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Beyond Today - How Christian is Easter?
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Posted on 03/22/2013 10:51:40 AM PDT by DouglasKC

Easter customs mix pagan myths, rituals, symbols and practices with just a little truth. What's wrong with this picture?

Link to YouTube video:

How Christian is Easter?


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: christ; easter; holydays
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To: Responsibility2nd

Paul was not speaking about “easter.” it took two centuries after Paul’s time for the easter abomination to defile Christian worship.

In verses 20-23 he was speaking of the false Torah of the Pharisees, which laid nonsensical restrictions on peoples behavior that were unscriptural. the spirit of that false oral torah later became the “catholic church.”


41 posted on 03/22/2013 11:43:03 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: I want the USA back
All the Christian celebrations mix pagan customs and Christian symbols. Santa and Rudolph. Bunnies and colored eggs. More fun for kids

The video addresses this point...although the conclusion isn't that it's fun for kids...

42 posted on 03/22/2013 11:43:48 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Wiccans and many other ancient cultures”

You think Wiccans are an ancient culture?


43 posted on 03/22/2013 11:43:49 AM PDT by Hilda
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To: BipolarBob

At least you have the guts to say it plain.

Appreciate it.


44 posted on 03/22/2013 11:44:34 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: editor-surveyor

Easter is an abomination?


45 posted on 03/22/2013 11:46:44 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan; BipolarBob
At least you have the guts to say it plain. Appreciate it.

Hey I resent that! I have guts!

46 posted on 03/22/2013 11:46:48 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: editor-surveyor

“Paul was not speaking about “easter.” it took two centuries after Paul’s time for the easter “

Actually, one of the earliest controversy in the church was whether to commemorate it on Passover or on the Sunday following. That was mid-second-century. Polycarp - a 1st century bishop of Smyrna and disciple of the Apostle John - commemorated it on passover. Reference:

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.x.xxv.html


47 posted on 03/22/2013 11:48:17 AM PDT by Hilda
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To: fella

>> “I’ve always found it interesting that from sunset Friday to sunrise Sunday is 3 nights and 3 days.” <<

By pagan calendar days, Yeshua was crucified on Wedneaday afternoon, at the same time that the lambs were being slaughtered for the passover that was to begin at sunset that day. It was a perfect three days and nights, just as the scriptures required.


48 posted on 03/22/2013 11:48:17 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I beleive Paul was teaching tolerance of those involved in “religious holy days” like New Moon celebrations.

Just as today we should be tolerant of those who observe Good Friday and Easter as “religious holy days”.


49 posted on 03/22/2013 11:51:11 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DouglasKC; All

I should have kept my mouth shut. I’ll be careful that the door doesn’t hit me on the way out.


50 posted on 03/22/2013 11:51:36 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Thane_Banquo; Amendment10

>> “Easter eggs are a Christian tradition derived from people not eating eggs during Lent.” <<

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Lent is not a Christian celebration; it is the remembrance of the 40 years of Tammuz’ life before he was executed by Shem. Christians do not practice Lent.


51 posted on 03/22/2013 11:52:32 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Hilda
Actually, one of the earliest controversy in the church was whether to commemorate it on Passover or on the Sunday following. That was mid-second-century. Polycarp - a 1st century bishop of Smyrna and disciple of the Apostle John - commemorated it on passover. Reference:

Yeah but Passover got bastardized. Bibilically it occurs on Nisan 14 and was observed by early Christians (and many today) as a memorial of the Lord's atoning death on the cross. This biblical view changed to a traditional view where Passover or Easter became more about his resurrection than his death:

1Co 11:23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread;
1Co 11:24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, "Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me."
1Co 11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."
1Co 11:26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes

This night was Passover, an annual holy day commanded by Christ and kept by Christ. It was the last holy day that Christ observed while in the flesh.

52 posted on 03/22/2013 11:54:04 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Responsibility2nd

>> “Where in the Bible is it commanded we celebrate Easter?” <<

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It clearly is not.

Passover is the Biblical celebration of Yeshua’s crucifixion, and First Fruits of his resurrection.


53 posted on 03/22/2013 11:56:15 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DouglasKC
One could say the same type of things about Christmas. The decorated tree and the yule log were both ancient Druid customs. Then there was this thing about shepherds abiding in their fields which probably meant Jesus Christ was born in the early spring, or later.

But I prefer to contemplate the true meaning of the day just as I do with Easter. Maybe I'll even make an exception and darken the doorway of a church, despite my very mixed feelings about organized religion.

54 posted on 03/22/2013 12:00:45 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: pgyanke; fella

>> “Read it again. He said He would rise on the third day... not after three days were over.” <<

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WRONG!

He said that it would be as with the prophet Jonah who was three days and three nights in the belly of the fish.


55 posted on 03/22/2013 12:01:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Responsibility2nd; editor-surveyor
I beleive Paul was teaching tolerance of those involved in “religious holy days” like New Moon celebrations.

In Colossians it's more than likely that there were some that were attempting to tell early Christians HOW to observe the holy days of the Lord. All sorts of Jewish traditions had been built up over the holy days and some were elevating these traditions.

Reading Colossians 2 makes it clear that a number of man made, man based ideas philosophies and traditions were being elevated and forced on those who were observing the Lord's holy days.

56 posted on 03/22/2013 12:04:38 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Vigilanteman
One could say the same type of things about Christmas. The decorated tree and the yule log were both ancient Druid customs. Then there was this thing about shepherds abiding in their fields which probably meant Jesus Christ was born in the early spring, or later.

Yup.

But I prefer to contemplate the true meaning of the day just as I do with Easter. Maybe I'll even make an exception and darken the doorway of a church, despite my very mixed feelings about organized religion.

Watch the video...

57 posted on 03/22/2013 12:05:59 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: knarf

The original tradition of first fruits definitely began hours before sunrise.


58 posted on 03/22/2013 12:06:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DouglasKC; All

I’m starting to get a real bad feeling about Christmas now. Was Claus the first “saint” to shinny down chimneys? Did any Apostles have a sleigh with eight reindeer? It’s almost like we’re going to have to go back and read the Bible to see what the Truth is and what bunk has been foisted upon us. Forget the traditions of men(Church included). The Word of God is the only moral compass that has been shown reliable.


59 posted on 03/22/2013 12:07:49 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: DouglasKC
There are no such days created by the Lord nor found in his scriptures...

You are ignorant. Israel celebrated the first Passover just prior to their Exodus from Egypt. In the desert, they were commanded to keep the Passover celebration every year in remembrance of God's salvation from slavery. This celebration was to continue in perpetuity.

The Talmud tells us that in the time of the Messiah all sacrifices would end... except for one; the offering of praise and thanksgiving. Ironically (and totally a coincidence I'm sure!) this was the bread and cup offering of Christ at the Last Supper... in praise and thanksgiving for our new Exodus across the waters of Baptism from slavery in sin to rebirth in the Family of God. He commanded us to continue this celebration in remembrance of Him.

The Church keeps this celebration at every Mass and delves deeper into the mystery annually in the feast days of the Easter season.

60 posted on 03/22/2013 12:08:24 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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