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Catholic Priest Admits 14-Year Gay Marriage, Says Forced Celibacy Leads to Abuse
Christian Post Reporter ^ | July 11,2012 | Stoyan Zaimov

Posted on 09/10/2012 8:51:49 PM PDT by count-your-change

Father Bernard Lynch, a homosexual Catholic priest and activist known for defying Vatican teachings, has once again challenged the Roman Catholic Church by revealing that he has been married to a man for the past 14 years. Lynch also blames teachings on celibacy for the child sex abuse cases gripping the Catholic Church.

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; celibacy; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; priests
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Apparently Lynch's homosexual union was tolerated as long as he quiet but with the writing of a book his having a "husband" for 14 years cannot be tolerated any longer...or can it? ,...14 years!
1 posted on 09/10/2012 8:51:56 PM PDT by count-your-change
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To: count-your-change

homosexuality leads to abuse, for sure


2 posted on 09/10/2012 8:55:41 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: count-your-change

it’s nice when you can make up your own rules as you go through life!!!


3 posted on 09/10/2012 8:57:49 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: GeronL

His activities were certainly no secret to anyone. How can anyone claim that the scandal among priests has been “cleaned up” when men like Lynch are allowed to remain.


4 posted on 09/10/2012 9:02:14 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
homosexual Catholic priest

Pardon?
5 posted on 09/10/2012 9:02:14 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: terycarl

That seems to be the point of Lynch’s latest book.


6 posted on 09/10/2012 9:03:48 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

He was not forced into celibacy. He chose it. No one forces you to be an RC priest.


7 posted on 09/10/2012 9:08:16 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: andyk

Pardon? Nope.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 9:09:02 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

This whole thing turns my stomach - but the one thing I agree with him on is that celibacy teachings may be largely responsible for the rampant homosexuality and child abuse. I suspect if priests were allowed (not encouraged, but allowed) to marry, much of this might be avoided. After all, Scripture says that it’s better to marry than to burn.


9 posted on 09/10/2012 9:09:36 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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FYI
this guy lives in London, England.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 9:10:51 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: count-your-change

Ok, I am not Catholic.
However, I do not get the “forced” into celibacy thing this guy is claiming.
No one is forced into celibacy, it is a choice freely given when you enter Catholic ministry as a priest.
You do not wish to be celibate, don’t enter the ministry, its really simple.


11 posted on 09/10/2012 9:15:38 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
Whether he's correct in that view I won't guess but a priesthood that claims celibacy seems to be an attraction to homosexuals as estimates of homosexuals in the seminaries run from 30 to 50%.
12 posted on 09/10/2012 9:15:39 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Most sexual abusers are not celibate. Most sexual abusers are married. Why would celibacy make a heterosexual go after a member of the same sex and much less a child? Do you skip over the Scripture in which Jesus talks about eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven? Do you skip over the Scriptures in which Paul talks about the beauty of virginity and tells one not to take a husband or wife if one doesn’t have one because the time is short, though he does permit marriage?


13 posted on 09/10/2012 9:17:34 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
Factually wrong assumptions to make.

Start with the fact that less than 5% of the Catholic Priesthood was ever involved in the sex abuse scandals.

Then, understand that almost all of the victims were MALES.

Then, understand that almost all of the victims were past the age of puberty.

It was all very wrong, and criminal. However, it was NOT the clinical definition of “pedophilia” since almost all of the victims were post-pubescent males.

Instead, this is mostly a problem of homosexual predators entering the Priesthood.

Not all homosexuals are predators, in fact, few are. Less than 5% of Priests are predators. Almost all of the offenders in these cases were homosexual predators. How does allowing Priests to get married solve that problem?

Of course, it doesn't.

14 posted on 09/10/2012 9:17:50 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Persevero

No, he was not forced into the priesthood nor was he forced to be a homosexual nor is the Catholic church forced to keep him as a priest so one might ask why he is still a priest.


15 posted on 09/10/2012 9:20:01 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GeronL

Wasn’t it Ann Coulter who said something like;
“Gays insist they’re born that way....unless we’re talking about the priest sex scandal! Then they blame celibacy...”


16 posted on 09/10/2012 9:23:31 PM PDT by massmike (The choice is clear in November: Romney or Caligula!)
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To: svcw

Perhaps some never had the intention of remaining celibate but are like the drunk who stays sober just long enough to get a bartender’s job.


17 posted on 09/10/2012 9:24:20 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

He’s from New York.


18 posted on 09/10/2012 9:26:56 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

If you follow this sick ugliness which you cannot avoid with some Freepers posting (Which is there right)about it. The idea of Married men not doing abuse is very wrong. Natural Fathers are higher than priests in abuse percentages. So are Teachers and Coaches. The whole thing is just ugly. I learned most of this by checking the sources of these type of posts. It is disgusting subject but needs to be discussed at times. May God Help these little Ones.


19 posted on 09/10/2012 9:29:00 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: count-your-change

“so one might ask why he is still a priest.”

Indeed, that is indefensible. Once something like this is known I can not fathom why anyone would want to keep them in their clergy.

But I was reacting more to the excuses we so often hear, like someone forced them into celibacy and now they have no choice but to act homosexually, so absurd.


20 posted on 09/10/2012 9:29:25 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: MDLION

Something like 30% of sexual abuse cases involve homosexuals—a group of 2% of the population.

This means homosexuals as a group, clearly have an abuse problem. Does this mean all abuse? No, but if 2% are doing 30% of the abusing, a MUCH higher percentage must be abusers than amidst hetrosexuals.

It would be surprising that for a life that requires celibacy—in our sex-saturated world—an undue number of men struggling with homosexual tendancies wouldn’t want it. You grow up in a religious home—and struggle with same-sex attraction as a teen—and the priesthood would seem to be a good place to go—since you know it’s wrong, and you cannot fulfill your sexual desires...so go and be celibate!

I really don’t see why it’s not self evident that the celibacy requirement is bound to attract more of that 2% than other callings.

If you ask any Roman Catholic scholar who’s studied the percentage of homosexual-oriented priests too—they will tell you it is a LOT more than 2%...


21 posted on 09/10/2012 9:30:17 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: Persevero
Scripturally, a person may choose to remain unmarried, and therefore celibate, for many reasons but if that proves not to be agreeable or they lack the self control such might call for, then marriage is proper.

There is an alternative to fornication.

22 posted on 09/10/2012 9:37:11 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Celibacy leads to abuse? LOL! So instead of sneaking out on the Church and having a nice, quiet hetero fling, celibacy leads one to go abuse children of the same sex.

Yup. Makes sense to me.


23 posted on 09/10/2012 9:43:05 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: count-your-change

I am a Christian, not a Catholic.

Left Catholicism after they wanted $500 to dissolve my marriage after my divorce. So I can’t get married in a Catholic church.

The part about priests not being allowed to marry, because the church didn’t want their assets diluted by offspring, really turned me off too.

Follow the money.

Just because I posted this does not mean I don’t love Jesus. I do. I don’t like my experience with the Catholic church.


24 posted on 09/10/2012 9:44:57 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Obviously Lynch is offering excuses for his own behavior and inclinations. Just as those who do go out and have “a nice, quiet hetero fling”.


25 posted on 09/10/2012 9:52:28 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

The problem, I think, is that many men with a homosexual tendency AND a strong religious feeling sought out the priesthood, either because they wished to escape their homosexuality, or because they felt no call to marriage and thought that they should serve the Church instead.

When they were exposed to a temptation in seminary or later, some succumbed and then justified it to themselves.

IMO it isn’t celibacy as such that is the problem but a poor discernment process, the bishops being unwilling to take action that reduce the number of men entering the priesthood, and a degree of outright corruption.

A priest once told a friend of mine, speaking of the days when boys entered seminary in their teens, “At that age you are programmed to fall in love.”


26 posted on 09/10/2012 9:58:30 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: bicyclerepair
Well the whole notion of having a human priesthood in the Christian church is totally UN-Christian as is charging a fee for services like marriages, etc.

What we're seeing is the rotten fruit of that tree.

