Skip to comments.HABEMUS PAPAM!!! (Live Thread)
Posted on 03/13/2013 11:12:01 AM PDT by NYer
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(bad Latin — who is it?????)
Just want to get this started .. bells tolling, white smoke pluming heavenward and massive crowds in the square. Your reaction ...
Won’t know for about 45 minutes.
This is much sooner than I’d expected. But then, what do I know?
Wow, this epochipal.
If he is young, this could be a generation-changer!
“Quo Vadis?” means “Where are you going?”
Those are the words spoken by Jesus to Pope St. Peter as he was fleeing the persecution in Rome. Peter turned and went back to Rome, obediently, to his crucifixion and death.
>>This is much sooner than Id expected. But then, what do I know?<<
Assuming they used logic, then if I was choosing I would make a list of the things we need from the Pope (and “reaching across the aisle” would be low on the list).
The Church needs to reestablish Her roots and standards: dare I say to pre-V II standards?
Or is this the dreaded V III???
“Quis est” is “Who is it?”
>>Quo Vadis? means Where are you going?<<
Hey, I got excited and used the only Latin I had handy that included a verb and a noun...
“Quien Es” seemed so pedestrian...
Qual es Papa?
Probably one of the front runners. Listen to the Latin name for a quick clue of who it will be.
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- The first clue to the identity of the new pope will be the announcement of his first name -- in Latin, in the accusative case.
If he is not the one chosen, French Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, the top-ranked cardinal-deacon, will say, in Latin, "I announce to you a great joy. We have a pope: His most Eminent and Reverend Lordship, Lord ..." followed by the Latin version of the chosen cardinal's first name.
If Cardinal Tauran says, "Lord Odilonem" everyone would know the new pope was Brazilian Cardinal Odilo Scherer of Sao Paulo. They would not have to wait for Cardinal Tauran to announce the new pope's last name.
But if he says "Lord Angelum," it would not necessarily mean the new pope was the media-touted Italian Cardinal Angelo Scola of Milan; there are three other Italian cardinals also named Angelo.
If the cardinal says "Ioannem," things would be much more complicated. Fifteen cardinals' names begin Juan, Jean or Giovanni, the equivalent of John.
Five cardinals' first names are variations of Iosephum (Joseph), five are named Franciscum (Francis) and five have names beginning Antonium (Anthony).
Only two are named after the apostle Peter, Petrum, and three after the apostle Paul, Paulum.
The 115 cardinals who will enter the Sistine Chapel for the conclave include four named Georgium or George and three who would be called Carolum, like Blessed John Paul II, the former Karol Wojtyla.
There are limits to translation possibilities: Lithuanian Cardinal Audrys Juozas Backis of Vilnius would be called Audrys and Maronite Patriarch Bechara Rai would be either Bachara or Becharam.
When the Vatican's Office of Latin Letters is called upon to write a letter in Latin to one of the cardinals, the "Acta Apostolicae Sedis," the book of official acts of the Holy See, is the go-to place for which version of their name to use. The volumes for 1909 through the end of 2012 are online on the Vatican website.
Apparently, though, it is not always that easy. Indian Cardinal Baselios Cleemis Isaac Thottunkal, major archbishop of the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, has been referred to both as Basilium Clementem and Isaac.
It also is possible that Cardinal Tauran will not use the accusative case when he announces the name. He could say, "Marcus" instead of "Marcum" if the cardinals choose Canadian Cardinal Marc Ouellet, who has been prefect of the Congregation for Bishops.
Praise be to God!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope that God’s finger was tipping the scales in the right direction. He gives us a great deal of leeway to make mistakes, but this is a critical time for the western world. I prayed that He would take a hand in this critical choice (and I’m not even a Roman Catholic).
Yeah, Yeah and Yeah!!!!!!!!!
EWTN live stream in English
I just hope and pray he’s a traditionalist Pope, whoever he is and wherever he’s from.
See post #14.
That was the Beatles, not the Cardinals!
That was pretty quick. I just heard on the news the average conclave lasts 3 days.
My husband just called to let me know!
I just hope it’s not that the seagull fell down the chimney!
Are you saying that the Archbishop of Buenos Aires was elected?
That means “Where are you going?”
Fingers crossed for Marc Ouellet (aka Pope John Mark I)
I admit I’m blinded by Canadian pride.
One of the EWTN crew spoke with some of the cardinal secretaries earlier today. Hoping to gain some insight into how long the cardinal expected the conclave to last, he asked about the luggage brought by their respective cardinal. The responses ranged from an "overnight bag" to "10 pieces of luggage". Guess the "overnight bag" cardinal got it right ; - )
I'm with you; I hope the Holy Spirit was, too. :)
There must be a clue in 3/13/2013?
Great movie! Peter Nero was more Nero than Nero.
Just PRAY its not Peter the Roman.
How is that last name pronounced?
Wow ... here come the Swiss Guard and the Vatican Marching Band !
Just a wild guess
Somebody call Wikileaks and find out who it is.
LOVE the Swiss Guard. They even look good in rain gear. LOL!
Live stream from CSPAN.
So having had two Pope John Pauls, no chance for a Pope George Ringo?
Band getting ready to play the anthem.
Swiss Guard readying.
Pope Peter, in honor of Pete Best?
I read that money is on an American or a fellow from Africa (sorry I do not remember the country name).
NYer, is there someone you are hoping for?
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