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Bene Israel hail DNA result {Indian Jewish history dating back 2000 years}
Times of India ^ | July 22, 2002 | Manjiri Damie

Posted on 10/04/2012 11:14:35 PM PDT by Cronos

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"When Indian Jews go to Israel, they have to face extensive enquiry. They ask us about our ancestors, family members and we even have to furnish photographs of the graves of our ancestors. Then they cross check the information given by us," he said.

"I often wondered why only Indian Jews were treated in such a manner," he said hoping that the report about the DNA tests will remove all doubts once and for all.

The Bene Israelis are descendants of emigrants from Israel from the 2nd century BC. This would be sailors moving along a well-established sea route to the area south of Bombay

And they stayed there for 2000+ years.


1 posted on 10/04/2012 11:14:41 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*; not necessarily for the list(s), but you’ll probably be interested.


2 posted on 10/04/2012 11:29:48 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Cronos
Hmmm....the Rasta Peth synagogue....One Love...jammin...jammin...jammin in the name of the Lord...

On a more serious note...I find this fascinating.
3 posted on 10/05/2012 1:10:04 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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Me too... bookmark.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 1:29:33 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Cronos

Certainly gives credence to the story of St. Thomas ending up in India.


5 posted on 10/05/2012 2:07:59 AM PDT by Claud
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6 posted on 10/05/2012 4:13:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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7 posted on 10/05/2012 5:46:09 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Certainly gives credence to the story of St. Thomas ending up in India.

Where he was murdered...

8 posted on 10/05/2012 6:05:33 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: Cronos

very cool !


9 posted on 10/05/2012 6:06:17 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cronos; SunkenCiv

The article is dated “July 22, 2002 “ .. is that a typo?


10 posted on 10/05/2012 6:47:44 AM PDT by NYer
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No, it is not a typo.

The story is from 2002.

Identifiable Bene Israel number about 4000, and have paternal Y chromosome markers more characteristic of other Jewish populations, but maternal mitochondrial markers more similar to those found in the rest of India, according to some researchers.

There are also Bene Menashe and the ‘Lost Tribe of Ephraim’ in the Indian Subcontinent that claim Jewish descent.

Incidentally, the ‘Tribe of Ephraim’ in Pakistan/Afghanistan also claim to have the Ark of the Covenant.


11 posted on 10/05/2012 7:07:21 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Tainan

Rasta means road. Peth is village. So the village road :)


12 posted on 10/05/2012 7:21:53 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Claud
it's pretty definite that St. Thomas went to India. He and Bartholomew went east to Jewish communities in Persia, Yemen and India

And the trade route from the Red Sea to the west coast of India is ancient -- dating back 4000 to 5000 years

13 posted on 10/05/2012 7:23:08 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

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14 posted on 10/05/2012 7:54:40 AM PDT by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Well, at least there isn’t an discrimination in India now.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 8:25:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Claud

I seem to remember that there is a theory that during the ‘lost years’ of Jesus between boyhood and his ministry at 30+ years for which there is no record in the Gospels, he went to India.

Some have even found Bhuddist influences in his teaching.

The reason why Thomas went there could’ve been to re-kindle some contacts with the ancient Jewish community and take the word of Jesus to them.

Remember, the early Christian movement was still essentially a Jewish movement/sect until it got religio-jacked by Paul to make it palatable to the Gentile world.


16 posted on 10/05/2012 8:46:52 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.)
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To: Cronos

NOT looking forward to Gelfilte Fish Curry.


17 posted on 10/05/2012 9:32:29 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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“Remember, the early Christian movement was still essentially a Jewish movement/sect until it got religio-jacked by Paul to make it palatable to the Gentile world.”

religio-jacked? Oy, vey! Ever hear of the Great Commission? Jesus commanded his followers to spread his Gospel to the whole world.


18 posted on 10/05/2012 10:21:47 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Cronos

Yeah, I investigated it once and was pretty impressed with the antiquity and extent of the evidence in favor.

And you’re right...those trade routes were very old, and this DNA study only proves it.


19 posted on 10/05/2012 11:23:44 AM PDT by Claud
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To: wildbill

I don’t buy the idea that Paul hijacked Christianity.

If Paul was so out there, there were 12 other Apostles, 72 disciples, and who knows how many Christian communities who would have taken him to task. The fact that his letters were copied, preserved, and read by all the churches with no apparent controversy means that his teaching was universally accepted as authentic.

The writings of the folks who really hijacked Christianity, eg the Gnostics, were categorically dismissed and were not read in the churches.


20 posted on 10/05/2012 11:32:00 AM PDT by Claud
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