Posted on 09/10/2012 8:51:49 PM PDT by count-your-change
Father Bernard Lynch, a homosexual Catholic priest and activist known for defying Vatican teachings, has once again challenged the Roman Catholic Church by revealing that he has been married to a man for the past 14 years. Lynch also blames teachings on celibacy for the child sex abuse cases gripping the Catholic Church.
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homosexuality leads to abuse, for sure
it’s nice when you can make up your own rules as you go through life!!!
His activities were certainly no secret to anyone. How can anyone claim that the scandal among priests has been “cleaned up” when men like Lynch are allowed to remain.
That seems to be the point of Lynch’s latest book.
He was not forced into celibacy. He chose it. No one forces you to be an RC priest.
Pardon? Nope.
This whole thing turns my stomach - but the one thing I agree with him on is that celibacy teachings may be largely responsible for the rampant homosexuality and child abuse. I suspect if priests were allowed (not encouraged, but allowed) to marry, much of this might be avoided. After all, Scripture says that it’s better to marry than to burn.
FYI
this guy lives in London, England.
Ok, I am not Catholic.
However, I do not get the “forced” into celibacy thing this guy is claiming.
No one is forced into celibacy, it is a choice freely given when you enter Catholic ministry as a priest.
You do not wish to be celibate, don’t enter the ministry, its really simple.
Most sexual abusers are not celibate. Most sexual abusers are married. Why would celibacy make a heterosexual go after a member of the same sex and much less a child? Do you skip over the Scripture in which Jesus talks about eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven? Do you skip over the Scriptures in which Paul talks about the beauty of virginity and tells one not to take a husband or wife if one doesn’t have one because the time is short, though he does permit marriage?
Start with the fact that less than 5% of the Catholic Priesthood was ever involved in the sex abuse scandals.
Then, understand that almost all of the victims were MALES.
Then, understand that almost all of the victims were past the age of puberty.
It was all very wrong, and criminal. However, it was NOT the clinical definition of “pedophilia” since almost all of the victims were post-pubescent males.
Instead, this is mostly a problem of homosexual predators entering the Priesthood.
Not all homosexuals are predators, in fact, few are. Less than 5% of Priests are predators. Almost all of the offenders in these cases were homosexual predators. How does allowing Priests to get married solve that problem?
Of course, it doesn't.
No, he was not forced into the priesthood nor was he forced to be a homosexual nor is the Catholic church forced to keep him as a priest so one might ask why he is still a priest.
Wasn’t it Ann Coulter who said something like;
“Gays insist they’re born that way....unless we’re talking about the priest sex scandal! Then they blame celibacy...”
Perhaps some never had the intention of remaining celibate but are like the drunk who stays sober just long enough to get a bartender’s job.
He’s from New York.
If you follow this sick ugliness which you cannot avoid with some Freepers posting (Which is there right)about it. The idea of Married men not doing abuse is very wrong. Natural Fathers are higher than priests in abuse percentages. So are Teachers and Coaches. The whole thing is just ugly. I learned most of this by checking the sources of these type of posts. It is disgusting subject but needs to be discussed at times. May God Help these little Ones.
“so one might ask why he is still a priest.”
Indeed, that is indefensible. Once something like this is known I can not fathom why anyone would want to keep them in their clergy.
But I was reacting more to the excuses we so often hear, like someone forced them into celibacy and now they have no choice but to act homosexually, so absurd.
Something like 30% of sexual abuse cases involve homosexuals—a group of 2% of the population.
This means homosexuals as a group, clearly have an abuse problem. Does this mean all abuse? No, but if 2% are doing 30% of the abusing, a MUCH higher percentage must be abusers than amidst hetrosexuals.
It would be surprising that for a life that requires celibacy—in our sex-saturated world—an undue number of men struggling with homosexual tendancies wouldn’t want it. You grow up in a religious home—and struggle with same-sex attraction as a teen—and the priesthood would seem to be a good place to go—since you know it’s wrong, and you cannot fulfill your sexual desires...so go and be celibate!
I really don’t see why it’s not self evident that the celibacy requirement is bound to attract more of that 2% than other callings.
If you ask any Roman Catholic scholar who’s studied the percentage of homosexual-oriented priests too—they will tell you it is a LOT more than 2%...
There is an alternative to fornication.
Celibacy leads to abuse? LOL! So instead of sneaking out on the Church and having a nice, quiet hetero fling, celibacy leads one to go abuse children of the same sex.
Yup. Makes sense to me.
I am a Christian, not a Catholic.
Left Catholicism after they wanted $500 to dissolve my marriage after my divorce. So I can’t get married in a Catholic church.
The part about priests not being allowed to marry, because the church didn’t want their assets diluted by offspring, really turned me off too.
Follow the money.
Just because I posted this does not mean I don’t love Jesus. I do. I don’t like my experience with the Catholic church.
Obviously Lynch is offering excuses for his own behavior and inclinations. Just as those who do go out and have “a nice, quiet hetero fling”.
