Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

US Will Have Unprecedented Voice In Electing New Pope
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/ ^ | February 12, 2013 | John Newland And Claudio Lavanga, NBC News

Posted on 02/12/2013 7:09:24 AM PST by Biggirl

When the next Papal Conclave meets behind closed doors to replace the retiring Pope Benedict XVI, the United States will have an unprecedented voice in the process. Eleven cardinal electors, almost 10 percent of the conclave, will be Americans -- the largest share the country has ever had, even though it has historically had a large Catholic population. The retiring pope gets credit for the greater influence of the U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnews.nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Prayer
KEYWORDS: catholic; pope; usa
Please God, guide the upcoming conclave of cardinals when they meet to elect a new Pope. Amen.
1 posted on 02/12/2013 7:09:30 AM PST by Biggirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Good Grief...When’s the last time we had a “Pope Gone Wild”. I wouldn’t worry too much about it.


2 posted on 02/12/2013 7:12:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau

It will be an interesting conclave to say the least.


3 posted on 02/12/2013 7:14:18 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Obama found some dirt on the Vatican and threatened to expose it. In exchange for guarantees of silence, the current pope will resign and the next pope will be the first black pope.


4 posted on 02/12/2013 7:31:14 AM PST by equaviator (What difference does it make?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

And pray as well they select a strong Pope; not a politically correct one.


5 posted on 02/12/2013 7:31:36 AM PST by Rich21IE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: equaviator

Please no conspiracy theory stuff okay. :)


6 posted on 02/12/2013 7:32:55 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Rich21IE

AMEN.


7 posted on 02/12/2013 7:33:48 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: equaviator

So, they underlying tenet of this is that the USA will be influential in electing the first “black pope?” Gee, we all know how well that worked out here in 2008....


8 posted on 02/12/2013 8:00:53 AM PST by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
While these cardinals are all from the US, they are not participating in the conclave to represent US values. Electing a Pope is not a patriotic duty.
9 posted on 02/12/2013 8:02:08 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

I am rc but god help us if american bishops have much say in this. Waay too many Marxists and pederasty-shielders. Some are awesome but you don’t get to here them much.


10 posted on 02/12/2013 8:08:18 AM PST by epluribus_2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: epluribus_2

As usual there isn’t really a good connection here between headline, story and reality.


11 posted on 02/12/2013 8:14:30 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: equaviator

Why don’t you post /sarc with posts like this?

It is so untrue.


12 posted on 02/12/2013 8:20:06 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Like good old pedophile protector Cardinal Mahony!

Retired nun ‘sad’ that Cardinal Mahony will vote on next pope
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/cardinal-mahony-pope-reaction.html


13 posted on 02/12/2013 8:42:07 AM PST by TSgt (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: epluribus_2
Thank you, Thank you!

Saves me from having to say it. The Americans are probably the most liberal of all. Although, Marxists are all over the world high in the church. For me, it's always worrysome to change Pope's. Until I see the pick, I worry that this will be the change agent we have dreaded. A little pressure from Kerry, Biden, Pelosi, and Kennedy's, and bada bing bada boom, abortion isn't quite as bad as we thought and sodomizing children is just loving them in a special way. Oh, and how about those new women priests?

14 posted on 02/12/2013 8:59:07 AM PST by chuckles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: equaviator

Our Emperor will feel like he’s back home in Chicago.


15 posted on 02/12/2013 9:00:27 AM PST by Vaduz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

It will be this Person's decision that matters in the end.

16 posted on 02/12/2013 9:10:45 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Slyfox

He gets the final word in.


17 posted on 02/12/2013 10:22:56 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
Please no conspiracy theory stuff okay

Please tell that to the 17 families who rule the world (according to my best pal.)

18 posted on 02/12/2013 10:26:28 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

I’ll guarantee you that US policy will have NO influence other than the rejection of most of US policy from the next Pope.

I personally think the next pope is going to be Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco from Genoa since he is very much like Pope Benedict XVI


19 posted on 02/12/2013 10:43:00 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stfassisi

Since Latin America has about 43% of the world’s catholics, does that mean they have 43% of the cardinals? (I’m not Roman Catholic, so I don’t know.)

If so, could they team with the 10+% of North Americans (Canada?) to control the selection?