27 posted on 09/10/2012 10:00:47 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: MDLION
Most sexual abusers are married.

I don't believe that, I would like to see those statistics that prove that most sexual abusers as "married", and married does not mean people shacking up and drifting in and out of hook up relationships.

28 posted on 09/10/2012 10:10:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Thank You. No kidding. As a ‘82 graduate of Detroit Catholic Central I can at-est to the great men-Priests that were my teachers, and role models. These Men were all past military, boxers, atheletes, and learned men. There was not even a hint of Homo in any of them. Coincedentaly Thad McCotter graduated a year after me. I drank, and partied with some at Friday night football games. The knowledge they imparted to me stays with me to this day. Teach me Goodness, Dicipline, and Knowledge. Worked for me. By the way McCotter is a Rino. Good riddance.

MCB.

29 posted on 09/10/2012 10:16:53 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
but the one thing I agree with him on is that celibacy teachings may be largely responsible for the rampant homosexuality and child abuse. I suspect if priests were allowed (not encouraged, but allowed) to marry, much of this might be avoided.

That makes zero sense.

If a Priest needed to have sex, then he could pursue women like any other cheating man, change clothes and hit the clubs across town, or buy a hooker, or if you were really low, submit to one of the many females that come on to the collar.

30 posted on 09/10/2012 10:18:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: count-your-change; All
If celibacy was too much for him, he was in the wrong vocation.

Aside from that, in Catholic teaching, homosexuals are called to live chaste lives. He's clearly not.

On top of that he's a "married" priest which is only acceptable if a priest has come from a Christian sect that accepts married clergy like Episcopalians.

31 posted on 09/10/2012 10:31:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 57 days away.)
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To: count-your-change

Homosexuality is the problem here, not the vow of celibacy.


32 posted on 09/10/2012 10:40:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: AnalogReigns

I don’t dispute the large percentage of homosexual abusers. And the priests abusing in the Catholic Church were almost entirely homosexual. I dispute Fast Moving Angel’s assertion that celibacy is causing this behavior. I have had to live a chaste life for decades as a single person. Such a life doesn’t tempt me in the slightest to become a homosexual or much less commit crimes.


33 posted on 09/10/2012 10:40:39 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: count-your-change

Gay bastards abuse boys. That is correct.


34 posted on 09/10/2012 10:50:52 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: ansel12

I should have said that married men are just as likely to be abusers as unmarried men.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/facts/fm0011.html
http://www.moralhealth.com/2011/12/profilechildsexualabuser


35 posted on 09/10/2012 10:56:34 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: count-your-change
If celibacy is the problem, then why do non-Catholic clergy numbers exceed those of the priesthood????



36 posted on 09/10/2012 10:56:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: svcw; count-your-change
However, I do not get the “forced” into celibacy thing this guy is claiming. No one is forced into celibacy, it is a choice freely given when you enter Catholic ministry as a priest. You do not wish to be celibate, don’t enter the ministry, its really simple.

I agree. This guy knew all along what would be required of him if he chose to be a Catholic priest. For someone who is in a homosexual "relationship" and supposedly "married" for 14 years, even IF heterosexual marriage of priests were allowed, he would STILL choose being a homosexual. It's really a straw man. The Catholic priesthood has for over a thousand years been a refuge for many homosexuals who wanted to escape societal norms that expected a man to be married and raise a family. Read St. Peter Damian's Book of Gomorrah sometime. It has been an ongoing embarrassment for the Roman Catholic Church.

37 posted on 09/10/2012 10:58:16 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: count-your-change

Too often, problem teachers are allowed to leave quietly. That can mean future abuse for another student and another school district.

“They might deal with it internally, suspending the person or having the person move on. So their license is never investigated,” says Charol Shakeshaft, a leading expert in teacher sex abuse who heads the educational leadership department at Virginia Commonwealth University.

It’s a dynamic so common it has its own nicknames—“passing the trash” or the “mobile molester.”

Laws in several states require that even an allegation of sexual misconduct be reported to the state departments that oversee teacher licenses. But there’s no consistent enforcement, so such laws are easy to ignore.

