express a worldview which was Christian, non-confessional, vigorously opposed to the spirit of "Jewish Materialism", and oriented to the principle of voluntary association of those with a common racial-ethnic background.[1]

Wikipedia on Positive Christianity

According to Rosenberg's well received and politically convenient philosophy, those who did not have Nordic traits, e.g. Jews and Hungarians, were deemed untermensch following eugenicist Lothrop Stoddard's teaching. The term means "sub human."

They were not killing humans by this philosophy just like abortionists think they are not killing humans.


171 posted on 02/22/2012 10:40:10 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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