Finally, is there a truly conservative cardinal anywhere in the Americas?


20 posted on 02/12/2013 10:56:36 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: xzins

Pretty sure European countries have the most with Italy having more that any other European countries

Here is the list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_living_cardinals

“”Finally, is there a truly conservative cardinal anywhere in the Americas?””

I would rather say strong Traditional Catholic since conservatism can even be considered a form of liberalism to the Traditional catholic

And yes, there are strong Traditional Cardinals in the America’s. Cardinal Edwin Frederick O’Brien comes to mind,but there are others


21 posted on 02/12/2013 11:22:07 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: xzins

xzins:

Cardinal Burke is very traditional, but he was moved to Rome and is the Chief Canon Lawyer. Cardinals Dolan, George, and DiNardo are solid as is Cardinal O’Brian who was the Archbishop of the U.S. Military Diocese and I would put him more in line with Cardinal Burke. I would think all of these Cardinals would favor somone more in tuned with Pope Benedict.

Cardinal O’Malley is ok, Mahoney, I have never been a fan of. Rigali is no progressive type either, not a traditionalist in terms of Liturgy, etc, but no progressive.

In the end I think all the Americans would follow the Group I cited above ad those guys are the ones who will influence American votes. From what I gathered, in the end it seems that all of the U.S. Cardinals eventually backed Cardinal Ratzinger, some on the 1st ballot, some 2nd, all by the 4th.


22 posted on 02/12/2013 11:48:35 AM PST by CTrent1564
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
No. The Holy Spirit will choose the next pope. Funny, the media couldn't see Karol Józef Wojtyła or Joseph Ratzinger. I just have to wonder at those who not only hate the church, but have as much understanding of the Magisterium as earthworms do of the internal combustion engine, attempting to discern its leaders or its dogma.
23 posted on 02/12/2013 1:29:54 PM PST by OpusatFR
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CTrent1564; xzins

“”Cardinal Burke is very traditional, but he was moved to Rome and is the Chief Canon Lawyer. Cardinals Dolan, George, and DiNardo are solid as is Cardinal O’Brian who was the Archbishop of the U.S. Military Diocese and I would put him more in line with Cardinal Burke. I would think all of these Cardinals would favor somone more in tuned with Pope Benedict.””

I agree with what you just wrote, there is no doubt that Benedict XVI has appointed some strong Cardinals.

Just last week Cardinal Burke came out with this..

Cardinal Burke: No Communion for Irish Politicians who Support Abortion

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/cardinal-burke-no-communion-for-irish-politicians-who-support-abortion/#ixzz2KjC1BDyM


24 posted on 02/12/2013 3:00:03 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: stfassisi
just ran a quick cross-tab and yes, Italy has 29 Cardinals out of 119, but the next highest is the USA with 11, followed by Germany in 3rd with 6 and Brazil,India and Spain in joint 4th with 5

europe has the largest number at 63 followed by NA with 18

25 posted on 02/13/2013 4:24:58 AM PST by Cronos
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
US Will Have Unprecedented Voice In Electing New Pope
Pope Benedict’s Resignation and St. Corbinian’s Bear
Pope Benedict XVI’s Musical Legacy
Benedict announces resignation and lightning strikes
DHS's curiosity piqued over Pope Benedict XVI's retirement and Catholic Prophecy
Prayers for Pope Benedict XVI
Pope Benedict's Devotion to Saint Celestine Signaled His Resignation from the Papacy
Cardinal Sodano to Pope Benedict: “We have heard you with a sense of loss and almost disbelief”
Pope's resignation invokes sadness, gratitude from US bishops

Pope cites waning strength as reason for resignation
Report: Brother Says Pope Was Considering Resignation for Months
Some Notes About the Upcoming Conclave
An Evangelical Looks at Pope Benedict XVI
Pope Benedict’s Resignation in Historical Context
Virtually unprecedented: papal resignation throughout history
Pope Benedict XVI:a papal timeline
"I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome" [Full Text]
Pope Benedict's Address on Resignation of the See of Rome
POPE BENEDICT XVI WILL RESIGN AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, VATICAN PRESS OFFICE TELLS FOX NEWS

26 posted on 02/14/2013 6:55:33 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson