Posted on 03/12/2013 9:27:52 AM PDT by Colofornian
Welll, here's the Bible's description of the "riot" in Athens.
Acts 17: 32 When they heard about the resurrection of the dead, some of them sneered, but others said, “We want to hear you again on this subject.” 33 At that, Paul left the Council. 34 Some of the people became followers of Paul and believed. Among them was Dionysius, a member of the Areopagus, also a woman named Damaris, and a number of others.
According to the Bible, Paul caused a number of riots, notably in Ephesus and Jerusalem. But not in Athens.
There's no such thing as evil.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
We get this; but WHY?
Right!
To get back home someday and deliver that package!
are we rushing to the number ???
:)
That is a powerfully clarifying insight.
Never understood that one, as I have absolutely no desire to be God, or even a god. Don't understand those who do have this desire.
For those who think I'm a Mormon apologist, that's far from the case. I've had a number of rather HWrws discussions with Mormons who are heavily into the "Mormon persecution" meme, which is a distortion of history IMO.
The real truth is that 19th century Mormons had a disastrous habit of starting and losing wars, then claiming religious persecution. 19th century western America had quite a large number of weird religious groups running around. For some obscure reason the Mormons were the only ones consistently involved in religious persecution.
One Mormon I had an extended discussion with claimed hundreds or thousands of Mormon deaths in the Missouri mob attacks. Tried for weeks to get him to document these claims. Actual numbers are probably well under 100, probably about half that.
Which means Mormons killed more in the single Mountain Meadows atrocity, the greatest atrocity committed in peacetime by American whites on American whites in our entire history, than Mormons were killed by the mobs.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
To make your collection of 19th century religious rhetoric somewhat more comprehensive, you might want to look up how some 19th century American Protestants and Catholics talked about each other, not to mention what they had to say about Mormons.
If you go back a little farther 16th and 17th century “Christians” of various flavors reached a peak of denunciatory fervor that may never be reached again. Luther was a champ in this area.
Okay. Was using “you” in the somewhat less than fully grammatical sense of “one,” which always seems a little awkward to me.
But if I’ve given offense, it was unintentional.
HWrws = heated.
No idea where that came from.
Paul preached and people rioted.........bottom line.
Your “lets all get along to get along” falls flat...bottom line.
Apparently.....that is true.
Fortunately, Jesus The Christ took the big one for us, so no need to worry.
And yet, you defend mormonism.....weird at its face.
My favorite proof of this is the undoubted fact that saying a woman is "not unattractive" is not equivalent to saying she is attractive.
In many contexts in the natural use of English, just as in intuitionistic logic, NOT(NOT P) is weaker than P.
“That is the problem. I am coming from a completely different metaphysics and epistemology than a Christian would have to hold to hold the beliefs he or she holds.”
It doesn’t take metaphysical, epistemological, blahblahizicalmological anything to understand your own nature. Even Nietzsche understood the blackness of despair, and his own inability to live up to his own philosophy. His philosophy was aimed not at those who were there now existing, but of a Overcomer who would come later, in another time. Ironically, the only people who will be able to live up to those standards is the Christian in his Resurrection body.
If you say that you yourself are not corrupt, then give me your code of moral conduct. Give me its dictates, what defines good behavior. How do you handle lust? How do you handle lies? How do you handle any of the problems you yourself face or think you face. And then tell me, after all of that, if you even keep your own standards. Or if, like a blind man, you are always grasping for them and failing to truly live up to them at all times.
No; the attrition rate of MORMON apologists available to post these days insures that the thread will fizzle long before then...
Speaking of distortion...
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