School officials fear public embarrassment as much as the perpetrators do, Shakeshaft says. They want to avoid the fallout from going up against a popular teacher. They also don’t want to get sued by teachers or victims, and they don’t want to face a challenge from a strong union.



38 posted on 09/10/2012 10:59:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: count-your-change

This is not a “marriage” as we are led to believe. This “marriage” taken to its logical consequence will mean the end of the human race in one generation. If it is good for “them,” it is good for “everyone.” Ha Ha, what a joke, a deadly and pernicious joke.


39 posted on 09/10/2012 11:00:23 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Salvation
How many teacher perverts call themselves Father, as in GOD the Father?
40 posted on 09/10/2012 11:01:13 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Salvation

There are millions, and millions of teachers, they are just regular Joe’s, Buddhists, Catholics Methodists, atheists, Satan worshipers, lesbians, just a hodge podge of millions of working people.

There are 39,000 handpicked and Catholic trained Priests, “Father” to as many as a million of those teachers.


41 posted on 09/10/2012 11:11:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
Having married presbyters/priests WAS allowed in the early Christian churches. Peter was certainly married as were probably the rest of the Apostles. Even today, the vast majority (90%) of Orthodox priests ARE married. Clerical celibacy was not even considered a general tradition or practice much less an ordinance before the start of the fourth century. Some of the history is explained HERE. Who knows, maybe in our lifetime we might see the Roman Catholic Church change its practice on this, but one thing is for sure, clerical celibacy was NOT an Apostolic tradition.
42 posted on 09/10/2012 11:16:08 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: MDLION
I should have said that married men are just as likely to be abusers as unmarried men.

I'm not buying it I want to see the statistics about "married" men, not cohabitating or men in relationships.

Your second source is useless, and this is what your first source says, which is different from you statement.

"In fact, married men are just as likely as celibate priests to sexually abuse children"

43 posted on 09/10/2012 11:17:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

Don’t minimize the pain and suffering caused by abusers who don’t happen to be Catholic priests.


44 posted on 09/10/2012 11:22:39 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: ansel12; MDLION

The most probable pedophiles in order are:

Fathers
Teachers
Coaches
Protestant ministers

Priests are way down on the list.

So if a father is a teacher of mid-high history, coaches the girl’s basketball team and is a youth minister at his church on weekends/Sundays — watch out! He would be much more prone to pedophilia that any priest.

___________________________________________________________

Sexual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers

Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year

Abuse by Protestant Ministers of Every Denomination

Child Sexual Molestation by Various Protestant Clergy

Baptist Predators website

"Yeshiva" of Brooklyn also Guilty of Child Abuse

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Sex Abuse by Teachers Said Worse Than Catholic Church

WHEN BOYS ARE MOLESTED BY TEACHERS AND OTHERS IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY

OPS (Omaha Public Schools) didn't report abuse allegations

ANOTHER two Texas teachers arrested for having sex with their students

Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests

 


45 posted on 09/10/2012 11:30:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Just mythoughts

They still know they are committing a sin and going against God. Empty excuses don’t work in the cases of pedophilia.


46 posted on 09/10/2012 11:32:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MDLION

LOL, asking you to show the data to justify your attacks on marriage is not doing anything of the sort.

You can defend Priests without joining the left in a dishonest attack on marriage by refusing to separate fathers and husbands, from live in boyfriends and hookups.


47 posted on 09/10/2012 11:33:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: Salvation

I don’t believe the claim about fathers because I don’t think they really mean the actual fathers, teachers number in the many millions and it is weird to compare them to Priests, which you seem obsessed with doing.

Which denomination of Protestant? Catholic is just a single denomination of 39,000 Priests.


48 posted on 09/10/2012 11:38:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

Check the links.


49 posted on 09/10/2012 11:39:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

It is a strange crusade.

Some people are dedicated to soiling the image of all Christian leadership.

It strikes me as odd that people want to burn down the house, and fill the internet with every sordid anti-Christian link that can be found, but we do see it done by a couple of people here.


50 posted on 09/10/2012 11:45:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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