The problem, I think, is that many men with a homosexual tendency AND a strong religious feeling sought out the priesthood, either because they wished to escape their homosexuality, or because they felt no call to marriage and thought that they should serve the Church instead.
When they were exposed to a temptation in seminary or later, some succumbed and then justified it to themselves.
IMO it isn’t celibacy as such that is the problem but a poor discernment process, the bishops being unwilling to take action that reduce the number of men entering the priesthood, and a degree of outright corruption.
A priest once told a friend of mine, speaking of the days when boys entered seminary in their teens, “At that age you are programmed to fall in love.”
What we're seeing is the rotten fruit of that tree.
I don't believe that, I would like to see those statistics that prove that most sexual abusers as "married", and married does not mean people shacking up and drifting in and out of hook up relationships.
MCB.
That makes zero sense.
If a Priest needed to have sex, then he could pursue women like any other cheating man, change clothes and hit the clubs across town, or buy a hooker, or if you were really low, submit to one of the many females that come on to the collar.
Aside from that, in Catholic teaching, homosexuals are called to live chaste lives. He's clearly not.
On top of that he's a "married" priest which is only acceptable if a priest has come from a Christian sect that accepts married clergy like Episcopalians.
Homosexuality is the problem here, not the vow of celibacy.
I don’t dispute the large percentage of homosexual abusers. And the priests abusing in the Catholic Church were almost entirely homosexual. I dispute Fast Moving Angel’s assertion that celibacy is causing this behavior. I have had to live a chaste life for decades as a single person. Such a life doesn’t tempt me in the slightest to become a homosexual or much less commit crimes.
Gay bastards abuse boys. That is correct.
I should have said that married men are just as likely to be abusers as unmarried men.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/facts/fm0011.html
http://www.moralhealth.com/2011/12/profilechildsexualabuser
I agree. This guy knew all along what would be required of him if he chose to be a Catholic priest. For someone who is in a homosexual "relationship" and supposedly "married" for 14 years, even IF heterosexual marriage of priests were allowed, he would STILL choose being a homosexual. It's really a straw man. The Catholic priesthood has for over a thousand years been a refuge for many homosexuals who wanted to escape societal norms that expected a man to be married and raise a family. Read St. Peter Damian's Book of Gomorrah sometime. It has been an ongoing embarrassment for the Roman Catholic Church.
Too often, problem teachers are allowed to leave quietly. That can mean future abuse for another student and another school district.It’s a dynamic so common it has its own nicknames—“passing the trash” or the “mobile molester.”
This is not a “marriage” as we are led to believe. This “marriage” taken to its logical consequence will mean the end of the human race in one generation. If it is good for “them,” it is good for “everyone.” Ha Ha, what a joke, a deadly and pernicious joke.
There are millions, and millions of teachers, they are just regular Joe’s, Buddhists, Catholics Methodists, atheists, Satan worshipers, lesbians, just a hodge podge of millions of working people.
There are 39,000 handpicked and Catholic trained Priests, “Father” to as many as a million of those teachers.
I'm not buying it I want to see the statistics about "married" men, not cohabitating or men in relationships.
Your second source is useless, and this is what your first source says, which is different from you statement.
"In fact, married men are just as likely as celibate priests to sexually abuse children"
Don’t minimize the pain and suffering caused by abusers who don’t happen to be Catholic priests.
The most probable pedophiles in order are:
Fathers
Teachers
Coaches
Protestant ministers
Priests are way down on the list.
So if a father is a teacher of mid-high history, coaches the girl’s basketball team and is a youth minister at his church on weekends/Sundays — watch out! He would be much more prone to pedophilia that any priest.
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Sexual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers
Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year
Abuse by Protestant Ministers of Every Denomination
Child Sexual Molestation by Various Protestant Clergy
"Yeshiva" of Brooklyn also Guilty of Child Abuse
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Teachers and Pedophilia - In YOUR Backyard
Washington Post -- D.C. school officials reported 220 abuse allegations against teachers
Sex Abuse by Teachers Said Worse Than Catholic Church
WHEN BOYS ARE MOLESTED BY TEACHERS AND OTHERS IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY
OPS (Omaha Public Schools) didn't report abuse allegations
ANOTHER two Texas teachers arrested for having sex with their students
Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests
They still know they are committing a sin and going against God. Empty excuses don’t work in the cases of pedophilia.
LOL, asking you to show the data to justify your attacks on marriage is not doing anything of the sort.
You can defend Priests without joining the left in a dishonest attack on marriage by refusing to separate fathers and husbands, from live in boyfriends and hookups.
I don’t believe the claim about fathers because I don’t think they really mean the actual fathers, teachers number in the many millions and it is weird to compare them to Priests, which you seem obsessed with doing.
Which denomination of Protestant? Catholic is just a single denomination of 39,000 Priests.
Check the links.
It is a strange crusade.
Some people are dedicated to soiling the image of all Christian leadership.
It strikes me as odd that people want to burn down the house, and fill the internet with every sordid anti-Christian link that can be found, but we do see it done by a couple of people here.
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