Posted on 02/05/2013 9:14:39 AM PST by marshmallow
The Oregon state attorney general's office is investigating a Christian baker who declined to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple.
Aaron Klein, owner of the Gresham, Ore. bakery Sweet Cakes by Melissa, told The Oregonian newspaper he chose not to make the cake because he believes marriage is “a religious institution between a man and woman as stated in the Bible.”
“When someone tells me that their definition is something different, I strongly disagree. I don’t think I should be penalized for that.”
His business, which he co-owns with his wife, could face as much as $50,000 in fines if found guilty of violating the Oregon Equality Act. The law forbids businesses from denying “full and equal accommodations” for customers on the basis of sexual orientation and other protected categories.
Same-sex “marriage” is not recognized in the state, though domestic partnerships are.
The woman who filed the complaint against the bakery said Klein said she and her partner were “abominations to the Lord” and that their money was not equal to others. Klein denied making those statements.
“I apologized for wasting their time and said we don’t do same-sex marriages,” he told the ABC television affiliate KATU. “I honestly did not mean to hurt anybody, didn’t mean to make anybody upset,” he said.
The couple had previously bought a wedding cake at the store several years before for one of the women’s mothers and her husband.
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This has happened before. Why didn’t they just say they were too busy? They must have known this would happen.
this all started in the 60s with civil tights crap based on race
And so many here and in the GOP take PRIDE in it.....no pun intended
Probably if he had them, but do you think a Muslim butcher would have pork chops to sell?
This is a tough desicion for me.
On the one hand, this baker is following their religious convictions. On the other hand, a lesbian couple wants to show their love for each other.
The tough decision is which flavor to order.
They know that their lawsuits will prevail. This is not only a “protected” class, but a privileged class. They have full power over normal people.
Excellent point, Cowboy Bob.
What about churches... I admit I'm not sure how church weddings and gay marriage work these days. In gay states like mine - The People's Republik of Connecticut - do gays have the right to force any or most churches to marry them in a "church wedding" ceremony? (I'm pretty sure Catholic churches, and probably Orthodox Jewish temples will refuse to marry all same-sex couples)
“If I go to a Muslim butcher and ask for pork chops, and he doesn’t sell them to me...can I sue?”
No, as I would assume neither a Halal butcher or Kosher butcher would have pork in their shops.
Therefore, no one could buy pork chops.
No discrimination would be taking place.
If people don’t think this is soon going to be happening to the church, they are sorely mistaken. It’s coming. We have to win these battles now to put a stop on their power-grab.
this all started in the 60s with civil tights crap based on race
And so many here and in the GOP take PRIDE in it.....no pun intended
If the Oregon statute is as explained in the article, the baker is going to lose his his case and be fined.
The guy should have said he doesn’t provides goods or service for religious celebrations that are against his own faith, but that he could refer them to a business partner that handles those occasions.
therefore they get to have their cake and munch it too, and he has “accommodated” them
The Oregon Constitution protects Religious “opinion”.
You’re right once again, friend.
They need to be careful about what they put on their website. Currently it states “!!!!!Remember we do cakes for any occasion!!!.”
And that text is not going to help their case.
I would have made it a Tuna Cake.
“The Oregon Constitution protects Religious “opinion”.”
Maybe the lawyer that the baker hires and pays $25,000.00 will be able to navigate that argument in a courtroom, but it will be tricky as the law and cited in the article is clear.
Secondly, the baker states on his website that he will make a cake for “any occasion.”
It is a tough case for the baker to make and it is going to cost him a lot of dough to make is case.
So Muslims can’t be foced to sell pork chops, but Christians can be forced to sell sodomy cakes?
You’re right in that this should be a clear case of the 1st Amendment right to free speech and association, but this is just another “unintended consequence” of Lyndon Johnson’s Civil Rights Act, which opened the door to exactly this kind of persecution.
Equating the gay rights movement with the civil rights movement is an insult.
Race is a characteristic that has no bearing on ones’ character, sexuality is a behavior that does drive behavior.
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